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My cat who just recently had kittens, about 3 weeks ago, keeps urinating and defecating all over the place. I've taken her to the vet and there is nothing wrong with her. At this point im just kind of done with it, I really want to keep my cat but she's dirty, I cant take it anymore, its disgusting. I woke up to go pee and i step on my carpet and she messed all over it, my other cat never ever does that, I don't get it, she's well fed shes a nice cat but it cant handle that
 
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Is her litter box near to her kittens? If the box is too close she won't use it because she is worried that predators might smell her and then find the babies. Giving her a choice of litter boxes in other rooms might help.

How is her relationship with your other cat? Does the other cat go into the room where her kittens are? She might be trying to mark out some territory to let the other cat know she or he has to stay away.
 
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The litter is nowhere near the kittens, the two cats have used the same litter fine for 2 months, she just does it to do it you know?

I realized in my first post I seem aggressive but Im not, I've done everything to help this cat, I've taken her in, I've given her good food and I take very well care of her, but you cannot help a cat who does not want to be helped. I really love this cat but on the other hand I shouldn't have to worry that my house is going to be destroyed by a cat with issues.

My other cat does not do any of these things and she never has.

And if my cat doesn't even use her litter anymore, well how will she even show her kittens what to do?
 
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im just extremely frustrated because I feel like its a slap in the face each time she's done it, its upsetting because I'm usually amazing with animals and this never happends.
 

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Are both adult cats using the same litterbox? Has she seen a vet to rule out physical reasons?
 

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I am no expert but from what I have read on TCS there really should be multiple boxes. The golden rule is the number of cats + 1. So since you have two (not counting the kittens) there should be three boxes. 

Is momma cat and the kittens isolated from the other cat? Even if you can't have three boxes, it probably is a good idea to have momma cat her own box, closer to her own space. 

Just some ideas - hopefully someone else with more experience can help you. :)
 

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The litter is nowhere near the kittens, the two cats have used the same litter fine for 2 months, she just does it to do it you know?

I realized in my first post I seem aggressive but Im not, I've done everything to help this cat, I've taken her in, I've given her good food and I take very well care of her, but you cannot help a cat who does not want to be helped. I really love this cat but on the other hand I shouldn't have to worry that my house is going to be destroyed by a cat with issues.

My other cat does not do any of these things and she never has.

And if my cat doesn't even use her litter anymore, well how will she even show her kittens what to do?
She is not doing it "just to do it". There's a problem somewhere....you need to find out what's going on. The ONLY way that she can tell you there's something wrong is by peeing outside of the box. She can't talk. You can't understand her. But there's a problem.

Is your other cat a male or a female? Either way, you should probably give your new mama and her kittens a place of their own for a while in their own room, if you can. The mama could feel threatened right now by the other cat. It's instinctive; that's simply the way it is. She may not have peed out of the box before. But her life has changed right now....she's a mom. And she's worried.

Pinkman is right; 1 box per cat, plus one box. And scoop, Scoop at least twice a day, more if you have time. Keep a box in the same room where she and her kittens are located. And keep the other cat away for a while at least until the kittens are a few weeks older.

As for teaching the kittens where to pee? Most moms are really good about helping to train their kittens. But there are things you can do, too, to help. When the kittens are old enough, you need a very small litter pan with sides about two inches tall, if that. Place each kitten in the pan and gently(!) take their front paw and paw through the litter. Do this after every feeding, whether they're on kitten food or still nursing from mom. Do this after their naps. Do this after a good playing session. Do it often....between you and what they get from mom, they'll get the hang of it. Don't do it until they're ready. 
 

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I also just briefly looked at your other posts. You also have a dog too? Does he/she also have free access to momma cat? If so - there might be a lot of tension going on. If you have to, do isolate momma and her kittens in your room with a litter box. Not the most ideal but to be honest, if you scoop often enough there is no smell. This is from experience. :)

Good luck!
 

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good morning...ive spoken to a professional "animal behavioural specialist" over morning coffee.she believes your mama cat COULD be having a sort of separation anxiety when she has to use the litterbox, as she must leave the kittens too far away for her own comfort.suggestion is to sort of isolate mama and babies to their own area, with her very own litterbox.also if you are able, buy a (diffuser and the product that calms cats through pheromones(?) aromatherapy(?) let me explain im just an ol country boy who hasnt made up his mind as to the "usefulness" of my coffee buddys big, fancy education. she sure has been in college a long time, recently got her phd and now will be working in that field at the university in manhattan kansas.anyhow that was her first thoughts on your troubles based on the info she read...pls be patient with her and the kittens.she didnt start peeing n pooping outside the box just to make you mad.i sure hope ol "doc" gave some good advice.have a pleasant day.
 
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Just the answer I was looking for. It's just very stressful for me, let alone the cat. I took her in as a stray, being nice as I am. Is it weird that she pees and poops on a specific carpet?
 
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He just said she was healthy, which she is. She's a very happy cat.

And cats can very well be dirty, my neighboor took in a stray and it peed every where and destroyed her couches.

To me; a cat who is extremely healthy and seems to be very well happy, and still continues to pee and poop around the house is a dirty cat.
 
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I love this cat a lot, and I've had her for 2/3 months now. But all she has been doing is causing me problems. Since I figured out she was pregnant ive done nothing but treat her like royalty, I've given up my whole room, I haven't slept in my own bed for 3 weeks because she's in there and she gives me looks when I want to sleep in my bed, I understand you have to take care of a cat but not to the point where my house smells of cat pee, and that she's kicked me out of my own room
 

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as for you taking in a stray/abandoned cat...you are an angel. from my coffee conversation i gathered as well that female cats mark their turf too and may be warning other animals away, or leaving scent for the kittens.again...you are a great person for taking her in.
 

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Just the answer I was looking for. It's just very stressful for me, let alone the cat. I took her in as a stray, being nice as I am. Is it weird that she pees and poops on a specific carpet?
Actually, that's not odd. Unless you're using and enzyme cleaner to break down the urine every time she does it, she's likely still able to smell it and associates that carpet as a place to pee. Where is the carpet? You could try getting a box and putting it on top of the carpet, since she's going there already. You can also try something like Cat Attract litter, although you'll need to be careful that the kittens can't get to it and eat it. It may actually be that one spot that she feels is a 'good' spot for her.
 
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I also just briefly looked at your other posts. You also have a dog too? Does he/she also have free access to momma cat? If so - there might be a lot of tension going on. If you have to, do isolate momma and her kittens in your room with a litter box. Not the most ideal but to be honest, if you scoop often enough there is no smell. This is from experience. :)

Good luck!
If you have a dog as well, no wonder mama is stressed.  I'm thinking that is one stressed-out little girl! A new mom with another cat and a dog in the house! She is worried about predators. And you may not think the other cat is a predator....but she doesn't know any better. She really doesn't. Definitely isolate the mama cat and kittens, if only for a few weeks. And again, Pinkman is right. If you scoop regularly, there is no smell.

In fact, there's a litter box in our bedroom 24/7. I scoop in the morning and again at night....on weekends when I'm home, I may scoop three times. IMO, a litter box can never be too clean.

We kept Whisper and her five kittens in an old laundry basket with blankets for bedding....we kept the basket in our bedroom with us at night and would shut the door so our male cat couldn't get in the bedroom.. Whisper would go in the basket to be with her babies, but the she'd jump into the bed with us for a nap throughout the night. If the kittens started to fuss, she'd leave the bed and jump back in the basket. We had a litter box in the bedroom for her, along with her food and water. She moved the kittens one time, about 2-3 days after they were born; she took each one under a bureau in the bedroom and they stayed there for a couple of days....she needed to get them away from the birthing fluids, again she was protecting them from any predators. We replaced the old "birthing" blanket with fresh bedding and then we brought the kittens back to the basket. She never moved them again. 

I wouldn't worry about her glaring at you when you go to bed. Keep the door shut and she'll calm down, even with you in the room with her. I don't know that she's kicked you out of your room; it really looks like you kicked yourself out! 


And as Varmint mentioned, the Feliway diffusers can be a good idea. Personally (and this is just me), we never had a lot of luck with them, but I do know many people who did use them and the diffusers helped their cats.

Bless you for taking her in and taking care of her and her kittens. I can honestly tell you that having Whisper and her kittens grow up in our house was truly one of the most blessed things we could have ever done. Watching those kids grow up and become cats was amazing, even with them going through their "teenaged" years, especially with Ms. Pepe who was Trouble from day one. I cannot tell you how much we enjoyed them. We still have two of them. BooBoo and Ms. Pepe will turn 18 years old in February....they're the remaining "kittens" from that litter.
 
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Actually, that's not odd. Unless you're using and enzyme cleaner to break down the urine every time she does it, she's likely still able to smell it and associates that carpet as a place to pee. Where is the carpet? You could try getting a box and putting it on top of the carpet, since she's going there already. You can also try something like Cat Attract litter, although you'll need to be careful that the kittens can't get to it and eat it. It may actually be that one spot that she feels is a 'good' spot for her.
The carpet is like infront of my toilet.
 
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Actually, that's not odd. Unless you're using and enzyme cleaner to break down the urine every time she does it, she's likely still able to smell it and associates that carpet as a place to pee. Where is the carpet? You could try getting a box and putting it on top of the carpet, since she's going there already. You can also try something like Cat Attract litter, although you'll need to be careful that the kittens can't get to it and eat it. It may actually be that one spot that she feels is a 'good' spot for her.
The thing is, I don't want to have to go after her and buy 300 $ worth of products just because she's got an issue, isn't there a way to just get her not to crap on my bathroom carpet, it really wasn't lovely stepping in it
 

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Is it a rug that you can throw in the washer? That would clean it better then spot cleaning. If it's wall to wall, at least it won't be too expensive to replace, you could buy a remnant. Walmart or any big store has enzyme cleaners for 5.00 - 10.00 a bottle, sometimes 3.99! I would bet she is going there because she smells urine there, which you are going to have no matter how careful you (mostly men) are if you have carpet in your bathroom. We have remodeled many houses that reeked of urine in front of the toilet. First of all I would DEFINITELY change the litter and the box you have it in, maybe try even sand, there MUST be something she doesn't like about the litter or the box.She may calm down after a little time passes, I've had cats do that when they are upset with something and she may be just stressed out after having the kittens. If at all possible put her in a room by herself (and of course her kittens) and a litterbox to see if she'll start using it. There IS a reason, cats are not spiteful and do not do things like this on purpose. Bless you for trying, good luck!
 
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