Looking for yummy lower-phosphorus wet food (non-prescription)

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Does anyone have any suggestions for YUMMY (!!) non-prescription lower phosphorus wet food? I have a few senior kitties that have phosphorus values a bit higher than they should be (values 8 months ago were just fine, and now are a bit too high). Creatinine values are mildly elevated (not alarming). I want to keep up the protein levels, so will not touch the prescription kidney foods even if my cats would eat them, as the low phosphorus in that case goes along with low protein. At this stage, my kitties still need their protein.

I am going through some of the non-prescription low phosphorus wet foods on Tanya's CRF list to find out which ones taste the best. So far, the kitties are *really* liking the Authority Turkey Recipe Flaked. I highly recommend this to anyone in search of a lower phosphorus (0.7%) wet food and a bonus is that its cost is reasonable - it is a hit with the cats. Does anyone have any other recommendations??
 

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I think it's hard to make recommendations because cats are so individual, and what one cat finds yummy another one might sniff at and turn away in disgust. Especially if you have a picky cat or two, it can take much trial and error (and wasted food) to figure out what they like. Texture and temperature of the food can also make a difference.

One thing I would recommend is looking into egg whites as a low phosphorus, high protein food to supplement their diet.
 
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I noticed that Authority food I mentioned has egg whites in the ingredients list. Is that put in to get more protein without adding more phosphorus or do they use it for some other reason?

I mentioned the Authority food as I have 5 picky senior cats who can *never* agree on one food - even the "yummy" regular foods like Fancy Feast. But for whatever reason, all 5 of them like the Authority Turkey flaked - this is unheard of so it must be a relatively yummy food by many standards - even if not all.
 
 
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I have been looking for a High Protein, Med to High Fat, Low Carb, Low Phos pallitable food for Callie for a year.  One that she liked at one time was Wellness Venison, Lamb and Beef.  Now she doesn't like it any more
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The only thing I can suggest is taking this chart and searching it for somthing that falls into your parameters,then trying it to see if your furkids accept it:  http://www.catinfo.org/docs/FoodChartPublic9-22-12.pdf
 

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I remember TCS member @otto saying that he/she uses the By Nature Organic line of canned foods for her cat Mazy because it is low[er] in phosphorus.
 

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I remember TCS member @otto saying that he/she uses the By Nature Organic line of canned foods for her cat Mazy because it is low[er] in phosphorus.
Yes, that's true.  I ordered some of that, and my cats don't like that one either
.  But they don't seem to like anything that's good for them
 

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@Scarlett 001, I read one of your posts in another thread that you are using Royal Canin Senior for the dry. You may want to look into NOW FRESH[emoji]8482[/emoji] dry cat food made by Petcurean (http://www.petcurean.com/for-cats/now-fresh/). The phosphorus level is at about 0.67% DMB and may have better ingredients. 
  There are slight differences between the Adult and Senior formulas, so you'd have to take a look at the guaranteed analysis and decide what your cat needs (the fat and fiber content is a little different). You'd probably have to buy this food online. Many of the major online retailers have it (Chewy, Pet360, Petflow, PetFoodDirect, etc.). Just wanted to throw that out there. I bought a small sample bag from k9cuisine.com to see how Boo and Caesar would like it. The kibble is REALLY small and great for senior cats with no teeth or mouth issues. Boo thought it was okay. Caesar didn't seem to mind; I think he liked the small kibble and was easier for him to swallow. Neither of them went crazy over it, but its a great non-prescription dry option.

I tried a few of the non-prescription Science Diet wet foods for Boo when we thought he was having kidney issues. He didn't like them! 
 
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Thank you for that tip.

I am still using the Royal Canin dry food for general feeding as it gets the paws-up by more of the senior gang and they need to keep eating. But a few of them did like the Now food (I bought a bag - the adult is lower phosphorus than senior so bought that), and I tried mixing some of those tiny pebbles in the wet food of a few picky wet food eaters and they loved it!!
 

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Weruva is supposed to be good for kidney issues.
Yes,  most of the Weruva cans are low in phos, but the problem with them is they are also low in fat and low in calories.  For me, I find this a problem, as my kidney cat needs to put on weight
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It's a conundrum, that's for sure, because what's yummy to one cat is yucky to another
 
 

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I could be wrong on this, but "fat" isn't the only ingredient which will put weight on a cat. A high percentage of protein will also put weight on a cat.

I'm no guru when it comes to wet food, but since Weruva was mentioned, take a look at their wet canned cat food with regards to protein, percentage wise, on a dry matter basis. The link is below.

http://www.weruva.com/weruva-cat-cuisine-nutrition.php
 

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I could be wrong on this, but "fat" isn't the only ingredient which will put weight on a cat. A high percentage of protein will also put weight on a cat.

I'm no guru when it comes to wet food, but since Weruva was mentioned, take a look at their wet canned cat food with regards to protein, percentage wise, on a dry matter basis. The link is below.

http://www.weruva.com/weruva-cat-cuisine-nutrition.php
Protein is definitely good, but fat has more calories, per ounce, and is therefore better for weight gain if your cat isn't eating much at all.  I don't mean to say you want your cat to eat ONLY fat, or even HIGH fat, but I definitely don't want my too thin cat to eat a LOW fat diet.  Here is a quote from an article published on this (TCS) site:"fat has almost twice as many calories as protein and carbohydrates. Cats utilize fats for energy well, and fat provides cats with needed nutrition: but a cat eating high fat foods will need less food or they may eat too many calories and thus gain weight"

My Vet actually advised that I try adding in some kind of oil to my girl's food to up the fat.
 
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