My neighbor and my cats

rosered · Apr 17, 2014

I live in California and my neighbor has already killed all 3 of my cats and this horrible feeling

against him is ruining my life and i am considering relocating. He is a mean and cruel old man and trys to rule

the whole neighborhood. 2 of our cats we had for over 5 years and were a part of our family. he got rid of them

last christmas and i swear it still feels like yesterday. and our last one, his name is Shadow, he has finally managed

to poison him and has been missin for 3 days. My hands are tied. one of the worst feelings in the world is knowin

you have been vilolated and not bein able to do anything at all about it.

di and bob · Apr 17, 2014

OMG! If you can prove that I would think you can call the sheriff or the police, they are still your 'property" (I'm just saying that , we all know different!) and he destroyed something you owned. I know they'll probably say that the cats shouldn't have been on his property. My neighbor's dog where I used to live killed my cat and the law told me to shoot it if it came on my property. I dreamt about that! After mauling other animals and biting at joggers and kids, I finally heard a 'BOOM' in the middle of the night and saw him no more. Someone got him! Since it was outside city limits, the dog catcher refused to come out and told me to bring the dog in!! (?) Yeah, right, like I'm going to grab a vicious dog and put him in my car!

My heart goes out to you, I do know how you feel, and how revenge would be so sweet. I hate that helpless feeling. Karma hasn't caught up with him yet. A person that can do that to an animal is one step away from harming humans ( if he isn't already a serial killer) so be careful. He is such scum it's not worth it to give him any pleasure in seeing you upset. Bless you and I am so sorry for your murdered babies, may they rest in peace.

rosered · Apr 17, 2014

Thank you for your support. Im so upset today and will be for quite a while. This is truly taking an emotional toll on my husband and I . Everytime i even look out my window, what he has done and my cats are all that goes thru my mind. Im tryin not to let it consume me but i am so angry and

deeply saddened by his act of cruelty. My hands are tied. He has done what he has done and theres nothing we can do about it. I can make police reports and even notify the community , but he is a comulsive liar and would never admit to what he has done and is still doing. he is also killing the old lady's cats a few houses down. she had a stroke and is in the hospital and he is killin all her cats...one every day. she had about 8 and now theres

2 left. Im so sick about this whole thing

rosered · Apr 17, 2014

Yesterday i went from door to door notifyin all the people with cats , that if any come up missing, you know who did it.

I was also told he has put up electric wires all around his fence so that when a cat jumps up there, they get electricuted.

He has gone the distance to further act out his hatred for cats. I want to do somethin so bad but it all feels hopeless.

Im wonderin if i can get him on film with one of the cats in his cage and him haulin it away? would that do any good at all.....

i just dont think it does. He feeds them poison and then triumps and gloats about his success in ruling the community.

If it wouldnt put them in danger i swear i would bring 20 cats over here just to bother him...but the cats would be the ones

to suffer. theres just nothin we can do. If the old lady comes back from the hospital, she will find that all her cats are gone.

di and bob · Apr 17, 2014

He does sound like a truly evil person! Electrifying the fence might not be a bad thing if it just shocks them and keeps them away, but if it is strong enough to harm them then call the police on that, it could harm a child and maybe that would get their attention. Something on film would definitely help, but it would actually have to show him actually harming them, he could just say he was releasing them somewhere else. I pray to God that that evil person is stopped, he can't go on causing all this misery. But you know what? I'm sure that if YOU or I tried to take matters in our own hands we would spend time in jail, that's my luck! Please mourn your lost babies and don't taint that love you shared with them by spending any time at all thinking about that monster, he's not worth it at all. He's a horrible, evil excuse for a human being and you are right, God will judge him accordingly.

rosered · Apr 17, 2014

You are rite. I was just readin about california animal cruelty laws and if i can prove what he is doin,

he can be fined 20 thousand dollars and improsonment for a year ! I so wish i could prove it... he needs

to be stopped.

di and bob · Apr 17, 2014

Good luck to you, please keep us posted if that horrible man ever gets his 'dues'. Bless you for caring so much!

rosered · Apr 17, 2014

i surely will. But i do feel hopless. Like you said, even if i get him on film with the cats in the cage,

I can hardly prove he is killin them or poisoning them. We know that he is, and he admitted to me

the other day that he killed one in his back yard and i swear i wish i would have had a recorder on me

at the time. i need all the proof i can get. The cat he killed just had babies....and i think you can only

guess what he did with the babies. Cruel Cruel excuse for a human being .

jodiethierry64 · Apr 17, 2014

rosered said:
i surely will. But i do feel hopless. Like you said, even if i get him on film with the cats in the cage,
I can hardly prove he is killin them or poisoning them. We know that he is, and he admitted to me
the other day that he killed one in his back yard and i swear i wish i would have had a recorder on me
at the time. i need all the proof i can get. The cat he killed just had babies....and i think you can only
guess what he did with the babies. Cruel Cruel excuse for a human being .

That is so horrifying!
Where I live the animal control is worthless. I keep my felines inside. My neighbors hate cats. This is cowboy
country and I have 4 military bases. Cowboys and service men love their dogs not fond of cats.
I've called animal control on strays being poisoned and shot at, with pellet gun and they chewed me out for feeding them. They told me they would fine me because if I feed them they're considered mine and we have a 4 pet limit. I already have 4 so if I feed the strays I could be fined 100 dollars per cat over 4. Now I called about the poisoning and pellet shooting and I got scolded. He said or yelled this ain't C.S.I. what do want us to do?

I'm so sorry for you and your husband!

catsknowme · Apr 23, 2014

rosered said:
You are rite. I was just readin about california animal cruelty laws and if i can prove what he is doin,

he can be fined 20 thousand dollars and improsonment for a year ! I so wish i could prove it... he needs

to be stopped.

I also live in a rural part of CA and it's a tough situation. BUT in a small town about 60 miles south, a man who rescues ferals had the same problem and he called the Bakersfield SPCA and PETA, and PETA was contacting the woman. The result is that he was given time and opportunity to get all the ferals off her property

Your neighbor definitely has a bad heart and somebody needs to tell him that some California first nations teach that when he dies, the cats to whom he was cruel will be at the Bridge waiting for him.

This is what I have to say about that: My dad had a mean neighbor who trapped someone else's cat during the summer & the cat perished in the trap in the summer heat. The neighbor bragged about it to the elderly lady-owner and her friends, getting much delight from their horror

My dad told the neighbor that he'd better repent or face the consequences. Of course, the neighbor laughed at the time....a couple of years later, the neighbor had a heart attack and my dad got a call in the wee hours of the morning from the wife @ ICU, begging my dad to tell her husband that it's not true because the neighbor (who had to be revived a couple of times thus far) was screaming in horror that he didn't want to die because he had seen the cat and that he was so sorry that he was mean to cats!!! Needless to say, my dad could not retract what we believe to be true..

Sending prayers and vibes that there is Divine Intervention very,very soon and that all the cats in your neighborhood are once again safe

Anne · Apr 23, 2014

I wouldn't contact PETA about anything related to stray or feral cats. They're opposed to TNR and feral care and who knows who they would side with.

Maybe @AmandaACA knows if Alley Cats Allies can help with some advice?

stephenq · Apr 23, 2014

In addition to calling local law enforcement i would call your local Animal Control Officer - they would at least pay a visit to him and perhaps put him on notice that he is subject to arrest.

stephenq · Apr 23, 2014

PETA, ironically and sadly is a very pro euthanasia org.....

Norachan · Apr 23, 2014

Hi Rosered,

I'm so sorry you are going through this, he sounds like a horrible old man.

As I understand it California has some strict laws concerning animal cruelty cases. Could you go online and check the California Penal Code and see what it says there?

You mentioned filming him trapping cats as evidence, but this would mean that another cat dies at his hands and also it might not work. He could claim that he was just trapping the cats to get them neutered or take them off his property. Unless you get him on film actually harming a cat I don't think the police would do anything about this. You also said that he brags about killing cats. Is there anyway you could record him saying this? Could you go and ask him if he knows anything about the cats that have disappeared and secretly record what he says?

In the mean time I suggest that you keep your cats indoors and recommend that your neighbours do the same too.

Good luck, I hope you're able to do something to stop him.

Anne · Apr 23, 2014

I found this list of California lawyers who specialize in animal law -

http://lawyers.law.cornell.edu/lawyers/animal-dog-law/california

Maybe you can contact one of them for a consultation?

jodiethierry64 · Apr 24, 2014

catsknowme said:
I also live in a rural part of CA and it's a tough situation. BUT in a small town about 60 miles south, a man who rescues ferals had the same problem and he called the Bakersfield SPCA and PETA, and PETA was contacting the woman. The result is that he was given time and opportunity to get all the ferals off her property

Your neighbor definitely has a bad heart and somebody needs to tell him that some California first nations teach that when he dies, the cats to whom he was cruel will be at the Bridge waiting for him.
This is what I have to say about that: My dad had a mean neighbor who trapped someone else's cat during the summer & the cat perished in the trap in the summer heat. The neighbor bragged about it to the elderly lady-owner and her friends, getting much delight from their horror :wife: My dad told the neighbor that he'd better repent or face the consequences. Of course, the neighbor laughed at the time....a couple of years later, the neighbor had a heart attack and my dad got a call in the wee hours of the morning from the wife @ ICU, begging my dad to tell her husband that it's not true because the neighbor (who had to be revived a couple of times thus far) was screaming in horror that he didn't want to die because he had seen the cat and that he was so sorry that he was mean to cats!!! Needless to say, my dad could not retract what we believe to be true..

Sending prayers and vibes that there is Divine Intervention very,very soon and that all the cats in your neighborhood are once again safe

I also believe what your Dad has said. I believe that in the end YOU will feel all the pain and suffering you've caused to any and every living creature! Unless you repent!!!
Maybe this gentleman, who had the heart attack, will be a changed man. If he has truly repented he will.

jodiethierry64 · Apr 24, 2014

StephenQ said:
PETA, ironically and sadly is a very pro euthanasia org.....

I did not know that!!! I will no longer support them! Why would they be against T.N.R.? It's a wonderful program that if my neighbors didn't hate cats I would participate in.

stephenq · Apr 24, 2014

JodieThierry64 said:
I did not know that!!! I will no longer support them! Why would they be against T.N.R.? It's a wonderful program that if my neighbors didn't hate cats I would participate in.

I'm not sure where they stand on TNR but i would guess they support it, but that's just a guess. They are a strange organization. They have their own adoption center and when their adoption stats were published everyone who was paying attention saw that they did very few adoptions relative to intake and that they were obviously euthanizing a lot of animals. We think that they are so "pro animal" that they would rather euthanize than keep them in cages. On the other hand it was PETA that went undercover at Caboodle Ranch in Florida with hidden video cameras and produced enough evidence of abuse (600+ cats in a outdoor/indoor "sanctuary" in Florida that had gone "bad") that the local sheriff got search warrants and all 600+ cats were seized by the ASPCA, the vast majority rehabilitated and adopted out, and the owner arrested.

So there is good and bad about PETA. I think many of us in the professional animal welfare community have a low regard for them in general.

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