First kitten in Egypt with very little options.

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Hey all, I have a new kitten thats 3 month old. Her breed is persian. I need help with knowing how I should feed her. Her previous family basically fed her 4 table spoons of purina cat food over the day and left her dry food plate there. I kept trying to find the best quality food possible and the best that I can find in Egypt with sadly no option of shipping is Royal Chain. I dont know what options I can have for wet food aswell..

http://petshopegypt.com/en/7-cat-food

This website is basically all my options. It has the best food you can get in Egypt. Can you recommend a good diet for me to use? I am feeding her Purina fine cuts poultry that comes in the form of jelly and her dry food. She eats 4 table spoons , we also feed her some cheese. She has been here for 3 days now. I have kept purina since I will need until she gets used to her new food. I am horribly new at this. Can you please tell me If you were in my position what would you got for her from this website? How much of it would you feed her? I was thinking about raw food BUT I cant find any supplements for her D:. I dont know if just raw food with bone grinding will be enough or healthy for her. Shes like my little baby ( lol) and I am just lost thinking about options..
 

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Unfortunately the site doesn't list ingredients so I don't think anyone in the U.S. can help.  It looks like they are brands from Europe so hopefully one of our member from Europe can help.  There are several people here from Europe who are knowledgeable about the various brands so you should get some answers.
 

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I am sorry but I am not familiar with the Mira brand of food.  

It is a shame you are not able to have Roayl Canin shipped in as they offer a kitten food which would have a better nutritional balance for your growing kitten.  

It does look like the Purina pouches have a reasonable percentage of protien in, and from animal sources so from you options the Purina wet food is probably a good one.  There will be other members in Egypt who might be able to advise you on what they have found.

With the raw feeding see what those who do this recommend but from what I have seen it is not adviseable if you are not able to add the necessary suppliments.  Given your kitten's age I think it would be better to stick with the commerncially available food to get the essential protein, fat and other mineral and vitamin balances that are essential for growth, at least for the time being.
 

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With the raw - if you can get some sort of muscle meat such as hearts, along with liver, and kidney you may be able to work something out. One style of raw feeding - Prey Model Raw is sometimes fed without any supplements. In fact there are purists out there who insist on not using any supplements. This method, PMR, does not need a grinder. For bone content, if you can not find any you can use egg shell powder. 

What you can possibly do is feed her wet food from Purina, and then a couple meals of raw on some days - head over to the raw section and I'm sure someone can help you!
 

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I agree with Pinkman about raw food option (sorry, don't know enough about wet food to advise you).
If you can source protein (meat/poultry [not fish]), liver and kidney I think Prey Model Raw (frankenprey) is a viable alternative. Liver and kidney do not have to be from the same animal. Supplements can be as simple as an egg and sardine a couple of times a week. I sometimes give Ritz part of a cooked egg yolk, and fish oil about two or three times a week. But I personally don't think it's mandatory.
What kinds of meat can you readily find in Egypt.
 

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Hey all, I have a new kitten thats 3 month old. Her breed is persian. I need help with knowing how I should feed her. Her previous family basically fed her 4 table spoons of purina cat food over the day and left her dry food plate there. I kept trying to find the best quality food possible and the best that I can find in Egypt with sadly no option of shipping is Royal Chain. I dont know what options I can have for wet food aswell..

http://petshopegypt.com/en/7-cat-food

This website is basically all my options. It has the best food you can get in Egypt. Can you recommend a good diet for me to use? I am feeding her Purina fine cuts poultry that comes in the form of jelly and her dry food. She eats 4 table spoons , we also feed her some cheese. She has been here for 3 days
now. I have kept purina since I will need until she gets used to her new food. I
am horribly new at this. Can you please tell me If you were in my position what would you got for her from this website? How much of it would you feed her? I was thinking about raw food BUT I cant find any supplements for her D:. I dont know if just raw food with bone grinding will be enough or healthy for her. Shes like my little baby ( lol) and I am just lost thinking about options..
I see you don't have much choice of wet food but there is special dry food for persian kittens. Purina is good as is royal canin.
I'm not into raw food at all. But that's just me.
Any case good luck. Salaam.
 

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Unfortunately the site doesn't list ingredients so I don't think anyone in the U.S. can help.  It looks like they are brands from Europe so hopefully one of our member from Europe can help.  There are several people here from Europe who are knowledgeable about the various brands so you should get some answers.
As far as I know royal canin is Canadian. I'll have to look at my purina to see where it's made.
 

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I am sorry but I am not familiar with the Mira brand of food.  

It is a shame you are not able to have Roayl Canin shipped in as they offer a kitten food which would have a better nutritional balance for your growing kitten.  

It does look like the Purina pouches have a reasonable percentage of protien in, and from animal sources so from you options the Purina wet food is probably a good one.  There will be other members in Egypt who might be able to advise you on what they have found.

With the raw feeding see what those who do this recommend but from what I have seen it is not adviseable if you are not able to add the necessary suppliments.  Given your kitten's age I think it would be better to stick with the commerncially available food to get the essential protein, fat and other mineral and vitamin balances that are essential for growth, at least for the time being.
I agree 100% with Mservant.
 
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Should I not replace her purina frisikies dry food with royal canin thou? Until I look more into the raw option since I am able to get this certain product from Royal canin " http://petshopegypt.com/en/kitten-f...an-kitten-32-dry-food-2-kg-3182550721219.html"

and to confirm my understanding " weak english". I should get the purina pouches for time being for wet food. Is one pouch a day good enough for her?
 
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I am sorry but I am not familiar with the Mira brand of food.  

It is a shame you are not able to have Roayl Canin shipped in as they offer a kitten food which would have a better nutritional balance for your growing kitten.  

It does look like the Purina pouches have a reasonable percentage of protien in, and from animal sources so from you options the Purina wet food is probably a good one.  There will be other members in Egypt who might be able to advise you on what they have found.

With the raw feeding see what those who do this recommend but from what I have seen it is not adviseable if you are not able to add the necessary suppliments.  Given your kitten's age I think it would be better to stick with the commerncially available food to get the essential protein, fat and other mineral and vitamin balances that are essential for growth, at least for the time being.
I am able to get that royal canin actually for dry food its on the web site. Is it good enough? isnt dry food rly bad? should i use it until i can use raw?
 

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It's better to stick with wet food.  http://catinfo.org  is a good general guide on cat food.  Even cheaper low quality wet food is better than any dry food.
 

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Wet food is best for most of her diet. The pouches should offer a feeding guideline. Assuming they are 3 ounces each, I think you should plan on offering her one full pouch at each meal. As a kitten, she may need a 3rd. Dry food contributes to dehydration in cats. Offering her some dry though to get her through in-between meal times is okay, but you don't want that to be the majority of her diet. It it is possible, you would want a 100% wet food diet.
 

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I would agree that sticking with the wet food is better.  If there is no wet food for kittens I would carry on with what you are doing while you look at the advice you have been given here and find out what you can get where you live if you want to move over to the raw feeding.

If you are worried your cat will get hungry when you are not in and want to add dry in between main meals, or want to give your cat treats you could use a small pack of kitten kibble to put down a small bowl and leave plenty fresh water near by, and throw kibble or hand feed as treats.  Keep the amounts of kibble small so main food source is wet.

As for the amounts of wet food, you follow the guidelines on any packet in accordance with your kitten's weight like lauraG advises.  If you want to start adding in some raw and transitioning to this frankenprey system you will find lots of advice on how to do it in the Raw sections in Nutrition.  Again I would keep to the wet food you are giving just now and gradually change over.  The members who have experience with it will be more than happy to help you work out the quantities to transition your kitten over or balance with the commercial food you are using.  The raw diets do seem to be popular, particularly with cats who have allergies or food intollerances, and for maintaining good dental health. 
 

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I am able to get that royal canin actually for



it good enough? isnt dry food rly bad? should i use it until i can use raw?
I understand what everybody is saying here but I would like to say have brought up 8 cats with only dry food and have never had any problem with it. No dehydration as they drink drink plenty of water.
 
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The pouch she eats one over a day. She barley finishes that 1 pouch like that. Is she supposed to eat 1 pouch per meal or 1 table spoon per meal ? One pouch is 3 oz and she eats it over a day. If she finishes it.
 

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The pouch she eats one over a day. She barley finishes that 1 pouch like that. Is she supposed to eat 1 pouch per meal or 1 table spoon per meal ? One pouch is 3 oz and she eats it over a day. If she finishes it.
If she'll eating dry in addition to the 1 pouch of wet per day, then she's getting full on the dry kibble. And yes you're correct, dry kibble isn't really good for them. An all wet diet is better.
 

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I do not see any reference to you feeding her dry just now, but giving her some cheese.  Many cats do not digest milk / dairy products well and it would be better to swap the cheese for another meat of poultry snack. If I am right she has only been with you for about 3 or 4 days and it might be that she is just settling in with you. She should start to eat more food so try to increase the amount of wet food she is getting from the pouches, or adding in some raw like has been suggested.  I hope she settles well and you manage to get her to eat a bit more and see her playing and running around like a little kitten should.
 

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It's too bad the website doesn't show much information beyond the brand, volume, and flavor of cat food.

In that case I would go with wet food over dry. Friskies is known as a budget but decent food in the U.S., but it looks like they have the morsels and not pate style. Pates are in general high in protein content.

If you have the time and desire, it might be worth it to learn raw/homecooked feeding since your options are so limited. TCS has a wonderful raw/homecooked forum, the members there will be more than happy to get you started. Their expertise is truly mind boggling.
 

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I agree that wet food is better than dry, especially for a young cat, but if you have to leave her alone during the day, you can maybe give her a bowl of dry to snack on. As a brand, Purina is better than Friskies, and Royal Canin is better than either, if you can afford it because it is expensive. All these cat foods contain supplements, and a healthy kitten sh9uld not need any more. One thing you could do is give her a daily tablespoon of natural Greek style yoghurt or unsalted cream cheese, preferably made from goat or sheep milk. That would help her calcium intake, but stop if it makes her have runny poo.
 

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 giving her some cheese.  Many cats do not digest milk / dairy products well and it would be better to swap the cheese for another meat of poultry snack.
Its cow milk which is difficult for many cats.  Cow milk products, like youghurt (plain, unsweetened) and cheese are easier for cats.

Goat milk is even better.  :)
 
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