Weak and boney kitten

 My persian  kitten has  a small head and a  skinny body. His chest bones appear soo conspiciously that make him look bonny even to a larger extend.i have tried feeding him several times in a day but because he has no  fixed time of eating, most of the feed gets waisted i have tried things like milk, cerelac, boiled chicken ,rice , bread etc but he only eats  chicken and may grab few bits of other things in the bowl. He doesnt eat cat food either. What shall i do? Any drips or multi vitamins ?  Or shall i set his timetable?  Please guide me...I bought the kitten when it was 1 month old now it is 2.5 months old.

At 1 month old he was too small to be away from his mother, so he had a bad start in life and it can be hard to overcome that. Has he been to the vet? He will need de-worming and vaccines. Did you have him on kitten formula when he was small? That would have helped. At this point I would give him canned cat food mixed with kitten milk formula to try to bring him up to average for his age. He's too young/small for dry food. The other foods you mention should not be fed to him because they don't have the vitamins necessary for him to grow and be healthy. If he won't eat any cat food ask the vet for advice.

If you need to make homemade cat food, check out the raw and homecooked food forum to learn how to make a balanced diet. But don't just give him meat and rice because he will get sick from deficiencies.

Of these foods you mentioned, just boiled chicken is OK.   Of course, have it in small pieces, at least when he is kitten.   Milk?  So so. Many cats dont manage cow milk.   Goat milk, if you can get it, is always OK and good here.

Plain unsweetened youghurt is OK.   Cheese.

If there is no problem with salomonella in eggs in your country, have raw egg yolk (egg yellow) with his food.  say, with this goat milk..   If you DO have problems with salomonella, boiled egg yellow is still useful.

Canned wet cat food is better than dry.

Have a high contain of fat and animal proteins, if you can choose in the cat food.   Most dry cat foods are bad in this.

Kittens shall have quite a lot of fat!

Kitten kmr is good as suggested by Willowy.

Ceraels, bread, - he may taste, but not good. Harmful in long run.

  Rice not as bad, is used as part in some decent cat foods. but just a little.

Let him eat how much and how often he wants.  In the beginning give him mostly what he actually eates, so he gets up the speed and amount of eating....

Good luck!

ps.  If he manages cow milk OK, no loose poo after it, its OK, proceed with that if you want.  Some cats do manage cow milk.

But goat milk is still probably better, so use goat milk if you can get it.

I am too confused :s. I really dont know what i shall be doing
My kitten is too young i know that ...
Can u suggest some food that has kitten milk ? Or any other things i can provide to him to eat.
Yes! I do feed him boiled egg sometimes fried.
I consulted the vet he suggested me that "give me whatever you want,he is a kitten and will set on tge feed you give him" so now i give him cerelac.
What comes under the items that are dry? What are things that would fatten him please suggest something homemade!
Amd finally how would i know if my kitten is having loose poo or not he has litter box for this stuff...i am unaware of his poops.i gave him the medicine for deworming at night but i dont know if he has been dewormed or not *confused on this as well* i just assumed that he might have pooed in d litter box ...but i dont know the true.....HELLLLPPPPPPPPPP

Don't you clean the litterbox? You can look in there to see how his poop is.

Cerelac is rice cereal, right? This is not nutritious for him at all and he may not survive if you can't get him to eat something else. Cats need to eat meat, they can't get nutrients from rice. Cats need meat, calcium (from bones or eggshells), and organs like liver and kidney. Can you get those items from a butcher?

Where do you live? What kinds of tinned cat food can you buy? What kinds of meat are available that you can afford to buy for him?

If they have something like baby formula for kittens, this is what I mean by kitten milk formula. If you can't find that, goat's milk will be OK.

You really need to get some nutritious food into this baby. I'm worried about him .

For now give him cooked chicken (you said he'll eat that), egg yolks, and goat's milk. That will be OK for a short while, but you need to get balanced meals into him or he won't grow up healthy.

Dry cat food is ready made, sold in bags. You buy it in shops, supermakets and such.  This is what most cats gets to eat.   Very convenient for the owner but not always good for the cat. We dont recommend this really.

Wet cat food, or canned cat food, is also ready made, sold in cans. Also sold at supermakets, shops and so on.    This is almost always better than this dry cat food.   Its called for wet, because it contains much water.  it is  still better than dry food.  Contains more of animal proteins and fat, and less of cereals.

Kitten milk, the so called kitten replacemnt milk, is also ready made.  Sometimes it is ready made. Sometimes it is in powder, just add water.

If you dont have it, try to get goat milk.   Also tiny kittens and puppies manage well goat milk.   Alike people with sensitive stomach.

for home made food, you got links, and ideas from me.

I repeat.

Meat in small bits, almost any sort. Chicken and cow safest, but almost any may go.

Best boiled as you dont have a clue what is safe.  But be careful with boiled bones! boiled bones may hurt him.  They get hard and sharp after boiling.  Raw bones are less dangerous

Of organs: heart is good,  a little liver and or kidneys is also useful.

Goat milk is always OK, cow milk not always OK..

Yellow of eggs, or whole boiled eggs.   fried eggs OK, give in small bits.

Egg shells, crushed into fine powder, is good for extra calcium if you give him much meat..  Just a little now and then of these egg shells = extra calcium.

Youghurt - plain, unsweetened youghurt.  cheese  are OK..

You can melt in some butter with his food,  so he gets more fats.

A little olive oil is OK.

Fish is popular by cats, but just not too much raw fish.  Boiled or fried fish is safer.

Tuna fish is good, but again, not too much.

Good he has a litter and makes his pee and poo in that.   You surely see what he did when you take it away?

Or does somebody else helps you with it?   Your parents?  

Poo from a healthy cat is rather hard, like small short round sausages.  It shall "never" by runny or watery = diarrhea.    Poo may sometimes be  a little rare, like a pancake.   If it is occasionally, its OK, but if it is always half loose like that, try to find better or anothe food.

Please tell us where you are in the world, it may help us look up food options for kittens where you live so you can go find some, or at least come up with things that are available for you to make.

Kitten milk is a drink - it's not added to food - it IS a food, a replacement for mum's milk, at least better than nothing.

You seem to be feeding the kitten human food, rather than cat food.  You say he doesn't like cat food but I think it may be worth trying a few different flavours and try for a while if you can afford to. This food should have more of the nutrition that your kitten needs, rather than rice. Cats need protein, lots, as well as some essential vitamins and minerals. These are all added to cat food and it takes the worry out of what to feed him for you. If he really will not eat canned cat food, please follow the advice above because what you're feeding him at the moment is not good for a cat for too long. He needs a very good diet, especially as he was taken away from mum so young.

Good luck! I know it all seems  to be so very much for you to learn about but it will get easier, promise!

OK, to make a good diet for him, you need some kind of meat (chicken, beef, goat, mutton, etc.), some eggshells, and some kind of organs like kidney and liver or sweetbreads. Crush up the eggshells very fine.

A fairly good recipe would be:

900 grams of plain meat
100 grams of heart meat
50 grams of liver
50 grams of kidney (you can use any 2 different organs but liver and kidney are probably most common)
6 grams of crushed-up eggshells

(You can make less if you want but keep those basic ratios)

Give some egg yolks and goat's milk a few times a week.

That should be a reasonably balanced diet for a country that may not have all the resources that Americans and Canadians are accustomed to. You might ask the vet if there is a kitten multivitamin that would help, at least while he's so small.

BUT, I think you should try to get him to eat some tinned cat food at least sometimes. If you can find some, mix it with goat's milk to make it mushy, and put a little on your finger and try to get him to lick it. Sometimes you have to teach little kittens how to eat their food.

Fleabags Mom said:

 
Please tell us where you are in the world, it may help us look up food options for kittens where you live so you can go find some, or at least come up with things that are available for you to make.

Kitten milk is a drink - it's not added to food - it IS a food, a replacement for mum's milk, at least better than nothing.

You seem to be feeding the kitten human food, rather than cat food.  You say he doesn't like cat food but I think it may be worth trying a few different flavours and try for a while if you can afford to. This food should have more of the nutrition that your kitten needs, rather than rice. Cats need protein, lots, as well as some essential vitamins and minerals. These are all added to cat food and it takes the worry out of what to feed him for you. If he really will not eat canned cat food, please follow the advice above because what you're feeding him at the moment is not good for a cat for too long. He needs a very good diet, especially as he was taken away from mum so young.

Good luck! I know it all seems  to be so very much for you to learn about but it will get easier, promise!

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Basically this.  While Stefan Z gave a VERY thorough and comprehensive list of human foods cats can eat, to make sure that the meals made of human food are 'nutritionally complete' over an extended period of time requires a lot of reading/ research, and can be difficult depending what you have access to and how much time you have to devote to it.  This is why I don't feed 'raw' myself- it is, I don't want to say HARD to do right, but time consuming and again, involving a lot of planning/research/reading.  

What you are feeding the kitten now is not okay, unfortunately.  Are you weighing him daily to figure out how much, if any, weight he is gaining?

If I were you I would feed him kitten milk replacement  few times a day until he gets a bit bigger, and ALSO be feeding him whatever cat/kitten food you can get him to accept.  Some kittens just take a while to 'get the hang of' cat food... it might be not that he doesn't LIKE it, but that he doesn't UNDERSTAND it.  This is somewhere mom would be helpful, but even with moms around half the time my fosters just think it is something to play with/in at first, and always at first they get more of it on their face/bodies than in their little mouths.  He might just need more time to get the hang of it. 

I live in pakistan. Yes . Now that i have guided by mom stephen willowy and many good ppl i would try buying cat food . I can afford any sort of cat food etc
Cereal has wheat and fruit content in it. Now adays he is eating boiled chicken necks can i give him boiled chicken kindeys liver and heart? The egg shells should be given raw?
My maid changes the litter I'll ask her.

soomboom said:

. Now adays he is eating boiled chicken necks can i give him boiled chicken kindeys liver and heart? The egg shells should be given raw?
My maid changes the litter I'll ask her.

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boiled is safest.  But  if the chicken was healthy, you can give these heart, liver, kidneys raw too, if you wish.

Egg shells, it is perhaps best to boil, to be

sure all bacterias are killed.  Its also easier to pill the shell from the egg.

Crush it thoroughly into fine powder.  Or ask pleasantly your maid to help you.  

I know in some countries it is quite common with maids.  As it was common in Sweden for say 70 years ago.   Both the rich, and the middle class had usually maids.

You can cook the eggshell to make it easier to crush up, or let it dry out without cooking. If it's from a boiled egg it's already cooked . But it would be hard to crush if still damp.

Don't give him cooked bones (I don't think there's a way to remove the bone from a chicken neck). Cooked bones get very brittle and can hurt him. Only raw bones, or use eggshell for calcium. If he eats the raw bones he doesn't need the eggshell.

If you think it's not safe to feed him totally raw chicken, you can dip it in boiling water just long enough to kill the germs but not long enough to cook the bones.

Your maid needs to get some of your cats poo and someone needs to take the poo to the vet to check for parasites. Being a good pet owner means you know everything about your companion. It's food and water in take as well as it's liter box behavior. In most parts of the world you wouldn't be able to buy, foster or adopt a 4 week old kitten. It needs it's mother's milk and it's mothers training during the first 10 weeks of life. Their mothers milk is full of antibodies that the kitten needs to survive and your kitten has been deprived of these very important antibodies. The diet you have chosen is for humans and not cats, let alone for a kitten. Their stomachs aren't ready yet to digest food, let alone the human food you are trying to feed it. Goats milk is fine but once again it doesn't have the antibodies in it to protect the kitten.

If you continue on this path you are on feeding a 1 month old kitten, human food especially cereal your kitten will die. It's not a baby and any vet who told you to give the kitten cereal should not be practicing. Cats are meat eaters when they come of age to eat meat but you have a kitten, a kitten that needs different nutrients then an adult cat. If you acquire a cat or kitten you should have been prepared to know what you were getting into and the responsibility that comes along with owning a living, breathing creature, that feels pain and can suffer. You didn't buy a plant.

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Your maid needs to get some of your cats poo and someone needs to take the poo to the vet to check for parasites. Being a good pet owner means you know everything about your companion. It's food and water in take as well as it's liter box behavior. In most parts of the world you wouldn't be able to buy, foster or adopt a 4 week old kitten. It needs it's mother's milk and it's mothers training during the first 10 weeks of life. Their mothers milk is full of antibodies that the kitten needs to survive and your kitten has been deprived of these very important antibodies. The diet you have chosen is for humans and not cats, let alone for a kitten. Their stomachs aren't ready yet to digest food, let alone the human food you are trying to feed it. Goats milk is fine but once again it doesn't have the antibodies in it to protect the kitten.

If you continue on this path you are on feeding a 1 month old kitten, human food especially cereal your kitten will die. It's not a baby and any vet who told you to give the kitten cereal should not be practicing. Cats are meat eaters when they come of age to eat meat but you have a kitten, a kitten that needs different nutrients then an adult cat. If you acquire a cat or kitten you should have been prepared to know what you were getting into and the responsibility that comes along with owning a living, breathing creature, that feels pain and can suffer. You didn't buy a plant.

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It is very important to keep in mind that in different parts of the world things work very differently, and cats are viewed very differently than in the USA.  Standards for how you treat cats may be different, what food is available for cats may be different, access to vet care may be extremely limited or even effectively nonexistent if you live in a very small town many miles from a city center.  People usually come here because, regardless of where they are from or their prior level of education, they want to learn more about how to treat their cat well, and it is important to try to be supportive of that. While of course ideally people would educate themselves extensively about a cat before owning one, the reality is many people don't, or are educated relative to their community/country's standards, which is much lower than the one we have in the USA (which I'd argue is not even particularly high on its own). The OP can't change how much he or she knew in the past and is trying to move forward, and seems to be taking steps to do so based on his or her recent comments.  I think it is important to be supportive of that.

I dont know what is happening. How can i upload picz and post comments on others threads...??

Please do not take to heart the comments by some people. Obviously, taking care of a kitten is new for you & you are trying very hard to do the right thing for your kitten. You are smart to seek advice from The Cat Site community. If some comments are a little harsh, it is only because people are very concerned for the welfare of your precious little kitten. You have received some excellent advice. Follow that advice & I am sure your kitten will begin gaining weight. If you have a food scale, you may weigh your furry little one on it. Good luck to you. I look forward to hearing how your kitten is doing in the very near future. What have you named your kitten?

I think you are doing a great job coming here for advise and taking care of kitty! Let us know how kitty's doing pictures too

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I dont know what is happening. How can i upload picz and post comments on others threads...??

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Use this link to add pictures. http://www.thecatsite.com/a/how-to-add-an-image-to-your-forum-post

Thanks a lot.

Can you get any wet cat food? or maybe chicken and boil it? I think here everyone has given great advice. Good luck and I wish you the best with your kitten.