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Hey everyone, how are you all doing? I just found this site, and Im really into cats. I own an intact russian blue male
how about you?
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welcome to the site. it can be addicting and of great peace and support. where in utah? my boyfriend is from there, he loves it and is adjusting to Seattle rain ever so slowly. do you have cat pix of your 'blue? are you going to breed at all or? what is his personality like? how old? we all love to hear about these things! my oldest, Sasha, was supposed to be a russian blue butit didn't pop out that way - hence the Russian boy's name, Sasha.

Happy Fall to you.
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Thanks for the welcome everyone.
I dont have any pics of him right now, but Ill have some as soon as I get my dig. camera up and running. Hes about 4.5-5 years old, and has a real good personality. Very human friendly, he just drools some due to a misaligned tooth. (Im not the original owner)
I dont have the time or anything to breed him and such, as I have school things to tend to, but who knows.
Also, if anyone knows:
Im not 100% sure about his bloodlines, but Ive noticed lately that his tail seems to have a type of ring pattern on it. Not a true blue?
Either way hes still a great cat. Mabye when I get pics up you all can help.

Oh and Im out of South Jordan, Utah. Just south of SLC. I was up in Seattle just about 5 months ago for a car. That rain really gets on my nerves. What area is he from?
-Peace out all,
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Welcome to The Cat Site. I have 2 cats, a DSH and a Burmese. Someday I would like to have a Russian Blue.
 

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He's from American Fork, just south of SLC, too. He loved it there, he moved here to be w/his Dad, who lives 5 minutes from us. He's having a hard time with the darkness and rain this year, it's really bad this year, all the rain. You take care and welcome again to you.
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Yeah the rain can be really depressing sometimes. Ive got some friends down in American Fork. I like that area, but its a bit to sparse for me. Well good luck with Seattle


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Welcome Cougar. I love Russian Blue's, although I don't own one myself. I have 2 Siamese: 1 Blue Point, and 1 Seal Point. I also have a 6 month old Bengal kitten, and a 3 1/2 year Pomeranian dog.

I'm from Los Angeles, CA, but I think Utah is one of the most beautiful states I've been to.
 
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Hey, I love siamese cats. Theyre awesome. Is that a Bengal Tiger kitten? If so, id love to get some pics.


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No, it's just a Bengal cat. They originally bred Domesticated cats with the Asian Leopard cat to create the Bengals. Once they are 4 generations away from the Asian Leopard cat they are considered regular domesticated cats, but with the markings and general look of the Asian Leopard cat. I have pictures of him and my Siamese on the Fur Pictures section.
 

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Hi Brandon, I mean no offence or not picking on you when asking this question but how come your boy is still intact?


He sounds beautiful! Russians are such graceful animals!


I hope you're having a lovely day!


Sam.
 
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No problem, to be honest Im very against the spaying/neutering of animals
and I think a few people on here might have oppisite views on it, but lets not start that argument right now.

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Actually, Brandon, the site itself is VERY pro-spay/neuter.

Refering to Rule #2:

Please make sure to spay or neuter your cat. Unless you are a professional breeder and your cat is part of a professional breeding program, please spay/neuter your cats before they reach sexual maturity (at the age of 4-6 months). By spaying and neutering you enhance your cat's quality of life and improve his or her health. You are also proving your love for cats because in acting as a responsible pet owner you are minimizing the problem of cat overpopulation. Please read this article and don't hesitate to ask for more information in the forums.

I would hope that you would be open to a different viewpoint, and if you will not change your mind (regardless of the 8-12 million companion animals that are killed each year in the US alone because of the rampant overpopulation problem), please respect our standpoint as an educational website. You will see us encourage every person here to spay and neuter unless the animal is being kept by a legitimate and responsible breeder.

I do not mean to start an argument with you, and you do not need to respond to this if you don't want to, but I did want to let you know what our ideals are.
 
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I understand where your coming from, and I am by no means here to push my beliefs on anyone. I assumed the site would be pro spay/neuter because most cat related orginizations are.
Ill read up on the article since Im not to well educated on the subject, but I doubt it will sway my current position.
Just know that I do respect this website as and educational one, and feel free to tell people whatever you want. I have no intentions of starting my own little cult


Thanks for the responses everyone,

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Well I read that article you posted and one thing in specific bothered me:
Will my cat be deprived of manliness/the experience of motherhood?
Please don't make the mistake of thinking about your cat in terms of human experience. Cats are not bothered by our social concepts of gender and gender-specific experiences.
How did they come to that conclusion?
This is not the reason Im against it, I just though it sounded like they were putting words in the cats mouth...
 

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Hi Brandon! Thank you for taking the time to read the article.

That point was included in the article because it is one argument many people (usually males) use to defend their anti-spay neuter position. The statement in the article "Please don't make the mistake of thinking about your cat in terms of human experience. Cats are not bothered by our social concepts of gender and gender-specific experiences." is included not to put words in your cat's mouth, so to speak, but simply because it's the truth. To place that value judment on a cat is to put words in his mouth, and as I'm sure you're aware, it's called "projection." Any animal behaviorist can tell you, and all studies on the subject indicate that the male/female role in the animal world is a genetic and hormonal one, not a "value judgment" or a social "role" learned like in the human world.

Our cats are into alpha status and territory - it doesn't matter if they're male or female. The dominant cat will become alpha - whether it's a 20 pound male or a 3.5 pound female. Being spayed or neutered won't affect that outcome. Being spayed or neutered will only affect the level of aggression in a multi-cat household (by lowering it), and decrease (probably to non-existent) the incidents of territory marking and fight wounds.


As you note, most cat sites are pro spay/neuter. In fact - I'm not aware of any that aren't. Even the Cat Fanciers' Association, the preeminent association for Breeders in the U.S., promotes spay/neuter for non-breeders. The issue is not only one of homeless cats. Even if you keep your lovely Russian Blue inside only - he will live a longer, healther life if neutered. Study after study have proven this - if you would like links to actual studies on the subject, please let me know and we'll provide them for you.

I certainly don't mean to lecture. It's just that I conduct research for a living (it doesn't happen to be animal related), and when I tackle a subject, I really delve into it. And after the weeks of research I put into the topic of spaying and neutering, I was able to come to only one conclusion. If not to prevent unwanted pregnancies, spaying or neutering our pet cats should be done for longevity, health and behavior reasons.

 
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