Dry food with no poultry, fish or rabbit?

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Does anyone know of any dry cat food that does not contain poultry, fish, or rabbit? My cats are allergic to chicken and (probable) fish and have been on a rabbit diet but lately their symptoms have been getting worse so I think they may be allergic to the rabbit food also now.

I'd like to try another food without these ingredients but I am having so much trouble finding anything. Some people say to avoid chicken fat and eggs also but not sure about that. I tried Addiction Viva la Venison but it does have chicken fat and I could only get some of my cats to eat it anyway.

I do give them canned food also but only two of them eat any canned foods at all, and one only will eat canned if it's Instinct rabbit and even then he mostly just licks off the juice and leaves the food.
 

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I thought there were some lamb-based LID dry foods. . .but I went looking and I guess not! The only one I could find that doesn't have any poultry or fish is Wysong Anergen. And there don't seem to be any beef-based dry cat foods. There are a few more options in canned foods.
 

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Royal Canin makes a prescription dry that is Venison and Pea (PV.)

Natural Balance also makes a Venison and Green Pea formula (although I find this food harder than most other dry foods.)

If you are not concerned about grain-free, ProPlan makes a Lamb and Rice formula; but, I would contact the company to see how they clean their equipment before making different flavors. The proteins you mention are not included in the ingredient list.
 

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Oops, I looked up the Wysong site and Anergen does have fish meal as the second ingredient :(. So nevermind on that one. I can't find any info on Natural Balance having a venison formula in dry cat food: http://www.naturalbalanceinc.com/pr...LID+Limited+Ingredient+Diets+Dry+Cat+Formulas

It looks like the Pro Plan would be easiest to find. . .the ingredients aren't great though :/. Have you considered a homemade diet?
 
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Oh yeah I would like to stick to grain free also, they're always been on grain free and so I don't know which grains they might be allergic to.
 

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ZiwiPeak makes lamb and venison "air dried" cat foods. They contain green lipped mussel, however. Not sure if this would be a problem.

And, yes, the Royal Canin Hypoallergenic Selected Protein PV Feline is their venison - prescription only.
 
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I tried both flavors of Ziwipeak a few years ago, none of the cats would touch it! I ended up having to use it for dog treats. :p
I didn't realize Royal Canin had a venison version, I'll have to check the ingredients. I'm feeding them the Royal Canin rabbit allergy food right now.

If I can't find a better option I thought maybe trying to find a food that only has one type of fish, since I don't know for sure if they have fish allergies or to what type. My vet just recommended to avoid fish as it's a common one and they seem to be allergic to a lot of things.
My other idea was to try a different carb source, to see if maybe that is what is triggering their allergies in the current food. It seems like most grain free dry foods do contain peas, though.
 
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The only other commercial food I can think of is one that uses hydrolyzed proteins, where it takes out the part that the cat would be allergic to. But from what I've read and heard, they're not all that palatable and the ingredients not so great. It's possible that peas are a problem, too. Rayne Clinical Nutrition makes a rabbit and sweet potato dry food (and various novel protein wet foods) - prescription only.

Have you tried raw? I don't feed raw, but others have claimed that an allergy to commercial rabbit or chicken would not present a problem when fed raw. 


Lots of hugs for you for your patience and determination in helping your kitties.  
 
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Yeah I thought of trying a hydrolyzed protein food but like you said they don't seem to have very good ingredients, so I wasn't sure about that option...

My vet did not recommend using raw right now because 3 of my cats are on Atopica which is an immune suppressant and this could cause them to be more susceptible to bacteria that can be present in raw. I did try a sample of raw before they were on the Atopica, but I could not get any of them to eat it so I think it would be very difficult to switch them also-- they refused to touch it. I even tried warming it up a little and finally I cooked it just to see if they'd eat it then. They didn't seem to think it was food at all. They're the same way with most "people" food so a homemade diet would probably be difficult to do too. Two of them won't even touch canned. I don't know why since they were weaned on canned food. :/ If I could get them all on canned it would be easier because there are more option in canned but no matter what I've tried, the other two just won't touch the stuff!

I've been looking to see what's available that is grain free and doesn't have pea in it but that's also hard to find! So far I've only really found this food:

GreatLife Salmon

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Wild Salmon, Tapioca, Jicama, Suncured Alfafa Meal, Yams, Blueberries, Cranberries, Freeze Dried Raw Ingredients: (Green Lipped Mussel, Pumpkin, Papaya, Sprouted Chia Seed, Kale Sprouts), Enzymes (Amylase, Protease, Cellulase, Pectinase, Lipase, Phytase, Xylanese, Hemicellulase, Alpha-galactosidase, Invertase), Probiotics (Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product Dehydrated, Lactobacillus Rhamnosus Fermentation Product Dehydrated, Lactobacillus Casei Fermentation Product Dehydrated, Lactobacillus Plantarum Fermentation Product Dehydrated, Bifiobacterium Thermophilum Fermentation Product Dehydrated, Bifiobacterium Longum Fermentation Product Dehydrated, Enterococcus Faecium Fermentation Product Dehydrated, Bacillus Subtillus Fermentation Product Dehydrated) Wild Salmon Oil, Taurine, Parsley, Articoke, Rosemary, Vitamins (Lecithin,Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin E Supplement,Vitamin B12 Supplement, Thiamone Mononitrate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin Supplement, Niacin Supplement, Folic Acid, Biotin), DL-Methionine, Minerals (Calcium Pantothenate,  Zinc Amino Acid Chelate, Iron Amino Acid Chelate, Copper Amino Acids Chelate, Manganese Amino Acids Chelate, Cobalt Amino Acids Chelate, Selenium). 

I would do allergy testing but my vet did not recommend the food allergy test, she said it is very unreliable and often not accurate and very expensive.
 
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I would do allergy testing but my vet did not recommend the food allergy test, she said it is very unreliable and often not accurate and very expensive.
My sister-in-law did allergy testing for her cat and it worked. Very expensive, yes, but she found the cat was allergic to chicken and pepper trees. It's on a diet of duck and salmon foods and getting antigen shots. She says her skin is much better.
 
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