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post #1 of 22
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PETA Handing Out Cards Against Nuggets Top Stories
10-24-2003 03:46:PM
(Tucson, AZ) -- People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, or PETA, will hand out some interesting trading cards on Monday at a local elementary school. The "Chicken Chumps" trading cards will be handed out by a giant chicken to the kids at Butterfield Elementary School as they leave. The cards depict the "cruelty and ill health effects" that go into the making of fried chicken, chicken nuggets, and other types of fast-food chicken products marketed towards children. This is part of PETA's ongoing effort to hold KFC responsible for how they treat the birds. They will be out at Butterfield Elementary School at 3:00 Monday afternoon.


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Frankly, if some weirdo, in a chicken suit, was hanging around MY kids' school, I'd be down there, with a bag of flour and a skillet. I LOVE fried chicken!
post #2 of 22
UGH I HATE PETA!!!
post #3 of 22
Targeting elementary school students is going too far.
post #4 of 22
PETA's motto: Animals are not ours to eat, wear, experiment on or use in frivolous entertainment.
Maybe they sometimes take this to the extreme!
post #5 of 22
this really p*sses me off! leave the little kids alone; if PETA wants to go after KFC, target adults. this sickens me about as much as pro-lifers who target children with that crap.

if it were around me, i'd be frying up that giant chicken!
post #6 of 22
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Originally posted by katl8e


Frankly, if some weirdo, in a chicken suit, was hanging around MY kids' school, I'd be down there, with a bag of flour and a skillet. I LOVE fried chicken!
LMAO!!Me too.

That would really piss me off if it were my child's school they were going to.I guess my child would either be picked up early that day or not even go.That is just wrong for them to go after children.
post #7 of 22
I am with you Cindy - I LOVE fried chicken too.
post #8 of 22
I agree with a lot that PETA stands for, but they go about it, in such a way as to turn people off. It's kind of like those Religious Zealots who meet you outside of a concert or something, and they automatically assume you're going to Hell.

I agree they have gone too far when they try to recrute little children via a fried chicken situation. However, there are a lot of animals that are being treated cruely and inhumanely by mankind.

These people just need to go about it in the right way, and choose the correct battles.
post #9 of 22
I hate peta!! They need to find something better to do with there time and MONEY!
post #10 of 22
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Instead of picketing McDonald's and tossing paint on fur coats, why don't they do something substantive, like setting up a fund to provide veterinary care or a sanctuary for abused animals? At least, THAT would accomplish something. Whenever there is a reward offer, in an animal cruelty case here, the money comes from the Humane Society, the Animal Cruelty Task Force and private donations.

People are not going to stop eating chicken and hamburgers, just because some publicity-seeking nutcase is running around in a chicken suit.
post #11 of 22
I think that PETA has approached lunatic fringe territory. If they had a reasonable and well balanced statement, delivered in a rational method, they might get some mainstream support. But if they continue doing "wacky" things, people will dismiss them, and their message.

I feel like going up to them with a big bucket of KFC.
post #12 of 22
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Originally posted by Sammie5

I feel like going up to them with a big bucket of KFC.
Maybe, while they're harassing small children, the mothers will pelt them with McNuggets. That's sight that I would pay money to see!

post #13 of 22
While I agree that PETA has once again gone too far (elementary school kids are not a suitable target), I'm glad somebody is calling attention to the inhumane treatment of chickens. I only buy eggs from free-ranging hens, and meat (including pet food) that comes from organic farms with free-ranging flocks. While I've personally checked out the local farm the eggs come from, there's no way to confirm many of the producers' claims. I make an effort, though. I love fried chicken, but haven't bought anything from McDonald's or KFC for at least 25 years for precisely this reason. We're "half-hearted" vegetarians, meaning we eat meat two or three times a week, and any carnivorous or omnivorous pets get it every day. The conditions "battery hens" live under really are horrendous, and I don't want to support them by buying "cheap" meat or meals. Chickens aren't "cute and cuddly", but they need supporters nevertheless!
post #14 of 22
Sounds like PETA is looking at the play manual of the anti-abortion people who wave photos of fetuses at women entering family planning clinics.

PETA was interviewed on the radio here in NYC abt the Siegfried & Roy tiger attack. Their rep said something abt the danger to humans of those types of animal shows etc etc. One of the radio people, who seemed to know something about PETA, asked how they felt about housepets, "you know, cats and dogs". In response to that question, their rep started talking about the TIGER in the NYC apartment and how you couldn't keep animals like that as pets. Duh. The spot ended then, so the commentator didn't re-ask his actual question.

In the end, though, I think that how animals are raised for food comes back to the fact that there are 6 billion people in this world, many of whom don't actually get adequate food on a daily basis. Some Americans can afford to buy free range chicken & beef, which costs more, and can afford to buy premium food for their pets. But until something happens about human population growth, or ways develop to cheaply synthesize and distribute foods for humans, I think it's unrealistic to assume that vast changes will be made in food animal farming.
post #15 of 22
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Originally posted by Lucia
In the end, though, I think that how animals are raised for food comes back to the fact that there are 6 billion people in this world, many of whom don't actually get adequate food on a daily basis. Some Americans can afford to buy free range chicken & beef, which costs more, and can afford to buy premium food for their pets. But until something happens about human population growth, or ways develop to cheaply synthesize and distribute foods for humans, I think it's unrealistic to assume that vast changes will be made in food animal farming.
The things is, the "factory farms" with their overcrowding, hormones, etc., seem to mainly be located in North America and Europe, and the food sold "locally". Public pressure, i.e. consumers boycotting certain products, would at least be a start. I can see that happening over here with GM foods (which I don't find as objectionable as mass husbandry). And do people really need to eat so much meat? We'd probably be a lot healthier if we restricted our consumption.
post #16 of 22
I have mixed feelings about PETA. Society needs the far fringe groups to put all sides of an issue up for public view. While I don't always agree with the opinions or tactics or any far fringe group (either side of the fringe), I respect that they are out there voicing their opinions. It provides a balance to the information provided to society and allows me to make fact based choices in life.

For this specific PETA example, I can't help but remember my nieces and nephews coming home from grammer school and reminding their parents to "turn off the lights when you're not in a room", "don't leave the refrigerator door open", "walk don't drive to the corner store", "recycle those cans and bottles" and other environmental saving insights that they learned in school. My siblings, while annoyed for a bit, knew that their kids were right and changed their habits for the better. Look at all the recycling efforts that we take for granted now that didn't exist when the far fringe environmental groups were pushing them years ago.

Things never change in society overnight. Farms that mass produce meat products are not only harmful to their livestock, produce inferior products, but also put the people that work under those conditions at health risk. If you try to target adults about the conditions at these farms, will they even listen or care? Will things change in the near future? Probably not.

Children are fundamentally the makers of the future. Fringe groups understand this and are targeting their education for the future generations. Change for the better treatment of animals will take generations to take hold. As many homeless pets (cats and dogs) as there are out there today, the number has dropped off a lot from 30 years ago (based on current estimations) due to this type of education.

The only thing that would bother me about this is if they were presenting extremely graphic images to the children. But then again, look what kids are exposed to these days on TV and I would bet that what PETA is presenting is probably a lot less graphic.

Just my opinion!
post #17 of 22
Thanks, Amy

That was well said and I agree completely. It's funny how people love their pets but are so insensitive to the suffering and pain of innocent farm animals.
post #18 of 22
While I want all animals to be treated humanely, I certainly don't agree with PETA. I don't like PETA. I wish PETA and these fanatical fringe groups would go away.

Why? Because I feel ashamed to tell anyone that I consider myself an animal activist. They hear those words and automatically think of movements like PETA, Greenpeace, and more recently ELF. They tune out anything I may have to say, no matter how logical or fact based my arguments are because we all know how far these groups have pushed their "facts" to get their points across. Terror tactics have never and will never change people's minds (i.e. ELF's "eco-terrorism", or PETA's scare-tactics for these little kids). Education will. These groups are more interested in getting their own name out there than they are about trying to systematically educate people.

Amy, I agree that children are the future and to change the way that the world thinks about any issue means that we must educate the children with the real truth. Your example of recycling is a good one, and I hope that we as a society can provide the same type of education to children about responsibly caring for animals, spaying and neutering their pets, and wanting humane treatment of all animals. But I strongly disagree with PETA's "education" tactics.
post #19 of 22
It is up to parents and teachers to educate children, not a person in a giant bird suit!
post #20 of 22
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PETA got their comeuppance. They failed to let the principal know about their plans and he was alerted by some parents, who had seen the press release. The principal told them to get their dog-and-pony show off of school grounds and they had to move onto public property, in front of the school.

The nut in the chicken suit hung around the crosswalk, while the rest of them tried to hand out their "trading cards" to the kids. A large number of parents showed up, to walk their kids home and reinforced the teachings "don't talk to strangers" and "don't accept anything from strangers".

The cards that they were handing out made such statements as "chickens never get to go outside and play", "chicken is loaded with fat and cholesterol" and "chicken is full of germs, that can make you sick and those germs are POOP."

The few children who were allowed to speak with reporters made comments such as, "How would they like it, if we told THEM not to eat something, that THEY like?" and "I like chicken and I'm going to eat it."

This bunch of bananas plans to drive to El Paso, today and then on to Albuquerque, to try the same thing. I would expect that they'll get the same reception, in those two places.
post #21 of 22
SIGH..what a bunch of nut cases...this reminds me a little too much of the incident that happened when a pro-life group was showing graphic pictures to kids. man, leave the kids alone! you want to push for animal friendly education in schools? COOL. but handing out propaganda like that is not all right. yes, animals do need to be treated better, but scaring little kids is not the way to do it.
post #22 of 22
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I am always appalled, when people drag their kids into their political causes. When I see children at protests and walking picket lines, I want to shake the parents and tell them that those kids should be PLAYING, not protesting.

Recently, some of our local schools have engineered politically motivated "marches", under the guise of "field trips". A couple of months ago, a middle school had an anti-war march, during school hours. Educators should not use their jobs to foist their political agendas on other people's children. No wonder, that kids can't read!

Honestly, if I had young kids, I'd scrimp and save to send them to a private school, that teaches MY values.
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