No fever yet has diarrhea, went to vet he gave her Endosorb, antibiotics....

My cat is 17 years old and has a bout of diarrhea(No fever), when I took her to vet they gave her antibiotic shot, fluids under the skin, vitamin shot, etc. They could not get any stool from her though I have to take it to them Monday. I went on friday. They gave her Clavamix(antibiotic), and Endosorb. Endosorb is supposed to get rid of any toxins in her stomach and intestines. I have been giving her medications I started Friday night with Endosorb, and Saturday morning for Clavamix(Antibiotic). Her stool seemed to be a little runny with some sold stool in it sunday morning then the afternoon it was real runny, and the night also. I was feeding her can food and then I read to give her bland turkey, cause turkey has less fat than Chicken. It does not seem to be helping or do you think I should wait a couple more days to tell? I'm thinking of withholding food(only fluids) for 12 hours, do you think I should?  And i'm thinking of using immodium. I read a article and it said you can give her immodium. Please has anyone any advice? I have tried pumpkin in the past and she would not eat it. I think it is bad I can not get her diarrhea in control. I put a little water and mix some pedialyte together I hope this helps.  

Maybe it is to soon for the medications to work? And i should wait a couple days? I also give her Felovite 2 with Taurine, this vitamins the vet gave me. I was using nutri-cal before that. She still eats and drinks water out of her water fountain cause I put pedialyte I took out the filter though. I just started her on boiled turkey tonight, Sunday. I was giving her cat food though before  then. The vet never told me what to feed her I found that out from a vet on-line that turkey would be easier on her. Before I feed her baby food(chicken, turkey) I guess she got tired of baby food cause now she will not eat it anymore. 

Please some one give me some advice to use, I'm new at these forums.

Hi there, sorry to read that your kitty is having trouble. I wouldn't suggest to use anything like imodium or withhold food or water unless your vet has expressly given you the okay to do so. Diarrhea can be very dehydrating so it is important that your cat continue to take in fluids, especially. Sometimes bland chicken or turkey will work to firm things up, if not you could also try some pumpkin which is a soluable form of fibre, and mix this into some wet food. Hope your kitty is feeling better soon.

Sorry, I just re-read your post and see that you've tried pumpkin in the past, but was this for diarrhea? Sometimes mixing it in the wet food helps. You should probably check in with your vet if only to ask the questions you've posted here, and to update them on the situation.

Call the vet's office and explain that she's not any better and see what they recommend. 

Thank you for your advice, I have not with held any food I feed her boiled turkey. I have been giving her antibiotics and endosorb for 2 days I noticed her stool is runny again, should I wait until she finishes her medication before I assume it is not working? 

Honestly, I've never heard of using Turkey instead of Chicken for diarrhea.  But, I have heard that for diarrhea, to poach a chicken breast, then using that same water, boil up some white rice, and then shred the chicken and mix it with the rice and feed that mixture to your cat.   This is not 100% nutritionally complete for a cat, but will be ok to feed for a few days, and is very good to help with diarrhea.

She definitely needs to stay hydrated, so it's good she is continuing to drink from her fountain.  I think using the diluted pedialite is probably a good idea.  Is she tolerating the clavamox well?  That used to really make my old guy sick to his stomach

Your vet must suspect an infection or toxin of some kind to have prescribed the Endosorb and antibiotic, which should have shown some improvement by now if its been two days.

You should definitely follow up with your vet to let them know what's going on. They may have some thoughts and other suggestions for you - It could be that there is another cause for the diarrhea, and if so, you will want to take her back in sooner than later.

She should be showing some improvement by now, I would check with your vet to see what they recommend.

Hey, I have a question one time I left some food down for my cat. I left to go to doctor and some how a fly got in the house, and when I came back I noticed some fly eggs in the food.  If she ate it would it make her sick? I never did that again and never will. My house was closed up, and I had no ideal how this fly got in the house. Besides I only was gone a hour cause in the afternoon my doctor is not crowded. I probably should have picked up the food, but I was being rushed by my boyfriend. I'm sure you know how it is to be rushed sitting in the car and honking the horn over and over again. 

How is your kitty doing today Jacval60?

Re. the fly eggs in the food, was this wet food or dry food that the eggs were found in? Do you know whether your cat had eaten any of the food left out when you found the eggs?

To offer an answer, I don't think the fly eggs themselves could be harmful to your cat as cats have some pretty strong stomach acid with which to deal with them, but there is always the possibility that germs which the fly or flies that laid the eggs were carrying, could pose a health risk. My tuxedo will catch flies around the house and eat them. No worse than catching a mouse and eating it. Its always best to put any uneaten 'wet food' in the fridge for a next feeding rather than leaving it out, as along with the potential for insects and bugs getting into it, bacteria will form and the food can become rancid.

It was wet food, thanks for answering my question. I really appreciate it. 

It has been 5 days, and it seemed like my 17 year old cat was doing well, and now she is back to diarrhea again. At first it was a little runny yet it seemed that her stool was starting to form, now when I took her off bland turkey and put her back on cat food it started again. After being on antibiotics and endosorb for 5 days it should be clearing up no? What could possibly be going on? I 'm going to take her stool in tomorrow I was wondering if I should take fresh stool or if I can take stool I put in a bag and in the  refrigerator? I was wondering if it could be a parasite? I know we have problems with rats,and mice cause we live next to a field and a catering place. In fact all our neighbors live with rats and mice coming to their homes. I think the catering place does not throw away their food right and it a tracks these rats, mice. I have wanted to report them yet I could never find their address on the front of their business. There are over 100 catering trucks on their  property. And I know the field is owned by the electric company. In fact I have called the fire department numerous times about the fire hazard that field has. They have so many dried tumble weeds on their property. And they have only cleared it out once. There are also possums in the field. They have came in my back yard often. I live in a neighbor hood where there are a lot of illegal aliens from Mexico. And have heard that they like to eat the possums. I even saved a baby one from just that by giving them money for the possum. I went home called the Humane Society to see if they would take it back to the mountains and was told they no longer do that. That they euthanize them. I love all kinds of animals, I could just not bring myself to allow them to boil them alive. I had no choice but to let it go. I'm also wondering if she(cat) got a mouse with out me knowing? Maybe that is why she is sick. If so I should sue that catering place for causing all these rodents from coming around. I can imagine no one has gotten sick except maybe my cat. But if these rodents carry any diseases there is a chance some child might get sick.  Any suggestions? 

I checked it out on line about Bland chicken and  Bland turkey, and on a Vet's website she recommended turkey cause it only has 1% fat to chicken's 5% fat. It is easier on the digestive system, the lesser fat the easier it is to digest. That is why I got her turkey and boiled it I did put a little chicken Bouillon to give it some flavor. I noticed she did not like the dark meat on the turkey. Oh Great now I have to go back and buy some more white meat. I chop it up in my food processor and give it to her with the water I boiled it in. I used arrow head water to boil it in, I never give my cat faucet water cause it has fluoride and other things like chemicals in it.   If you google fluoride you will see what I mean. They get fluoride from a phosphate company in florida. It is scrapped off the stacks where the smoke comes out. And if the company had to get rid of it, they would have to pay a lot of money cause it is a toxic waste. Have you not noticed how they are trying to take away people's rights? Well the fluoride was added to dumb down the population. So they could take our rights away. And start a One World Government. 

A clue to me here is that the diarrhea started back up with the change in diet.  What cat food did you start back up feeding her?  Also, in answer to your other question, it's still possible that it's a parasite, so having her stool checked certainly can't hurt.  But it still seem like it may be food related.  I don't think I asked this before, but do you have her on a good probiotic? 

Okay here is what happened I'm pretty upset about it though. First time I took her in I was told I was to pay $185 this included $35 for testing her stool, and a shot for dehydration, vitamin shot and antibiotic,and endosorb, yet they took her in back and could not get any stool I was asked if i wanted to pay for the stool now and bring it(stool) in later then it cost with out stool sample $150. I told them I would bring in the money when I brought in her stool. After 4 days her stool started looking like it was starting to form a little runny though. I figured she was getting better after all I was giving her clavamox(antibiotic) and endosorb for toxin in her stomach and intestines. Then after 5 days she started with the Diarrhea(runny again) so Friday morning I took the stool in and was told by some other person it would be $25 so they tried to charge me $35 the first time i went for the same tests on her stool. Saturday morning they called and said there is nothing wrong with her stool, how they could say that when I brought it in it was runny like water. And they said there is nothing more we can do for her, cause her stool came out negative. I can not believe it, this morning(sunday) at 1:30 am she went and it was runny still, then 5 minutes later she tried to make it to the litter box but could not and messed all over the floor. What incompetent vets they are. I would like to know who I can report them to. For making me pay that money and she is still sick. Right now I can not afford anymore money until next month. I'm on disability, and if I would have took her on the first of the month I could have afford more. Right now my mortgage cost $1,100 a month. In fact my husband and my son and I are on disability. My husband can no longer work. And they do not give him much money like he did when he worked. Now I do not know what else to do. It seemed like all they wanted was the money and then they washed their hands of the whole thing. What am I to do now? Just sit and watch her get sicker?

I put her back on Fancy feast, I was also feeding her bland turkey a vet on-line said turkey was better for sick cats cause it only had 1% fat to 5% to chicken. I had tried to change her to a better cat food(Blue Buffalo) in the past and she will not eat it. I changed her gradually from Fancy feast to Blue Buffalo. That is all she will eat she is 17 years old and to set in her ways.

jacval60 said:

Okay here is what happened I'm pretty upset about it though. First time I took her in I was told I was to pay $185 this included $35 for testing her stool, and a shot for dehydration, vitamin shot and antibiotic,and endosorb, yet they took her in back and could not get any stool I was asked if i wanted to pay for the stool now and bring it(stool) in later then it cost with out stool sample $150. I told them I would bring in the money when I brought in her stool. After 4 days her stool started looking like it was starting to form a little runny though. I figured she was getting better after all I was giving her clavamox(antibiotic) and endosorb for toxin in her stomach and intestines. Then after 5 days she started with the Diarrhea(runny again) so Friday morning I took the stool in and was told by some other person it would be $25 so they tried to charge me $35 the first time i went for the same tests on her stool. Saturday morning they called and said there is nothing wrong with her stool, how they could say that when I brought it in it was runny like water. And they said there is nothing more we can do for her, cause her stool came out negative. I can not believe it, this morning(sunday) at 1:30 am she went and it was runny still, then 5 minutes later she tried to make it to the litter box but could not and messed all over the floor. What incompetent vets they are. I would like to know who I can report them to. For making me pay that money and she is still sick. Right now I can not afford anymore money until next month. I'm on disability, and if I would have took her on the first of the month I could have afford more. Right now my mortgage cost $1,100 a month. In fact my husband and my son and I are on disability. My husband can no longer work. And they do not give him much money like he did when he worked. Now I do not know what else to do. It seemed like all they wanted was the money and then they washed their hands of the whole thing. What am I to do now? Just sit and watch her get sicker?

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Hi jacval60 .. First of all, I am very sorry to hear that the vets weren't able to find the cause of the diarrhea. I would hope that the testing of the stool was done properly and has ruled out the possibility of parasites at least. Did they tell you or give you a report of what they tested for? As for what you were charged for testing the stool, it does sound like a reasonable amount but sometimes staff can get it wrong when it comes to charging the right amount. This has happened at my vet clinic a couple of times and it comes down to a simple error, or the wrong amount being in the system if they are on a computerized system. Not an excuse but a possible explanation? The amount was less than you were told initially, which is good

The vets should not be washing their hands of this however, as something is still very wrong. It does sound from what you have explained about the food changes, that the diarrhea could be food related as mrsgreenjeens mentioned earlier in this thread. It could be the type of food or an ingredient in the food that your cat is not digesting or tolerating well. I am not clear on what you are giving her now. Is it the Blue Buffalo or Fancy Feast, and which kind? You mentioned that you served Blue Buffalo in the past. Was this the canned or dry food and what flavor did you serve? One other thing to consider is food contamination which can trigger all kinds of digestive upset and introduce toxins in the system. Something in a can or bag of food that is making her sick but then the stool sample should have also ruled this out?

When you fed her the boiled turkey, you reported that there was improvement. I would return to feeding her boiled chicken breast (which is very lean) if you can, and also try some canned pumpkin (straight puree not pie mix) again but this time put a bit in with the chicken and see if she will eat it. Keeping her on this food is important until she is completely free of the diarrhea, or the cause of the diarrhea has been determined.

As a last thought, I know you have said that money is tight right now but if it is possible to contact another vet clinic or your local rescue shelter and explain the situation, you might be able to get another perspective and some fresh ideas on what is going on with her. I would also suggest getting a copy of the stool results from your current vet in case the next vet clinic needs to see it.

Please keep us updated on this situation.

I am under the impression that she is NOW eating Fancy Feast again, and would like to say that the Fancy Feast CLASSICS are not a bad food.  I'm speaking of canned food, not the kibble.  If you are feeding kibble, or anything other than the Fancy Feast CLASSIC line, it's very possible your furbaby is having problems with the wheat gluten or another grain in the food. 

I agree with oneandahalfcats that you actually lucked out on the deal with only being charged $25 vs $35 for the stool sample, and my guess is that it was clear from common parasites, which is why they needed it in the first place.   This doesn't mean she doesn't have an uncommon "bug" that takes special testing (and much higher cost) to check for, and doesn't mean she doesn't have IBD or something else going on, but I would definitely take it to mean she doesn't have worms or the common parasites.  However, I would call them back during working hours just to make sure exactly what they checked it for.  When they said there was nothing else they could do, were you talking to the front desk person, or did you ask to talk to the Vet?  I would definitely leave a message for the Vet and tell them what is going on, that the Endosorb didn't stop the Diarrhea, etc. and that you cannot afford to bring her back in at the moment, what do they suggest, etc. 

I have another question for you...in your initial post you indicated you fed her baby food.  How long did you do that?  Were you doing that as her only food for quite some time, or was this only as an occasional treat?  The reason I ask is that baby food is not nutritionally complete for a cat, and also, not all baby food is good for cats.  Was it meat only baby food?  Stage 1 or 2,  I believe? 

I remember that I had gave her some chicken that day before she had the runs again, I noticed today her stool looked a little runny but there was some normal stool forming in it today. Do you think cause i gave her chicken that would have caused it? I usually get a Tv dinner with chicken in it and love to share it with her, yet she never got the runs from it before. First I make sure there is no garlic in it, or onions cause I know it is supposed to be bad for your pets. You should see her when she sees the dish she meows real loud she knows it is for her. It is so cute when she does this. I have been spending all kinds of money for vitamins on-line for her one I liked is called Spark for cats and dogs all Natural ingredients like Spirilina, wheat grass it had over 30 different ingredients. At first I thought she might be a diabetic cause she was always hungry and set next to her water fountain all the time I even bought Blood sugar gold from Pet Well being. I'm diabetic also so I thought the symptoms were similar. The only thing wrong it smelled like maple syrup, and I read of one of the ingredients it had smelled like maple syrup. She would not take it in her food though. Thank goodness cause I was wrong. It was the stool all along. She has a litter box, yet prefers to go in the back yard. The only time she uses it is when she is locked in the house. I even planted wheat grass in the back yard for her, she eats a lot of grass. She has a problem with hair balls, I have tried combing her and it seems there is no end to her shedding. Yet she has been like that for years, even in cold weather she sheds. I have tried Salmon oil in her food, got from pet wellbeing on line. The only vitamins she will take are the ones the vet gave me or the ones in the toothpaste tube. I'm thinking she probably has a real sensitive stomach? I want to give her some prebiotics & Probiotics the one I want is the one from Petco, I have a car I actually bought it for my son he wanted it and I thought if i get it he will probably get out of the house when he learns to drive. That never happened, he is I think he has panic attacks when he goes out. I do not drive yet Louie does and he drives my car and to get a ride from him is terrible. Petco is 2 cities over. Probably have to buy it on-line. I bought some probiotics from GNC vitamin store about 1 year ago for her there is some left do you think it can be expired? There is no date on it. I don't want to give it if it expired.

I thank you for all the help and advice you are giving me. I used to be signed up with Yahoo answers and they would put me down for asking question about anything. There are some weird people out there.


Thank you again you are a life saver.

She went again and it was runny again. I do not know what to do? I've tried every thing. I'm at my wits end, no chicken this time just her cat food and it seemed like she was doing better before and now runs again. What could be this mystery? This does not make since, why they checked her stool and nothing and it seems she is doing better than she goes back to it again. I have giving her nothing but her cat food. No chicken no treats. Not even dry food. I gave her some more of endosorb right after she had the runny stool. I think it is time to investigate some more on the inter-net. Can not call the Vet until tomorrow anyway. I do not even know what they tested for, I had called and the person who answers, said I could not talk to the vet cause he is to busy. That was Saturday morning. Wait until they check their comments on Yelp. I wrote that they were incompetent vets. Maybe I will ask to speak to the head vet. Or maybe I'll call his son and tell him what they are doing over there. His son has his own veterinarian office also. I have been going to him for years. Then I changed to his father, who has other vets working for him. I changed to his father cause the last time I went to his son, he put a thermomitor in her rear and walked off and she almost sat down on it. Lucky I took it out, he went out to talk on his cell phone. I'm just upset cause I paid money and she is still not better. It is like throwing away money. It seems she only goes at night.

There are a few possibilities.  She could have something like irritable bowel or inflammatory bowel.  She could have some sort of deficiency in her diet causing the diarrhea.  At the vet I work at we just had a kitten who has been through all sorts of testing, we are now trying different things to see if we can't pin point what is going on, the first thing we did was put her on a high fiber diet.  Not even a few days later and her diarrhea was gone.  So something like that is a possibility.  Could be something like because she is so old she may have a malabsorption problem and may need digestive enzymes to help her digest her food properly.  I would get a 2nd opinion at a different vet if possible.  Did she have another type of infection?  I am just wondering why they gave her Clavamox.  Metronidazole is usually the standard treatment for diarrhea.  Maybe ask them about that.  This website may be of some assistance to you:  http://ibdkitties.net/