When shall i make my kitten mate?

My kitten is 2.5 months old i dont know when shall i make him mate?I dont want him to spray all around my house!cleaniless issues. What are the signs of my kitten getting married ?

Do your cat the best favour ever and do not let him mate. Get the cat neutered.  It's better for their health, it stops many problems like you've mentioned with spraying. The best thing? Stops many unwanted kittens.

If you are unsure about how to mate your cat, signs age etc or like your other post about scratching, & behavioural problems, I would recommend you learn a lot more about cats before you even think about breeding them.  You need to be very clued up to be a honest, safe and good breeder with a lot of knowledge about cats. Anything less is just cruel.

Thinking that your cat will a) not spray once it's mated and b) will prevent such behaviour is wrong. A cat that isn't neutered young enough will display this behaviour for many years. Allowing it to mate will not stop this.

Can you please let me know at what age will he start spraying?
I may not prefer a surgery for my kitten i am too scared and i feel happy the way my kitten is it isnt much rude or has attitude problems, but at the same time i have problem for his own satisfaction . . Not allowing him to mate would not be correct ethically but i seriously dont know what shall i do. I need guidance.

The main guidance you are going to get here is to get him neutered.  It is a short minimally invasive procedure.  They don't even put them completely under with a full anesthetic, he won't feel anything while it is done, it just isn't necessary for such a short easy procedure.  

Males will usually start spraying around 8 or 9 months and he will never be satisfied as far as mating goes.  He will continually mark with the spraying.  The problem won't be allowing him to mate it will be trying to stop him.  He will get out and roam.  With the roaming will come the fights with other tom cats.  With the fights will come abscesses and exposure to incurable diseases such as FIV.  At some point he will simply not come home because he is no longer alive or he will come home badly injured and won't survive.

soomboom said:

Can you please let me know at what age will he start spraying?
I may not prefer a surgery for my kitten i am too scared and i feel happy the way my kitten is it isnt much rude or has attitude problems, but at the same time i have problem for his own satisfaction . . Not allowing him to mate would not be correct ethically but i seriously dont know what shall i do. I need guidance.

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Ok.

Your kitten, how he is now will no longer be the cat you know and like.  If you let your cat reach sexual maturity without being neutered then he will change and you are doing your cat a disservice for sure.

It WILL spray. It will not stop. This is instinct - as natural to your cat as breathing. You can't stop it once it starts. Do you really want your home, clothes, sofa, walls to smell of a very strong cat wee?  Anything he wants to claim as his, he will spray it.   You will have a home that people avoid because you smell! Please do not put yourself though that just because you think your cat should have 'satisfaction'.

You are also going to be exposing your cat to dangers and illness as Denice has said above. Why would you want to do that to your lovely kitten?

Please understand too that to have a problem with your cat's own satisfaction that you are thinking the cat is like us. Humans understand urges and chose to act (or not) on them. You are are making a mistake to apply human laws to your cat, this is not his nature. Simply put, your cat is much more basic. It does not need to mate, but if you allow him then he will not stop wanting to mate when it reaches sexual maturity. It will fight other male cats, it will create many more cats that will be unwanted & die.  Do you think that not mating is not ethical? I would say allowing him to mate is not ethical.

I really do recommend reading much more about cats & all things like this - there are a ton of good articles on the internet for free to start with. Talk to your vet.  It may dispel some myths that you have & give you a much better understanding of being not only a responsible pet owner, but a darn good one which I am sure you want to be. Your cat deserves little else!

http://www.thecatsite.com/a/when-to-spay-neuter-a-cat

2.5 months is a bit young lol

It is very ethical to never allow your cat to mate, because there are too many kittens in the world, not enough homes for them, so many are killed because nobody wants them . What will you do if nobody wants to keep his kittens? It is definitely unethical to kill them or throw them outside to die on the streets.

Male cats who are not castrated will change their attitudes and begin to spray urine around 8-12 months of age. It becomes very difficult to live with them indoors at this point. It would be MUCH more ethical to have him castrated than to throw him outside. If you like his personality as it is now, it's best to have him castrated around 6 months of age. Otherwise his personality will change drastically when he becomes sexually mature.

@Soomboom.   Which country are you from, where do you live you and this kitten?

The answers depends partly on the circumstances around.

But it your kittens grows up into such a male who is spraying (almost all do)

- the only remedy is to neuter him yes.     )

So for you and the kitten the easiest way out is to neuter before the spraying and problems do begins.

Yeahhh...thanks alot for the help. May god bless you guys specially mom
I will look into this. What is castered and neturate ? I really even dont know their spellings lol

Neutering and castration are really two terms that mean the same thing.  They will remove his testicles.  Those being removed means no testosterone which means no desire to mate.  No testosterone will also mean that he will be less territorial and also much less likely to become aggressive.  Being less territorial means he will be much less likely to need to mark his territory with the spraying.

Denice said:

 
Neutering and castration are really two terms that mean the same thing.  They will remove his testicles.  Those being removed means no testosterone which means no desire to mate.  No testosterone will also mean that he will be less territorial and also much less likely to become aggressive.  Being less territorial means he will be much less likely to need to mark his territory with the spraying.

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He will not fight with other cats as much.  The risk he goes astray searching after females will be much less.

Not neutered cats tend to disappear when they are fully grown, at perhaps 2 years age...  They go away...  And either goes astray, or are run over by cars... Or killed by angry owners of female cats...

If you are not a breeder, do neuter your cat as soon you can.

If you ARE a breeder, you will neuter anyway at latest when he is about 2 years, so his life will be easier.

CaptainBro124 said:

2.5 months is a bit young lol

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Actually, this is an 'old' and somewhat outdated way of thinking.  It is just untrue.  As long as a kitten has reached 2 pounds, it can be neutered at 8 weeks of age, and many kittens are.  10 weeks is certainly old enough to be neutered as long as the 2 pound threshold has been reached. 

tulosai said:

 
Actually, this is an 'old' and somewhat outdated way of thinking.  It is just untrue.  As long as a kitten has reached 2 pounds, it can be neutered at 8 weeks of age, and many kittens are.  10 weeks is certainly old enough to be neutered as long as the 2 pound threshold has been reached. 

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I thought he meant 2.5 months is too young to mate?

molldee said:

 
I thought he meant 2.5 months is too young to mate?

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ah, you are probably right... with all the talk about neutering and it being under many posts about neutering, I assumed it was also about neutering, but perhaps not.

In any case, I think it is good info for the OP to have that the kitten can be neutered immediately.  Regarding mating, as everyone else has said, the kitten will mate when it is ready to mate, and there will be no stopping it.  However, that CAN happen as early as 4 months of age (though it is rare, I have seen it) and so neutering sooner rather than later is very important. 

I suspect the OP is not in the US, and in many places the vets are a bit old school and won't neuter very young. I think most will do it at 6 months though.

soomboom, if you are in the US, yes, the neutering can be done as soon as you like.

@soomboom, allow  me to share a picture with you.

This was Buddy, a 10 month old UNNEUTERED male, and this is the brutality your male will encounter if you do not neuter him BEFORE he becomes sexually mature, as young as 5-6 months old.


He was completely blinded and had to be euthanized, rather than live a long life. The minute he goes out looking to mate, he will run into other unneutered male cats who will tear him up if he attempts to go into the other cats mating territory, and he surely will, as he will be ruled by his hormones.

Male cats who are unneutered fight, and they fight to kill, so they are violent and brutal, they spread FIV and FELV with their deep bites, this poor little boy's eyes were bitten and scratched, which quickly became infected. They cause great injuries, bite wounds ALWAYS become infected/abcessed, so save your money now because you are going to be taking him to the vet often if you don't get him fixed soon.

You can't UNDO whatever happens to him once it's done. 

He will NOT be the same cat he is now, he will become aggressive, have a much wilder, bolder demeaner, he will spray awful smelling urine, and once he starts this, chances are even if you do get him fixed after this he will always be a sprayer. NOT a nice thing to live with.

Not to mention, the endless babies he will make, who will mostly die a cruel painful death outdoors. 

All of my rescue kittens are spayed and neutered at 2 pounds, which is 8-10 weeks.

It is very fast recovery, 1 day and he will be right back to his old self.

Yep. I have a tomcat in my spare bathroom right now (not a tom for much longer ), he was one of the semi-tame strays who was taking advantage of my feral feeding station. He showed up one day with an his face clawed to shreds and an abscess the size of a tangerine on the side of his face, looking quite ill and unable to chew due to the swelling. I popped him in a carrier (he didn't fight due to being so sick) and put him in the bathroom and gave him some watered-down canned food.

The abscess started draining as soon as I had him inside---not sure if he broke it open fighting the carrier or if it was frozen shut (it was below zero that week), and it opened up a huge raw area that is still not fully healed. I can say with fair certainty that without care he would have died. He is probably only about 12 months old and already his tomcatting caught up to him :/. I just hope he didn't catch FeLV while out there fighting.

I meant to take pictures of the nastiness for a lesson on why toms need to be neutered young. But I never got around to it. But the picture above is not too far off, except thankfully his eyes weren't affected.

So. . .if only to save yourself the vet bills, you don't want a male cat to get to sexual maturity! It's a real problem if you want him to stay tame and friendly.

@soombom,  in another tread you told your kitten was undernourished.   He didnt ate well when you got him, he still isnt eating enough. But you got good advices on this.

This also means, you cant neuter him as yet, even if you find a vet who is prepared to neuter at 10 weeks. He must be at least this 2 pounds (= 1 kilogram) at first, and also be stronger.

As he is a persian, he probably will mature somewhat later than most shorthaired cats.  But you cant be entirely sure.

So you dont need to neuter him several months yet, but dont wait too long.   Do it as soon he is healthy and strong enough.   Use the time to find a vet whom you trust, and isnt too costly.

Good luck!

This breaks my heart, poor little love.

@Fleabags Mom, it was the saddest thing ever, it is burned in my memory forever. When I found him he was crying in a parking lot coming towards the sound of my car. I can still hear his cries to this day.

A tragic, haunting experience for me, and I can only hope that Buddy's story might save others from going through anything like he did.

Just wrong. It's been more than a year now and I have not recovered from this enough to even really think about, which tells me I probably never will. When I took him in to the vet, she immediately whisked him back and shot him up with morphine without a word, as his pain was unthinkable. No living creature should ever suffer such horrifying pain.

I remember when my daughter, at 2 stuck her finger in my eye, and how badly it hurt me for days afterwards, so I can't begin to imagine what Buddy felt. Poor baby boy.