Sid has Lung Cancer

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Our beloved Sid Vicious was just diagnosed with lung cancer. He threw a blood clot to his front paw and was in so much pain. The veterinary ER thought he was in heart failure, which has a grim enough prognosis. Further testing revealed the tumor. We're waiting to hear from the oncologist about next steps, but after doing some reading we aren't at all optimistic. It seems it will cost us hundreds if not thousands just to figure out exactly what we're dealing with--above and beyond the $1,600 we've already spent. It's not about the money--we're already just about bankrupt, though we have a credit card--but we don't want to flog Sid with invasive procedures and chemo and radiation just so we can have a few more months with him. The various vets and specialists have been very kind, but they always seem to push aggressive, high-cost treatment. I've been through this before--I had a cat with lymphoma, and the oncologist wanted $5,000-$6,000 for chemo, etc. (Actually, he never gave me the big picture--he priced it out per treatment and let me do the math.) After doing some research, I discovered that this would likely give me less than a year with my cat, during which time she would be sick and miserable. And still they made me feel guilty for not doing it. I don't expect charity, but I do expect honesty and compassion. I also want appropriate palliative treatment during the time we have left, in the likely event we decide not to go through with additional invasive procedures. I'm going to ask Sid's primary vet what she thinks (she was very supportive of my decision not to do chemo before) but I wanted to see if anyone out there has had any success or advice to offer when it comes to this particular cancer. Given that Sid had a rough start in life (he was found beaten half to death with half his ear ripped off after spending god knows how many years on the streets) and we know nothing of his history or even how old he really is, I can't imagine we're going to be able to do anything other than make him comfortable. The surgery alone is $3,000. If that were the end of it, we'd probably just go into hock, but that's before the cancer is even biopsied or staged. And of course, no one can give us any guarantees. Sid is just getting back to his old self after the ER visit, so we're loathe to put him through anything that doesn't ultimately add to his quality of life.

Right now we are doing exercises to see if we can get Sid the use of his paw. Everyone thinks I'm crazy, but I think he's a little depressed about it--he really likes to use his paws to grab things and play, more so than any of our other cats. We do range of motion exercises every six hours, and the paw has definitely loosened up, but his forelimb is totally limp. He's had breathing problems since we rescued him four years ago, so we're hoping it's a slow growing cancer. Right now the x-ray shows only a single tumor, which is positive. But... his paw paralysis could be due to a metastasis, not a clot, which would likely render a surgery to remove the tumor in his lung useless. We figured we'd keep working on the paw for a few weeks to see what happens. If he clears the clot and regains use of the paw, that makes the decision harder. If it's a metastasis, he likely won't regain use of the paw, making the decision somewhat clearer. Anyway... any words of wisdom would be much appreciated, especially from people who have been where we are. Sid is responding well to taking meds and being less active, but it seems cruel to put him through too much else. I guess I just feel bad because Sid has had to overcome so many challenges, and he deserves so much better. I feel cheated that we've only had four years with him. And I feel helpless. 

Thanks...

 
 

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Hi,

I dont have experience with your situation, but I have experience with making the decision.  I had a dog that developed autoimmune hemolytic anemia.  I was given the option of blood transfusions, but there were no guarantees.  I could not but her down, but could not afford treatment.  The vet kept her in office treatment of steroids and fluids.  She didnt make it, because the disease was farther along then we thought.  

With Sid, knowing that the outcome is not good, do you really want him to be miserable for however long he has?  If the prognosis was good, then spend the money on treatment.  I would spend the money on keeping Sid comfortable for the time he has left.
 
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I'm so sorry about your dog. But I guess when it comes to end-of-life care, animals have it better than people. I just spoke with my primary vet. She confirmed that doing chemo would be for us, not Sid. It's just hard when the oncologist suggests that we could have additional years with Sid if only we were willing to lose our home to afford treatment. As it is, I'm overdue for my own echocardiogram, and I just paid for one for my cat!

So, beyond giving him blood thinners and an appetite stimulant--and continuing physical therapy with the paw--does anybody have any suggestions? We'd really like to get that paw back for him, though he has already figured out a one-pawed leap onto our very high bed. We got him some steps, but he ignored them. Even when he fell on his face, our Sid just kept trying until he got it.

Also, any suggestions for special cat food, high calorie treats, etc., would be much appreciated. I've heard cats can drink goat's milk? We figure he should have anything he wants right now. He just finished a jar of baby food.
 

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I agree, I guess what you should ask yourself is if it was YOU and you had the choice of prolonging your life by a few months with powerful treatments that make you sick , or taking something to help with the pain and saying goodbye to the ones you love, I know which one I would choose. Please don't feel any kind of guilt, there are not many people who could afford to provide the treatments they are talking about, treatments that will not provide a 'cure', just prolong the misery in the time they have left. You gave him a wonderful home and a good life, and most importantly you gave him love and your heart, which he's gladly returned with his own. Just love and spoil him in the time you have left, he'll let you know when life becomes a burden. I'll pray for you all to have the strength to get through this, bless you for your caring and your love for this beautiful little soul.
 

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I agree, I guess what you should ask yourself is if it was YOU and you had the choice of prolonging your life by a few months with powerful treatments that make you sick , or taking something to help with the pain and saying goodbye to the ones you love, I know which one I would choose. Please don't feel any kind of guilt, there are not many people who could afford to provide the treatments they are talking about, treatments that will not provide a 'cure', just prolong the misery in the time they have left. You gave him a wonderful home and a good life, and most importantly you gave him love and your heart, which he's gladly returned with his own. Just love and spoil him in the time you have left, he'll let you know when life becomes a burden. I'll pray for you all to have the strength to get through this, bless you for your caring and your love for this beautiful little soul.
  I absolutely agree with this.  I've got a kidney cat at the moment (not my first), and although my heart will break AGAIN, I will not go to extremes to prolong her life.  Right now she appears to be a happy camper although she barely eats anything


Once your little guy doesn't appear to be enjoying life as he should, then it's time to help him go
.  I'm so sorry for his diagnosis, and that life seems to have given him a raw deal
  At least for the past four years it seems he's had a great life with people who really care about him.  I say treat him like a king until it's time to go


As far as high calorie treats, etc., the freeze dried 100% pure meat treats are usually well loved and are pretty caloric.  Things like Wholelife and Purebites.  I buy the ones for dogs simply because the bags are bigger
.  They come in chicken, turkey, beef, liver, lamb, venison, even cheese.  chicken is the favorite around here.  Also, two of mine like Dr. Harvey's Power Patties, which are freeze dried raw green tripe.  One patty has around 30 calories, but usually a cat cannot eat a whole patty in one sitting.  These are also dog treats that need to be broken up for cats.  And they smell like dried cow patties, but are quire enticing to most animals
.  And EXTREMELY nutritious.  A cat or dog could actually live on these with nothing else but water.  (per a conversation I had with Dr. Harvey.  Which reminds me...yes, goats milk is good for cats. 
 

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I had a vet tell me to put my cat Munchie to sleep because he was in a lot of pain due to Joint issues and has a bad heart.  He was still happy, purring all the time, granted he wasn't very active but he's never been very active.  I chose to treat his pain and treat his heart condition we also found out he had.  I have decided if he gets to a point he isn't enjoying life, I will put him to sleep, but for now with meds, supplements and diets he's a pretty darn happy cat, getting happier every day.  I am sorry you are dealing with this diagnosis in your kitty.  Cancer is never easy, I have been through is several times over the years.
 

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Chemo doesn't always make them sick. But it also doesn't guarantee success. We put our wee Daisy through chemo and got 4 happy months with her doing great. Unfortunately the chemo has stopped working recently. I would still recommend it as a possible option if there is a chance of it helping. It's such a personal choice and no decision is the wrong one. Good luck with sid. I'll say a wee prayer for him. x
 

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I am so sorry that you and Sid are going through this.
Such a wonderful life you've given him the last 4 years! I have no doubt you are right about his depression over his foot. If he doesn't get use of it again, he'll get used to it and adapt. That's what they do. But your efforts to help him regain use is what defines quality of life. These are the moments to treasure. Sid doesn't care whether you spend the $3,000 for the operation, he doesn't understand any of that. What he cares about is that you care enough to help him with something that he does understand and is so important to him, his foot. Whatever decision you make, let it be what you feel is best for Sid. Sometimes that idea gets lost in the would, should, could stuff.

Lots of prayers to you and Sid. Please keep us updated. When do you expect to hear from the oncologist?

In memory of my precious Festus, 2001 - 2012, abdominal cancer.
 
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