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My cats were always free fed kibble and got 1/4 can of wet food twice a day. In the last few years after trying to get weight off of them I stopped free feeding and they got 1/4 kibble and 1/4 wet food. My older cats that i've had before knowing that wet was better still get kibble they get 1/8 in the morning and 1/8 at night and 1/4 can. The question is with my youngest cat hes about 9 months old now and i feed him just wet food he gets wild calling and/or hound and gatto and sometimes i will throw some raw in. he gets 1 full can a day. His weight seems fine hes not fat and hes not skinny weights about 9-10lbs hes a big cat. Does that sound like enough. i'm bad at figuring out how much he should be getting. Sometimes i will throw some GF kibble in for him because he still seems hungry as treats i found zeuks gf treats he likes alot too that are moist treats.
 

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What size is the can of food that your ninth month old is getting, and are you splitting this into separate meals or feeding all at once?

The rule of thumb is to feed according to the age and appropriate weight for their frame size. For instance an 8lb cat will require about 30 calories per pound a day, so the average total should be about 240 calories. That said, you also have to look at the amount of activity your cat is doing each day. Young cats who are quite active may require more calories than a more laid-back or sedentary cat.

I mentioned this in another thread, but I have a tuxedo who is coming on two, in very good condition, and who would gladly eat until he exploded but probably not gain weight. He is quite active during the day and most definitely has a different metabolism than my other two cats. Nonetheless, I feed 2x wet in the morning hours and 1/4 grain-free dry in the afternoon of controlled feedings.

The other thing to consider is that dry food is denser and higher in calories than wet food and so it may be that your cat is not feeling satisfied with the amount of wet food he is receiving currently. You may want to think about increasing this, if the case.
 
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What brands/flavors of food do you use? How big are the cans? I can figure the calories if you want but I need more info ;).
 
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The cans are 5.5oz and he gets 1/2 can in the morning and 1/2 can in the evening then late evening i've been giving him 1/8 cup of earthborn or taste of the wild GF kibble. The type of canned food is Wild calling I alternate the different protiens Chicken,duck,buffalo,pheasant,beef and I also feed Hound and Gato wet food lamb,rabbit, pork. He isn't thin he seems a good wieight  I just never had a cat so into food. I wasn't sure if its just his personality, kind of like beagles are more food drivin than other breeds of dogs. If its because i just give  him wet which is why I started adding a small amount of dry to fill him more in the evening. He was like this as a kitten too. he will steal food off your plate he jumps in the sink and any crumbs or anything he will scarf up. He ate a whole bag of treats that I had in my purse and then ate my advil I had in there and I had to rush him to the vet. I just want to make sure i'm feeding him enough.
 

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The cans are 5.5oz and he gets 1/2 can in the morning and 1/2 can in the evening then late evening i've been giving him 1/8 cup of earthborn or taste of the wild GF kibble. The type of canned food is Wild calling I alternate the different protiens Chicken,duck,buffalo,pheasant,beef and I also feed Hound and Gato wet food lamb,rabbit, pork. He isn't thin he seems a good wieight  I just never had a cat so into food. I wasn't sure if its just his personality, kind of like beagles are more food drivin than other breeds of dogs. If its because i just give  him wet which is why I started adding a small amount of dry to fill him more in the evening. He was like this as a kitten too. he will steal food off your plate he jumps in the sink and any crumbs or anything he will scarf up. He ate a whole bag of treats that I had in my purse and then ate my advil I had in there and I had to rush him to the vet. I just want to make sure i'm feeding him enough.
According to this link about Wild Calling Chicken, the kCal for this is 145 : http://www.thecatsite.com/products/wild-calling-cabin-fever-chicken-can-cat-food. According to the website, the The Hound & Gatos Lamb for instance is much higher in 192 kCals

Hound & Gatos : http://houndgatos.com/cat-products.aspx

Using guidelines in kCals according to the Merck Veterinary Manual, indoor cats need roughly 45 kCal/kg a day. Converting your cat in pounds to kilograms gives us 4.5kg. Using a formula suited to kCal, we calculate 4.5kg x 45 kCals gives us 202 kCals per day for your cat, if you want to maintain your cat's current weight.

The Wild Calling gives you 145 kCal with 57 KCals leftover. Depending on the kCals of the Earthborn, you might be hitting the target or exceeding it when feeding the Hound & Gatos. If your cat is a good weight, then it sounds as though he is probably getting enough.

My young tuxedo is always interested in food but I'm pretty sure that some of this is just boredom, rather than true hunger. This could be the case with your kitty as well and maybe more play-time might be in order.
 
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Re: Wild Calling.

I've conversed with the vice-president both through email and telephone.  

The information on their website regarding Kcal. per can is correct.

The information on 'some' of the tins in circulation, is incorrect.  That's the reason why I called them to begin with.  The calorie content on the dog food tins was the same for each and every protein I looked at on the shelf, which is very odd.   I was told a story about how the 'average' kcal information is calculated for all the foods to be the same, as per following the AAFCO guidelines.  Yet, they (Wild Calling) felt that wasn't entirely appropriate, thus changed the labels to closer approximate actual Kcal. content.   I have some of the older circulated tins (label change in the past ~ 4 months) with the older label.

Once again, the website information is correct, or closer to what we're used to with other companies. 
 

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Re: Wild Calling.

I've conversed with the vice-president both through email and telephone.  

The information on their website regarding Kcal. per can is correct.

The information on 'some' of the tins in circulation, is incorrect.  That's the reason why I called them to begin with.  The calorie content on the dog food tins was the same for each and every protein I looked at on the shelf, which is very odd.   I was told a story about how the 'average' kcal information is calculated for all the foods to be the same, as per following the AAFCO guidelines.  Yet, they (Wild Calling) felt that wasn't entirely appropriate, thus changed the labels to closer approximate actual Kcal. content.   I have some of the older circulated tins (label change in the past ~ 4 months) with the older label.

Once again, the website information is correct, or closer to what we're used to with other companies. 
Good. Thanks for confirming the kCal content!

That 'story' sounds a bit suspect 
I don't see how the kCal can be consistent from can to can when the meat protein and contents will change? Lamb and anything with liver in it is going to drive up the kCal content for sure.
 
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Yeah, well...you're going to love what an employee from Global Pet Foods (another franchised operation) told me prior to my call directly to Wild Calling.  This was an older fella too, that very well could have been the owner of the store - pure speculation on my part. 

He told me that the KCal content of the foods is the same to make it easier on the customer if they have to choose a different protein.   That, they play around with the protein and fat content in order to come up with the exact same Kcal content across all Wild Calling foods. 

So...chicken would be the same as pork, lamb, pheasant, duck, buffalo? (all of which they carry) - Yeah, sure.   The sales staff was somehow trying to explain the universal label used on all the Wild Calling cans.   

This is what I mean by - some people will make up a story for anything, in order to make a sale.  They just don't want to say they don't know.   Of course that isn't unique to that store, it could be Walmart, or Best Buy.  

Thankfully we stay informed through a bit of research on our part.   Makes we wonder how many fabricated stories I was told in a retail store prior to the days of the internet. 
 

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Yeah, well...you're going to love what an employee from Global Pet Foods (another franchised operation) told me prior to my call directly to Wild Calling.  This was an older fella too, that very well could have been the owner of the store - pure speculation on my part. 

He told me that the KCal content of the foods is the same to make it easier on the customer if they have to choose a different protein.   That, they play around with the protein and fat content in order to come up with the exact same Kcal content across all Wild Calling foods. 

So...chicken would be the same as pork, lamb, pheasant, duck, buffalo? (all of which they carry) - Yeah, sure.   The sales staff was somehow trying to explain the universal label used on all the Wild Calling cans.   

This is what I mean by - some people will make up a story for anything, in order to make a sale.  They just don't want to say they don't know.   Of course that isn't unique to that store, it could be Walmart, or Best Buy.  

Thankfully we stay informed through a bit of research on our part.   Makes we wonder how many fabricated stories I was told in a retail store prior to the days of the internet. 
Yup .. Thank goodness for the internet.


I suppose its possible to make every can the same kCal, but then there would need to be less of something in the higher calorie diets, and what do you remove? There are no carbs in this food from what I have seen, only meat and if you are removing meat, what is making up the difference to arrive at the same volume? ... Anyway, no need for speculation - we know the kCal is different from can to can.
 
 
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