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post #31 of 47
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Originally Posted by mrsgreenjeens View Post

As t the texture, you can make anything into pate using either a Magic Bullet or Ninja type personal blender.  I use my Magic Bullet to turn Soulistic and Weruva  (with additional water or egg whites and whatever else I want to add) into pate because I have a licker just like you rolleyes.gif .  I don't understand it, because she will eat freeze dried treats just fine, but will only lick, and lick, and lick and lick her canned food.  Her brothers will be done for what seems like hours and she's still licking laughing02.gif
post #32 of 47
I wondered if you could do that with chunkier food. I have a licker as well as he only has 5 teeth and the NV has a courser texture that I don t think he likes. He can eat kibble but that is another story. He loves the Nutro Perfect Portions which are very lickable. Do you know if you could make a pate with just a blender?
post #33 of 47
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Originally Posted by psychomama View Post

I wondered if you could do that with chunkier food. I have a licker as well as he only has 5 teeth and the NV has a courser texture that I don t think he likes. He can eat kibble but that is another story. He loves the Nutro Perfect Portions which are very lickable. Do you know if you could make a pate with just a blender?

 

I think with a blender, you might have to add quite a bit of liquid for it to work. All I can say is try it and see.   BUT, what I have discovered is that with many cat foods, you can simply squish the chunks with the back of a spoon and they will almost "dissolve".  Doesn't work with certain foods, but does with others.   Works with Merrick, doesn't work with Fancy Feast. 

post #34 of 47
I know I tried it with FF . I hate foods with Carageen and most chunk types don't have it so I thought I could make my own pate. Guess I should invest in a food processor. What kind do you use?
post #35 of 47
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Originally Posted by psychomama View Post

I know I tried it with FF . I hate foods with Carageen and most chunk types don't have it so I thought I could make my own pate. Guess I should invest in a food processor. What kind do you use?


We NOW have a Ninja Kitchen System and use the individual "glass" to do it.  But used to use our Magic Bullet until we killed it from over use :lol3:.  It worked GREAT for this purpose.

post #36 of 47
Thanks!
post #37 of 47
What do you think about Nutro and Wellness brand foods.
post #38 of 47
I and my cats like nutro natural chunky chicken loaf it has no carageenan. Mine liked the core chicken & liver in the wellness but it has carageenan.
Edited by bonepicker - 1/6/16 at 4:22pm
post #39 of 47
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Originally Posted by psychomama View Post

What do you think about Nutro and Wellness brand foods.

 

Mine love Nutro...Chunky Chicken, Chunky Duck and Salmon, and Minced Turkey and Salmon, and Sliced Chicken and Tuna (or Tuna and Chicken, can't remember which anon.gif.  I'm very happy with the ingredients in Nutro.

 

Mine don't really care for Wellness, and depending on WHICH line of Wellness, I'm not too fond of the ingredients.  Core ingredients are fine, but some of the other lines have too many carbs for my taste

post #40 of 47
Thank you Mrs. Green jeans. So far all we ve tried is the perfect portions so I ll try the others. What are your thoughts on carrageen ? I know some of the Nutro has it as one of the ingredients and I ve been funny about giving him that.
post #41 of 47

It's very difficult to find canned food that multiple cat households eat.  I've tried so many higher end canned foods and most of them get rejected by the cats. My cats aren't always jazzed about gravy or broth either. Wellness turkey and turkey with salmon are the most consistently popular. The Wellness Core with the duck goes over well. Instinct Duck gets mostly eaten but sometimes not. I've tried several varieties of Blue Buffalo and that lasted for a hot minute before they stopped eating it.  I do rotate Fancy Feast as sides to the main attraction (the high end food). What I started doing several years ago is to serve one large 5.5 oz can and 2 3 ounce fancy feast classics of two different varieties and putting them on each cat's plate in their individual areas of the plate. For some reason the variety on the plate has largely been a winning combo.  They get breakfast, dinner and a snack at about 9 PM that rounds out to be about what each cat should eat in a day.

I do put out some kibble at night (about a 1/4 cup between several dishes) just in case someone gets super hungry. Two of the cats really would much rather have kibble than canned and the inclusion of the Fancy Feast is for them. Canned food that doesn't get eaten has no benefit for cats, so sometimes the rotation does include some of the types of canned that purists would gasp in horror that I use.

 

I have one cat that needs extra moisture so I started him on Primal and Stella and Chewy's because I could heat the water and make it much more soupy. The freeze dried raw isn't as wiggy as flat out raw. But he gets super tired of the same flavors. Scooter, the cat that was on the hunger strike here recently, also liked it.  To spark the interest in the freeze dried raw, I'll "dress" the food with a bit of freeze dried chicken crumbled up as a topper. Parmesan cheese can work too, but I never know when it will and won't.

 

I've used the Wellness pouches when I just want various cats to at least lick the broth up. When one of the kitties had dental work done, the Fancy Feast broth worked very well. I have been known to use that as a coaxing topper too. (One of my cats is like a ADHD squirrel).

 

I have six cats and so there's a difference in preference that they all have. Mixing it up is required. Right now they are hating the Fancy Feast so I've thrown some Nutro loaf style in, some Merricks, some Nature's Variety and Max Cat. The center piece is always the Wellness or something similar with the lower end stuff as "appetizers." I've found that once cats nibble on what they like, they are stimulated enough to eat the stuff that's good for them.

post #42 of 47
My cat also loves pates and is picky now:) although he will eat some chunky, here are his favorites and mine too for pates:

SHEBA... Super low price and really decent ingredients! Carrageenan, grain, high protein, etc free smile.gif

Wild Calling.... Very high quality and virtually nothing wrong with the ingredients. No artificial anything either! And decently priced

Nutro Natural Choice chunky loaf.... Like everyone else says this one is truly good and most cats really love it. Even picky eaters!
post #43 of 47
Anyone know the phosphorus in Sheba and Nutro Perfect Portions?
post #44 of 47

Depends on WHICH Nutro you are dishing up.   Each and every "flavor" is different.  Most are in the range of 1.5%, although the Senior Soft Loafs tend to run a little bit higher.

 

Sheba seems to be really stingy with their info.  You might try calling them, but we've had problems finding out in the past.  It seems to me I recall hearing once that they were around 1%, but can't verify that.

 

Do you have a kidney cat?  That chart referenced early on in this thread is GREAT for food for kidney cats, although its more updated here:  http://www.felinecrf.org/canned_food_usa.htm#canned_usa

post #45 of 47
No he has no kidney problems yet. I was just wondering as he really likes both those foods. I m not even sure there is a need to worry about phosphorus if the cat is healthy. He s 9 with great blood values.
post #46 of 47

We're very good with Blue Buffalo "WILDERNESS" varieties, which we buy auto-delivery, along with other brands and varieties, from our longtime favorite, DrsFosterSmith.com .  Their prices are excellent.  I like to have plenty of stock on food, so we never run out.  Their customer service is excellent (real humans, telephonically or online chat) and we love getting food delivered right to our door.

post #47 of 47

Two EXCELLENT online calculators:

 

To figure out phosphorus dry matter % (and protein, fat, etc).

http://fnae.org/dmb.html?inputboxm=78&inputboxi=0.25&button.x=49&button.y=23

 

Another to calculate carbohydrates and calories.

http://fnae.org/carbcalorie.html

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