Any way to tell how close foster cat is to giving birth?

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I foster cats for a rescue and currently have an expecting momma. She is a young little tortie girl, estimated to be around 6-8 months old. She weighed in at only a little over 4 lbs when we pulled her 2 weeks ago. Usually the shelter we pull from (a high kill shelter) spays pregnant cats before we even know they are there and pregnant, but this little one was sick and was not spayed before being released to us. Then we realized she was pregnant. She is now healthy and over her URI and conjunctivitis, thankfully.

I have had dozens of orphan bottle babies, lots of moms with litters, and cats of all ages fostered in my home over the last few years but never had a cat give birth here. We are actually hoping to get her moved to another foster before she gives birth but are not sure if that is possible unless a foster comes available very soon (I usually foster sick cats for the week or two it takes to get them over a URI and since she is residing in my foster room, I wouldn't be able to pull any more until her and babies were adopted out, and that would be 8-9 weeks after giving birth, so that isn't ideal as far as saving as many as possible from the shelter is concerned- but she will stay here if another foster can't be found.)

So my question is basically if anyone has any idea how far along she is.
We have had her slightly over 2 weeks. Her belly has doubled in size and she has put on several pounds, but part of that is because she was underweight when pulled from the shelter.
I noticed about 6 days ago when feeling her belly that her milk was starting to come in. It is now even more pronounced.
As of yesterday all the hair around her nipples has fallen out.
I can't tell if she is nesting per say because she is a bit reclusive as it is, and has many little hiding spots in beds and carriers I have provided for her in her room. She is a very affectionate cat though and loves attention and petting when I am in the room, but refuses to leave the room for anything, even if I leave the door open. If I carry her out, she freaks and runs back in, this has been going on since she arrived.

Any ideas as to an estimate would be appreciated! I know nobody can know for sure, but I'd love to hear some thoughts :)
 

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It sounds to me like she is quite close to giving birth, from the description you give, but they can fool you.  The fact that she is very attached to her one room is also a sign that she has claimed that as her space.  Instead of seeing her as using up your foster room, you might find her to be a blessing in disguise if you keep her for awhile, because many nursing moms will help you out with those orphan bottle babies that come in and you can save more lives that way.  We usually keep using one or two mama cats that are happy to care for all babies as wet nurses through the entire kitten season, and then we spay them and find them great homes -- sometimes with their foster families who have fallen in love with them because they are such great mommies.  If you scroll up to the brown bar at the top of this page, you will see a link to ARTICLES where you can find lots of good information about how to prepare for the birth of kittens.  Good luck, and keep us posted if she stays with you for the birth.
 
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Thanks for the info! I am not taking on bottle babies this year, just focusing on sick adult cats because I had a litter with Panleuk last year and wanted to do a 1 year wait before bringing in unvaccinated kittens. For this momma, she is in a room that I did not use last year, an unfinished bedroom that was used for storage, so never had sick kittens in the room. And I know kittens will have some immunity die to mom being vaccinated and healthy. Our rescue currently has probably around 25 nursing or pregnant moms spread over dozens of foster homes so we have tons of moms for orphans if needed, but usually we keep the orphans separate if they are a few weeks old and can be bottle fed due to health and disease issues, and not wanting to transfer anything from a single kitten to a whole litter of healthy kittens. The shelter we pull from has a lot of sick cats and kittens and things like Panleuk, calici, ringworm, and many URI/conjunctivitis issues are very common, as are FeLV pos cats and FIV (which we do pull and work with, FeLV go to an amazing local sanctuary.)

Hopefully I will be able to move this little momma before she gives birth, but as the shelter continues to refill with nursing moms and litters every day after we pull and place as many as we can, it is looking less and less possible.

I can post some pics of little momma later today, she is such a tiny little mom to be, and so adorable.
 

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I do agree about the dangers of bringing baby kittens from a public shelter and putting them with a clean mom.  Our wet nurses are themselves tested for leukemia and aids before their kittens are born.  Also, we have a great network going here between the rescues and the animal control personnel so if orphan kittens are brought to them, they do NOT put them in the regular population but send them off to "day care" while they try to contact a rescue group to take them.  The older babies do well with just bottle feeding but the newborns are best if put on a mama cat, and as a foster myself (no kittens this year), I know that even if the foster mama cat isn't producing milk, having her to clean the babies and keep them warm.
 
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I do agree about the dangers of bringing baby kittens from a public shelter and putting them with a clean mom.  Our wet nurses are themselves tested for leukemia and aids before their kittens are born.  Also, we have a great network going here between the rescues and the animal control personnel so if orphan kittens are brought to them, they do NOT put them in the regular population but send them off to "day care" while they try to contact a rescue group to take them.  The older babies do well with just bottle feeding but the newborns are best if put on a mama cat, and as a foster myself (no kittens this year), I know that even if the foster mama cat isn't producing milk, having her to clean the babies and keep them warm.
I SO wish that our local shelter could keep babies, young kittens, and moms with litters separated, but they are getting in around 2-6 moms with litters and usually around a dozen kittens under a pound and a dozen+ between 1-2lbs a day. Some days are worse. Everyone goes into the same room. Sometimes the smallest of babies get put in a separate room- but that room often has sick cats or other random cats in it- so not very helpful!
 
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Well, my little momma gave birth a few hours ago. 2 kittens so far. 1 is too small (79 grams) and the other is 107 grams. The little one is missing some fur. Momma is doing fine, kittens are fine, I wasn't expecting her to give birth yet! Not sure if she has more to deliver, just watching her closely.
 
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They are all doing great! I wasn't expecting them to be born so soon, so I had her in a room with a few other cats, one of which was spayed before we pulled her, and she was very pregnant when spayed. Kittens were aborted. Well, she thinks these are her kittens. At first I tried to separate them, but then realized she was helping the little momma. So after talking it over with others, we are keeping all 4 together. Momma is super young and tiny herself, so any help she can get.....

Momma is the tortie, and her helper is the black & white cat.

 

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Don't be surprised if the spay is producing milk in a few days!  I posted this story on another thread awhile back but it applies here so I'm copying it in:

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I think it's wonderful that you are letting the spayed female share in raising these babies.
 

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Sweetest photos!when I tried this or have tried to give mom an adopted baby I doesn't work out with the moms fighting.and the mom didn't want to adopt in the past.im currently waiting for kittens anytime now
 

icey bolt

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What does it mean to puraise exactly?is it a "like" button type thing?
 
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oleander

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I'm worried about the smaller kitten, the buff colored one. It has one dark ear that has been getting steadily darker. Maybe this is just his coloring? But it just looks off. Other than being darker, nothing else is different between the two ears. Any ideas? It almost looks like he is going to have points.. But only one ear??


 
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