My siamese cat attacked me after protecting our little dog from another dog that came in the yard..

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Hi,

I have a two year old female siamese cat Blue (seal point), she lives in the house, but she follows me in my studio outside the house or if I am doing something in the yard she is always by my side. She loves being around people but has no tolerance of other cats in general, and hasn't been mating even when she had periods.

She has been hissing on the neighbour's dog and sometimes follow it hissing at it till it went away.

Two weeks ago I brought a little puppy, and as soon as she saw Charley her motherly instinct mode was on!

At first it was very sweet, she would lick the puppy till it falls asleep and she would look after it and call it wherever she was going.. she would get upset if she is sleeping in the bedroom and the puppy starts crying in the middle of the night and the door is closed. 

A week ago some very large dogs went pass my house and surprisingly in the second she saw them she immediately went after them screaming and chasing them trough the neighbourhood. I was shocked because of the size of the dogs and wasn't expecting her to go after them like that, but luckily they didn't fight back, actually they were terrified.

Yesterday a big dog came in the yard and she attacked it very aggressively, this dog didn't run away, but lied down covered it's head and cried as she scratched and bit it's back :( 

I ran towards them and started yelling, then she jumped  scratching and biting my leg, I pushed her and started running across the yard realizing she is behind me chasing me!!! It was just horrible! When I got in my room within seconds she was just outside the door scratching and meowing to get in. I instantly cleaned the leg (she cut and bit me real deep), the wounds dried fast and no sign of infection. I am getting a Tetanus vaccine tomorrow morning. 

Of course I let the cat inside... she is acting normal, no trace of aggression.

I'm wandering is this overprotective behaivour usual?

I read somewhere that in a case of a cat fight you should intervene with water..

Natasha
 

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It's redirected aggression and is common in both cats and dogs.  I take it your kitty isn't spayed.  Spaying will calm down a lot of this behavior and would be better for her health wise.  Repeated dry cycles, being in heat without mating, puts a kitty at risk of a life threatening illness called pyometra.
 
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Denice thanks a lot,

she wasn't like this before we had a little puppy two weeks ago, so I'm sure she was trying to protect him. 

I agree with you about spaying, she has been temporarily sterilized with pills before.

But here is the thing, my best friend also has a siamese male 8 years old, and she loves him too much so she wants to have his young kitten who will carry his genes, it's very important for her.

And I have read that it's healthier for the cat to get pregnant at least once before spaying. 

I don't want to take that experience from her. 
 

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There is no truth that letting a cat have a litter of kittens has any health benefits. Mating is very painful for the female and being pregnant/delivering kittens does not come with health risk.

Our rescue currently has 4 orphaned kittens that we took in because the mother cat died after developing a severe infection from a kitten that died in the birth canal.

Like Denice mentioned, pyometria is also a very real risk as is mammary cancer. Your friend's cat is also at risk of developing testicular cancer.

If you do decide to mate your cat, I would do it sooner rather than later as the longer she is in heat, the more likely she is to develop these serious health problems.

Also, are you prepared for the cost of having kittens and are you able to find homes for them (and if homes are not found for all of them, are you prepared to keep them?)
 
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Of course I am aware of every risk you mentioned and more, but she's not in heat right now, and the problem I have with her redirected aggression lasts for these past two weeks only, so I don't understand how you connect her strange behavior with heat behavior. I noticed that she is acting motherly with the puppy and has become overprotective, are you saying it's hormonal and only spaying could stop it?
 

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@blue

Every time someone adopts a kitten from an intentional breeding situation it means one less kitten gets adopted from a shelter, and if you could just see the faces of shelter kittens needing homes...  New York City (my home) euthanizes around 8000 cats a year all due to cats that breed.  Millions annually around the country.

We made a "deal" with cats when we domesticated them.  We will provide you with an endless food source (either by giving it to you or by your proximity to humans) and the result is massive over breeding on an apocalyptic  scale hard to imagine.  We repay this over breeding by destroying you by the millions and its all because of us.  The cats are guilty of nothing.  One more kitten born, another one euthanized.

She doesn't need to breed, and the species doesn't need it either.

So my thought is this, join the international pro-spay/neuter movement! Be proud that you don't let her reproduce!

Look at this great website on spay/neuter:

http://www.paws.org/why-spay-neuter.html
 
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She has obviously adopted the puppy and is protecting him just as she would protect a litter of kittens.  I doubt that spaying her now would have an immediate effect on her, but over time it might, as the puppy grows older.  Right now,she is his protective mama, and if there are no perceived threats around the puppy, she will probably be fine, but be careful about other animals or strangers coming around the puppy.  One of my worst cat bites ever came from a situation just like this where the mother cat bit me in the calf while trying to get at another cat who had slipped into her room where her kittens were.  Cat scratches may heal naturally, but in my experience, cat bites always infect.  This one was no exception, and the next day I had to go to a "doc in the box" to get antibiotics since my own doctor was out of town until Monday.  Had I let it go another 48 hours, I might have ended up in the hospital (which recently happened to a friend of mine.) I would suggest that you see a doctor right away and get put on antibiotics for about a week to prevent the bite wound from infecting.  It's much easier to treat if you do it before the infection sets in.
 
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@StephenQ  

This cat wasn't bought, I am volunteer at two animal activist organizations in Macedonia, as small as the country is that's a lot of experience. I can't even remember how many animals I have helped for my whole life. And we don't have overpopulation of cats, I can't tell you how many times before Blue I failed adopting a kitten because they were all given in a second.. 

It's interesting how people intrude with this problem in every post, maybe before they get to read it. 

Thank you but his is really not the issue here. 
 
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@Red Top Rescue  

I think Tetanus vaccine should be enough prevention. It should be taken within 48 hours. 

Thanks a lot 
 

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@Blue, I'm sure StephenQ didn't notice that you live in Macedonia or realize that the situation over there is the way we WISH it were here in the U.S., where every kitten is wanted and has a home waiting even before it is weaned.  That would be heaven for us!  Please understand that in America we do have a serious problem, having way more kittens and cats than there are homes for them, so when we take a strong stand against breeding, it's because our hearts are heavy with the sadness of this country's situation, and we are speaking from our reality, not yours.  I wish we could send you lots and lots of happy healthy kittens in Macedonia.  Thanks for the good work you do over there!
 

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@StephenQ  

This cat wasn't bought, I am volunteer at two animal activist organizations in Macedonia, as small as the country is that's a lot of experience. I can't even remember how many animals I have helped for my whole life. And we don't have overpopulation of cats, I can't tell you how many times before Blue I failed adopting a kitten because they were all given in a second.. 

It's interesting how people intrude with this problem in every post, maybe before they get to read it. 

Thank you but his is really not the issue here. 
I'm sorry I must have misinterpreted.  Guilty of reading too quickly!  Thank you for all that you do!
 
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@Red Top Rescue  

How I wish the for same.. I used to watch animal planet rescue and cry every episode. 

I wish for the situation for the dogs to be like for the cats here, maybe you noticed in my post, we do have a lot of stray dogs, it's out of control really :(

about the Tetanus vaccine, it should be prevention for other bacteria infections also, that's what they told me at least. 

Have to wait till morning :/ 
 

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@blue  , I can tell you what happened and why your cat attacked, you, it also happened to my husband AND his son.

I can also tell you that while scratches cause pain ans discomfort, and sometimes (like with me) cause Cat Scratch Disease, and need antibiotics, cat bites, unless it is quite superficial and didn't bleed much at all, you can count on it getting infected, bad infection.

My husband and son raised this Siamese cat from babyhood, and spoiled rotten to boot.

Since moving in to my house when we got married, he picks fights with a few other local cats, like he's some kind of bully, or maybe feels intimidated, I don't know but I don't like it one bit.

So within 5 weeks of each other, starting with my husband, when seeing he was getting into it with the next door neighbor's cat he went after his cat and picked him up, well Smokey chomped down on his arm. By the next morning it was huge, his hand looked like a baseball mitt.

It took lots of antibiotics and draining, and about 7 weeks to heal up, and now he has this thin spot on his arm where the meat is gone from it. 

That very same thing happened when his son got out of the army for Christmas and saw Smokey doing the same thing, and before we could tell him NOT to grab the cat, he did, sure enough the same exact thing happened.

It was so bad even though he was at the hospital getting antibiotic fluids for 4 hours, he couldn't pass his army physical test and had to wait and retake it to move on. It took so long to heal.

So there must be something in the fight mode they are in, and interfering this mode, that causes them to bite at anyone who tries to stop it or get in the middle of it.

You would never expect him to do this, ever. He's such a mellow guy otherwise.
 
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