Scared for my cat's safety :c

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Hello everybody!

I'm not sure if this is the appropriate topic to post this thread in, but it made the most sense.

My cat turned 1 year old in February 2014 (as in my introduction) and is male. This is my second cat, the first being outdoor, where I was not old enough to understand care for cats.
He would visit less and less often, and sometimes I would hear him fight outside with another cat, hitting bins and fences. One time, he didn't come back for a week. Then a month, then several months, then a year. At that point, we realised he never going to come back again, and I was the only one who mourned. That was several years ago.
This created my strong opposition to outdoor cats, and is the reason why I try to keep my cat indoor.

Unfortunately, being a teenager, it means my parents have a say in the care of my cat as well. They are very traditional, having no qualms with leaving the cat outside like with the last one, using the excuse "he will come back". My rebutt is, of course, "why hasn't the other cat come back yet?" and they say nothing more.

The cat's boundaries have been pushed more and more, starting with the porch, then around the porch, then around the yard, and he has very recently started jumping the fence and going to the front of the house and next door. I only agreed to him going outside if he would stay within the fences, and that rule has been breached.

I would have no problem about this if our neighbourhood was a bit safer, but unfortunately I have seen cats on the street and cars not stopping, missing cat posters, and the local high school students chasing cats around.

They have been letting the cat out every night now, because he is scared of birds in the daylight (both a blessing and a curse). They also let him out very early in the morning when I am asleep.
He has also taken to using the litter box indoors to urinate and pooping outside. This is another fallback, as one night when I managed to keep him indoors, he had a little accident in the laundry room.

I don't want to turn this post into an angst ridden teenager's rant, but there's it is, I guess.

My question is, how do I convince my parents to keep my cat indoors? They are the only people in the household who oppose indoor cat care.

Sorry for the long post :)

(p.s. It is 7:43pm and my cat is in my room, sleeping. Which is unusual, as he is most active at this time, and outside. I would rather clean up his poop than feel unsecure about him running around in the dark.)
 

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I'm sure you'll get plenty of replies to this that you can show your parents.
Firstly, the first cat I had was a stray about 10 or so years ago. Back then I always thought cats could go outside (although my cat never stayed out at night). He pretty much stayed around our yard if he was outside. He was a beautiful, affectionate cat. Then one day, my son (who was four at the time), my husband and I were out the front yard talking to our neighbour. Our cat rarely left our property, but this day he decided to explore across the road. We were calling him to come back, and he just happened to decide to run back across the road as a mini truck was passing. I saw it happen, my son saw it happen, and it is something I never want to see happen to any cat ever again. That day I vowed if I ever got another cat, it would be indoor only. Most people I know who have lost cats is from car accidents, which is easily prevented by keeping them indoors.
Outdoor cats can also get into fights with strays and feral cats and get nasty diseases, especially feline AIDS. A lot of diseases etc cats get are caught from other cats. They are more likely to get fleas, ticks etc from being outside. They can be attacked by dogs or nasty humans. I saw a vet show the other day and the lady came in with a cat that wasn't breathing because someone had poisoned it with paracetamol.
Also cats kill native wildlife. Yes, it's their instinct to kill prey, but you can fulfill this instinct with interactive toys.
I'm not sure what country you live in, but in Australia it's illegal to have your cats out between dusk and dawn.
 
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Thanks Stormi. I'm sorry to hear about your cat. Definitely going to bring that up, it's a compelling argument.
That paracetamol case is shocking!
And yes, I do live in Australia, although I hadn't heard of that.
 

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Is he neutered? It kind of sounds like your first cat wasn't. It's not really possible to keep an intact male inside, as he'll likely spray strong-smelling urine all over if he can't get out to see the females.

Do you think your parents would let you add anything to the fence, if you did the work yourself? You can modify a fence to keep cats in. And that way he could have the freedom of the yard without being exposed to danger.
 

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Thanks Stormi. I'm sorry to hear about your cat. Definitely going to bring that up, it's a compelling argument.
That paracetamol case is shocking!
And yes, I do live in Australia, although I hadn't heard of that.
Okay, was just double checking the night time thing, and I don't think it actually is law in NSW, I think maybe they were trying to make it a law. I do have a feeling it is law in a couple of other states, though. But legally, cats are not allowed to trespass on other people's property, so those owners could call the pound to pick the cat up.

Some people think it's cruel to keep a cat indoors all the time, but like Willowy said, you can get cat fencing that goes around the top of fences at an angle inwards, so cats can't get out. If you raise a kitten to be indoors only, it's pretty easy, but if you have a cat that's used to roaming then it's a bit more work to get them to become indoor cats, but it is possible.
 
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Is he neutered? It kind of sounds like your first cat wasn't. It's not really possible to keep an intact male inside, as he'll likely spray strong-smelling urine all over if he can't get out to see the females.

Do you think your parents would let you add anything to the fence, if you did the work yourself? You can modify a fence to keep cats in. And that way he could have the freedom of the yard without being exposed to danger.
Our first cat wasn't, as my parents did not feel it was necessary. Snowball was only neutered because I insisted upon it, and it did change his behaviour: he stopped running crazily everywhere :)
Unfortunately, we rent the house and cannot make any drastic changes to the property. I've been considering getting some kind of chicken enclosure wire but I'm not sure how to secure it to the top of the fence, still working on that.
 
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Okay, was just double checking the night time thing, and I don't think it actually is law in NSW, I think maybe they were trying to make it a law. I do have a feeling it is law in a couple of other states, though. But legally, cats are not allowed to trespass on other people's property, so those owners could call the pound to pick the cat up.

Some people think it's cruel to keep a cat indoors all the time, but like Willowy said, you can get cat fencing that goes around the top of fences at an angle inwards, so cats can't get out. If you raise a kitten to be indoors only, it's pretty easy, but if you have a cat that's used to roaming then it's a bit more work to get them to become indoor cats, but it is possible.
Thanks for that, I'll read into those laws :)

I'm assuming you live in NSW, so may I ask if there's any physical stores you can get the cat fencing? Pet stores perhaps?

It was only close to his 1st birthday that they started letting him out, calling it 'unnatural'. Prior to that I successfully kept him inside. Right now I'm working on his need to go out after 6:30pm, he hasn't been out for 2 nights now. Mornings are a different story.

I guess it's a case of picking between the cat's enjoyment and the cat's safety.
 

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You can rig something with metal shelf supports and chicken wire or nylon netting. It would be easily removable so I don't see why the landlord would object.
 
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You can rig something with metal shelf supports and chicken wire or nylon netting. It would be easily removable so I don't see why the landlord would object.
Ok so I've been researching procedures and they're all for wooden fences and fences you can run wire through. My fence is a solid metal fence, so would you have an idea on how to attach supports to that?
 

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You can rig something with metal shelf supports and chicken wire or nylon netting. It would be easily removable so I don't see why the landlord would object.
Ok so I've been researching procedures and they're all for wooden fences and fences you can run wire through. My fence is a solid metal fence, so would you have an idea on how to attach supports to that?
Could you post a picture of the fence? If we can see it someone may be able to come up with a solution.
 
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Sorry for the late reply, haven't been active.
Yes Stormi, it's a colorbond fence.

Any ideas on how to rig a cat fence to that?
 
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Oh and update on the situation: I wasn't active on this thread due to the fact that my parents had finally let the cat stay inside. It was only until this week that they started to urge him out the door again. So, I'm back to square one :)
Thanks to everyone who's helped so far!
 
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