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Sorry I am not a native Eglish speaker, please bare with my English and help me.

I have two cats, both male, brothers, 6 years old, 7kg and 7.5kg, getting neutered when 1 year old.

They both have blood in urine about a year, they both need to pee multiple times in a short time, sometimes the blood comes with the last drop of urine, sometimes the whole urine is red. They eat, 

drink, play, sleep normal, and they did not lose weight much, they lose weight about 0.5kg in a year, and right now they are keeping this weight.

And I find one of them will often get pee on his belly, I really do not know how it gets there, I try to follow him wathing him pee, but it won't wet his belly. So I guess maybe it is pee on his belly when he fall asleep, I do not know. He is a long hair cat, his penis is usually wet, and we will wash his penis once in two days, but still, his penis is turned big and turned black. The other one is a short hair cat, he doesn't have such issue.

They drank boiled water from birth to 4 years old, then we move home, now they are drinking filtered water without boiled. And they drank a lot. They eat dry food, the ORGANIX indoor adult cat food, and the ORGANIX adult cat food. Sometimes they eat beef, shrimp, about once a week. They do not like fish or chiken.

I learned this probably is FLUTD, And I tested their urine PH, the value is about 7-7.5. So I tried some medicine for them. 

1) Clavulox, about two months, when they have it, the blood is a little bit better(like one day ok, the next day not ok), but they will get Loose stool, once I stopped Clavulox, the stool is ok and the blood is coming again.

2) VET A MIX, Methio-Form, about one month, no use, not getting worse.

3) DORWEST, MIXED VEGETABLE tablets, about one month, no use, not getting worse.

4) VetPlus, CYSTAID, about two month, almost no use, not getting worse.

Please help me...
 

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Have your cats been seen by a vet? If not, then you MUST do so as soon as possible!

Ongoing blood in the urine indicates a serious urinary tract infection or kidney disease. If your cats are exhibiting signs of pain and straining, then it is likely a UTI. Either way, you need to get your cats to the vet so that a urinalysis and blood work can be done to determine the cause of blood in the urine. The urinalysis will reveal the type of bacteria that is present so that the appropriate course of medications can be prescribed to treat, if a UTI.

It is dangerous to try and treat this condition on your own, you are putting your cats lives in jeopardy. UTI if left untreated, could lead to urethral obstruction, and death. Please don't delay.
 
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hi, thanks for your reply. My local vets are no good, last year one of my cats was throwing up, I went to the best VET, 3 different men gave us 3 different treatment, and getting my cat worse. I threat my cat by asking online, it works.

So, if I must go to VET, could you tell me what kind of test I should do for my cats? I do not trust them at all.
 

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An urinalysis test is what you need. Given the high urine pH, it is most likely a case of struvite crystals. Urine pH should be 6.0-6.5. I don't know what you have available o you, but generally, a prescription food with the active ingredient methionine is used to acidify the urine. Some people have had success adding methionine to the food of their choice which involves checking their urine pH at home to ensure it doesn't drop below 6.0 which can cause other problems, but it sounds like you are able to do that. Other people have had success treating struvites with a wet diet high in meat. Meat is naturally acidifying, and moisture is very important to keep the system flushed out. Do not feed any dry food or any foods that are high in carbohydrates (grains, starchy vegetables, fruits, etc.).
 

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I am sorry to hear about the situation with the vets, and understand your predicament. Yes, your cat definitely needs a urinalysis to determine the type of infection or presence of crystals, and to rule out something more serious like kidney damage or possible problems with the urethra or prostate. If its possible, maybe you can locate a vet in another city or town close by to have these tests done? If your cat has not had any blood testing, it would be beneficial to get this done as well.

A grain and carb-free wet food diet high in protein is infinitely better for cats than dry as vball pointed out - and especially for males who are prone to urinary infections. Avoiding fish is also recommended as this can instigate bladder infections, but it sounds like they don't get much of this.

I wish you the best of luck with this, and hope that you are able to find a reliable vet.
 
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Hi vball91! Thank you for your reply! I think I know what to do now. I will change dry food to wet food and do the test.

Is Can Food good for cat? Here is the thing, my cats only eat beef and shrimp, because I live far from the sea, shrimp usually is not so fresh or dead long time. But beef is way too fat, I am afraid this will lead to other disease. Is there any way to get cat like eating fish and chicken?

Thanks again!
 

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Yes, generally canned food is much better for cats (more moisture, fewer carbs). I would not worry that much about beef being fatty. Cats can handle a high amount of fat, much more so than humans. You actually want high animal protein, moderate fat, low to no carbs. Fish is actually not very species-appropriate. You can try mixing a little chicken in with the beef and gradually increase the chicken.

I am not sure what you mean about the freshness of the shrimp? Are you feeding fresh shrimp, not canned?
 
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  • to oneandahalfcats: thanks again! I will try to find some other places vet to see if I can send sample to them to have test. And what kind of blood test do I need to do?


to vball91: yes, I am feeding fresh beef and shrimp to my cats. ANY kind of canned food they will eat, including chicken and fish, so I am afraid there are something like Phagostimulant, I do not know this is bad for them or what.

And, If I only feed meat and canned food like 'APPLAWS' to them, is it enough for their nutrition?

Thank you!!!
 

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You need to make sure the food is nutritionally complete. I can't remember right now, but I do not think Applaws is. If it says for supplemental feeding, it is not. If the fresh beef and shrimp are more than 15% of their diet, you will need to balance it with calcium and organs. The Raw and Home-cooked Cat Food forum can help you with that.
 

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  • to oneandahalfcats: thanks again! I will try to find some other places vet to see if I can send sample to them to have test. And what kind of blood test do I need to do?


to vball91: yes, I am feeding fresh beef and shrimp to my cats. ANY kind of canned food they will eat, including chicken and fish, so I am afraid there are something like Phagostimulant, I do not know this is bad for them or what.

And, If I only feed meat and canned food like 'APPLAWS' to them, is it enough for their nutrition?

Thank you!!!
A full blood panel will check for things like kidney, liver, thyroid and pancreas function but will also reveal red blood cell production and white blood cell count levels which, depending on the number found, may signal infection or inflammation, or more serious conditions such as kidney damage and some forms of cancer. I get a routine blood panel and urinalysis done every spring, in fact my cats will be going in soon, which helps greatly in giving an overview of a cat's general health, especially as they get older.

I think if more routine urinalysis were done, we might see less bladder infections. This is just a general comment and not directed at you.

Re. a balanced diet, its also important to ensure that Taurine is being added, or is an ingredient of the food(s) you are feeding now.
 
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