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post #1 of 27
Thread Starter 

RR has cat food now. She has had dog food for awhile. Walmart has it now. Do you think its any good?

 

 

 

Chicken, Water, Vegetable Oil, Powdered Cellulose, Tricalcium Phosphate, Guar Gum, Xanthan Gum, Choline Chloride, Potassium Chloride, Natural Flavor, Magnesium Sulfate, Taurine, Salt, Carrageenan, Cassia Gum, L-Ascorbyl -2-Polyphosphate (Source Of Vitamin C), Iron Proteinate, Zinc Proteinate, Niacin, Vitamin E Supplement, Copper Proteinate, Vitamin A Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate, Manganese Proteinate, Pantothenic Acid, Riboflavin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Folic Acid, Calcium Iodate, Biotin, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement

post #2 of 27

The only ingredient that turns me off to this cat food is the carrageenan in it.

post #3 of 27
Thread Starter 

OK ty! 

post #4 of 27

Well, I'm not too fond of that powdered cellulose.  Know what that is?  Wood pulp!  Yes, we humans eat it every day in lots of the food we eat (we just didn't know it), but there really isn't a need for it in cat food, and the carbs are pretty high in this food because of it. 

post #5 of 27

Plus, it has not one, but three gums - plus carrageenan. lt seems to be a lot of filler.

post #6 of 27
Thread Starter 

So what do you suggest? i need a grain free, low carb fod with out all the things people keep telling me shouldnt be in there. I am running out of ideas/options.

post #7 of 27

This used to be my cat food cupboard before l started feeding raw. l had a young (starving) kitten at the time who ate like a horse, so that food was bought for a month (3 cats).

I still feed them some of these foods. They don't really enjoy the EVO kitten & cat, but l like it so they get it. The grain-free Wellness is a decent price so they get that once in a while too. They love the Wellness Core and the Merrick Cowboy Cookout, and Turducken. Since Merrick changed their formulations l've stopped buying them.

The Tiki Cat they really like. l can't find the chicken flavours here so they are treated to the fish flavours a couple of times per month.

And good old Friskies and Fancy Feast pates on the left side of the cupboard. They still get those too.

The main components of their diet now are my homemade raw, and 2 types of freeze-dried raw - Stella & Chewy's and Primal.

 

So the long answer is there is a ton of different foods out there, l guess it depends on what you're looking for. Most of the cans in the picture above contain carrageenan. That's out for some people.

Some cans contain BPA. That's out for some. 

Friskies and lnnova contain rice ... and so on. lf you create a wide enough rotation of brands, flavours, and variety, most shortcomings will be negated.

l hope this helped. lt's quite daunting to start out at the beginning :) 

post #8 of 27
Thread Starter 

Thanks Andrya. It used to be avoid by products, then grain. Now thats not all. There is Guar Gum, cellulose, carrageenan. Flax and safflower. Vit k3  The list goes on.  

Even the more expensive "better brands" have ingredients that need to be avoided.  Even if I changed up with different brands.  How do i limit these ingredients? 

 

No wonder more people don't feed canned. 

post #9 of 27

Hounds and Gatos is just about perfect, IF your cats will eat it :lol3: (mine won't :sigh: )  Of course, RAW is the best way to go if you can...one of mine loves his raw :yummy:, but the other two not so much frown.gif )

 

Here is one of many threads out there that might help...it's about carrageenan free foods:  http://www.thecatsite.com/t/262990/carrageenan-free-canned-foods

 

NOW, here is a chart to use to help find low carb foods.  Grain free isn't all I look for, it's low carb as well.  http://catinfo.org/docs/FoodChartPhosphorus9-22-12.pdf

post #10 of 27

lt's much, much worse with kibble. l bought 2 different bags of expensive kibble and mixed them together before l found this site. Needless to say they got thrown out.

l've learned a lot from being here, and like most things, it's an evolution. l started with a lot of Weruva in the mix, but my cats are on the slim side so l quit buying it. l go for the heavy protein and moderate-heavy fat now as they are staying the same weight on that.

Cans will need to contain a gum (usually guar). This is a "better" choice than carrageenan. But if your cat(s) show no sensitivities to carrageenan, there's likely no need to avoid it altogether. lf there is a "perfect" food for your cats but it contains carrageenan, it shouldn't be a deal breaker.

post #11 of 27
Thread Starter 

Thanks, that was one of my questions. As to which ingredients I should avoid over the others. I am feeding 7 cats. So its hard to find flavors/kinds that everyone will eat. Doesnt contain junk. Mess with the youngests tummy. and lastly cause my overweight kitty to gain more. :(  I have switched to grain free. What do you look for in low carb foods?

post #12 of 27

ln order of importance for me, it goes:

 

Wet (any) over dry

Grain free

Low carb

High protein

Carrageenan-free

 

The food chart that mrsgreenjeens linked is a very useful tool.

 

Here's a short thread you may be interested in addressing ingredients lists etc.

 

http://www.thecatsite.com/t/271642/changes-in-cat-food#post_3483367

 

lt just kinda highlights how to use the ingredients and analysis charts to form an overall picture of each food. And again, the cheaper, less perfect foods have their place within a rotation. l go frain-free on almost all their foods, but still give them Friskies dontknow.gif  which contains rice. Everything in moderation, within budget, that the cats will eat. This is the best we can do.

post #13 of 27
post #14 of 27
I use the Racheal Ray chicken and brown rice. It does not have the wood pulp or carrageenan in it. The only thing I don't like is the corn gluten in it. I alternate this with wet food. Probably not the best but she won't eat raw, just fancy feast. Not the best but you can't tell your cat what's better for it.
post #15 of 27

I would say, don't buy it. We purchased this a couple of weeks ago for our elderly cat 18+ and he ate some and wouldn't eat any more.  He was definitely on his way out...but it has always been his way to not eat something if it was bad. 

post #16 of 27
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Originally Posted by Purrsian View Post
 

I would say, don't buy it. We purchased this a couple of weeks ago for our elderly cat 18+ and he ate some and wouldn't eat any more.  He was definitely on his way out...but it has always been his way to not eat something if it was bad. 

 

Welcome to the site!

 

I added these products to our Review Section and I'd love to have some reviews on them added here - 

 RACHAEL RAY NUTRISH Natural Wet Food for Cats - Several Flavors 

 RACHAEL RAY NUTRISH Natural Dry Cat Food - Various Flavors 

 

We're having a fundraiser this month too, so for every review written, we add a dollar to the donations fund. It will all go to cats in need next month :bigthumb: More about the fundraiser here.

post #17 of 27

Bought it yesterday & my cat ate it up - then got diarrhea!  She hardly touches canned food...I'm so disappointed, keep trying to find a wholesome cat food she will eat.  THE only food that she LOVES is the rotisserie chicken from Whole Foods - won't touch it from other stores.  But she can't live on it - needs the extra taurine that feral cats get from hunting & eating the brains...yuck.

post #18 of 27
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Originally Posted by Bessie Glavas View Post
 

Bought it yesterday & my cat ate it up - then got diarrhea!  She hardly touches canned food...I'm so disappointed, keep trying to find a wholesome cat food she will eat.  THE only food that she LOVES is the rotisserie chicken from Whole Foods - won't touch it from other stores.  But she can't live on it - needs the extra taurine that feral cats get from hunting & eating the brains...yuck.

It may have been too quick of a change for her?  My cats have always needed a gradual change of foods.  Any outright change leaves them with diarrhea. ohwell.gif

post #19 of 27

Since I bought 2 cases of it, I mixed 1/2 of it in with canned salmon.  She's 11 years old & I've fed her all kinds of things over the years, never had that reaction before.  I'm sure it's from the high amount of cellulose in it - I'd get diarrhea with that much myself!

post #20 of 27
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Originally Posted by Night Wing View Post
 

The only ingredient that turns me off to this cat food is the carrageenan in it.

car·ra·gee·nan
ˌkerəˈɡēnən/
noun
 
  1. a substance extracted from red and purple seaweeds, consisting of a mixture of polysaccharides. It is used as a thickening or emulsifying agent in food products.
post #21 of 27

It also contains a lot of sawdust instead of real protein - I don't think there is much meat in it even though they list it first. Plus only the chicken flavors are clear of mendione bisulfate - all the fish flavors contain this toxin.  I tried feeding it to my cats - the chicken only - but they throw up. I noticed it is pretty frequent after they feed on this stuff and both cats are throwing it up - a golden vomit that even looks like the food. I think they can't digest the sawdust (cellulose) and since the rest is all filler when they throw it up - they retain nothing. I actually threw out the last few containers and won't ever buy it again. Rachel Ray should be ashamed of herself with this food - it is anything but nutrish.

post #22 of 27

It is not good for cats - it is not good for people - it is one company that produces the bulk of it and they probably spend more money trying to convince the public that it is not toxic then they spend producing the ingredient. It is much healthier to use tapioca as a thickner - you do not need it - the only food I consistently see it in is whipped cream but everything else is starting to find healthy substitutes. Google this with Dr Oz or Dr Mercola - they both say avoid. Avoid for people and definitely avoid for cats. At least make sure it is way down in the ingredient label and do not feed more than a few times a week.

post #23 of 27
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Originally Posted by RemmieBrandt View Post
 

It is not good for cats - it is not good for people - it is one company that produces the bulk of it and they probably spend more money trying to convince the public that it is not toxic then they spend producing the ingredient. It is much healthier to use tapioca as a thickner - you do not need it - the only food I consistently see it in is whipped cream but everything else is starting to find healthy substitutes. Google this with Dr Oz or Dr Mercola - they both say avoid. Avoid for people and definitely avoid for cats. At least make sure it is way down in the ingredient label and do not feed more than a few times a week.


This refers to carreegenan - I tried to quote another poster but for some reason it didn't quote.

post #24 of 27
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Originally Posted by Bessie Glavas View Post
 

Since I bought 2 cases of it, I mixed 1/2 of it in with canned salmon.  She's 11 years old & I've fed her all kinds of things over the years, never had that reaction before.  I'm sure it's from the high amount of cellulose in it - I'd get diarrhea with that much myself!


Mine are throwing up too - I actually started another thread before I saw this but yes - it is from this food now I am sure.

post #25 of 27
Has anyone here used Purina Beyond canned? It supposedly grain free, and my cat loves the chicken, sweet potato, and spinach stuff. He actually ate a whole can of it a few days ago, and he is super picky. He usually gets dry, but even then won't touch a lot of canned foods. I think it has carrageenan in it, but I haven't noticed any issues.

As for this stuff with the powdered cellulose, I am frankly appalled at the humongous amount listed in the ingredients.
post #26 of 27
Why do you need grain free food, just curious?
post #27 of 27
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Originally Posted by misterwhiskers View Post

Has anyone here used Purina Beyond canned? It supposedly grain free, and my cat loves the chicken, sweet potato, and spinach stuff. He actually ate a whole can of it a few days ago, and he is super picky. He usually gets dry, but even then won't touch a lot of canned foods. I think it has carrageenan in it, but I haven't noticed any issues.

As for this stuff with the powdered cellulose, I am frankly appalled at the humongous amount listed in the ingredients.


Yes - I bought the flavors without the mendione bi sulfate (k3) and my cats licked at it but they don't like the chunks so I've taken 4 or 5 cans at a time and grinded them into more of a pate then refrigerate it - they will eat that then - slowly - they'll not loving it but they'll at least eat it. It is a process though because the food has to come out at least 20 minutes before I want to feed them to get it to room temperature for them. I am going to continue buying it though because options are pretty slim. I pick up the Firstmate turkey on Amazon, the Tiki brand - but they only like the chicken - they hate the sardines (anything with sardines actually) and the against the grain some of the chicken ones seem pretty good. I am concerned that they are made in Thailand where there are so many illegal dog meat producers but they like it and I like the ingredients so I buy it and hope for the best. They will also eat the Hounds & Gatos - but beef only and the Werever Trulex but only the Duck. So there are some foods out there but what the cats will eat versus the decent foods is a struggle. Also I noticed Authority brand by Petsmart - only certain flavors of course - is pretty good. They only like the chicken pate though and again the other ones are chunks I need to grind for them. Looking and learning and trying.

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