Cat has fever, not eating, drinking and throwing up

My 2 year old cat (Mowgli), has not been eating or drinking since Monday (4 days ago) (Last thing he has eaten by himself were some treats on Monday night). He threw up bile a few times the first two days when there was no food in his system and had also not used the litter box. 

We then took him to the vet on Wednesday and he had 105 degree Fahrenheit FEVER! Blood work was mostly normal, FIV re-test was negative. They hydrated him (subcutaneous fluid) and gave him antibiotic, anti-vomit and antacid shots. Vet said that we must force-feed him so started feeding him with a plunger but he is resisting and eating a little bit. He peed several times since and has also had a couple of bowel movements but he looks EXTREMELY LETHARGIC and would NOT EAT/DRINK anything, not even his favorite treats! Dr. said it could be FEVER WITH UNKNOWN ORIGIN (FUO) and I already spent $300 on that one vet visit (apart from the wellness plan insurance that I pay for every month! I'm a student and can't afford hospitalizing him which would cost thousands they said!).

Anyway, dropped him off at the vet today (Friday morning) and another experienced vet said that he still has 103.9 fever. She is suspecting a GALL-BLADDER/LIVER INFECTION. Gonna try to do an ultrasound today if the person is available. I am still waiting to get a call back from them.

Have any of you had any such experience or had a cat with fever for several days and no appetite? If yes, please advice and share your experience as to HOW LONG THE FEVER lasted and what the END RESULT was? Did your cat recover?

Also, PLEASE KEEP MOWGLI IN YOUR PRAYERS! THANK YOU so very much!

I have been through the not eating and vomiting bile but without a fever.  I have no idea what this could be but it sounds like you are going to a good vet clinic because they took the not eating seriously.  Many vets don't and it can lead to serious issues with a cat's liver.  I hope they get it figured out soon.

THANK YOU SO MUCH for your reply Denise. The vet said that she is suspecting a gall bladder/liver infection causing a jaundice. However, I would like to know your experience. How long did your cat not eat/drink and throw up? What was the end result? Did it get better?

Mowgli has already lost about 2 pounds (from 12 pounds to 10 pounds) in the last 2 days!! Hopefully he will improve soon.

I think my cat had something different.  He ended up with hepatic lipidosis which is what can happen when a cat doesn't eat.  It is notorious for a very long recovery time.  If this is some type of infection it won't be like that.  Hepatic lipidosis usually takes at least a month for recovery but don't think that will happen to your kitty.  He will need to be fed in some way though even if it means syringe feeding.  There are videos on you tube and one here that shows how to do it.  Basically you use the side of his mouth and aim for the roof of his mouth rather than his throat.  The main thing is to go slow and have a lot of patience.  There is a learning curve to it both for you and your kitty.

Thank you for your advice! It's so stressful to force feed a resisting sick cat, you know. You are right, it needs a lot of patience. Seeing your cat so sick for such a long time and still keeping hopes up is quiet hard.

H I am very sorry to say I don't have much insight other than what Denise has said, but I want you to know I am thinking of you and your kitty and hoping that he will get better.  I agree that your vet seems to know what he or she is doing. I know how totally scary and frustrating this must be.

Please keep us updated.  Thank you for caring about your kitty and consulting with a vet!

Thanks Tulosai for your support!

MowgliTheCat said:

 
UPDATE1: The ULTRASOUND results came in! This is what Mowgli is diagnosed with Cholangiohepatitis/Pancreatitis. (More info - http://www.2ndchance.info/triad.htm  ) GOOD NEWS is that it is TREATABLE!!

UPDATE2: Brought him back from the vet tonight after they gave him subcutaneous fluids, a different antibiotic shot (Baytril - last time the other vet gave him Convenia that lasts in the system for 14 days), anti-vomit and antacid and also gave me all of those medications (except the antacid) to be given him orally. He was also given vitamin B and B12 shots. We took home some appetite stimulant as well. They also switched his prescription food from the high caloric A/D to the low fat diet for him (Royal Canine HE) which I was asked to force-feed him and showed us how to give him the subcutaneous fluids. He had a rough day but by the time we left the vet, his fever had come down to 102.something which was awesome!

When we got home, we thought that he might wanna use the litter box since he was given fluids. But guess what, HE WENT STRAIGHT TO THE CAT FOOD THAT WAS KEPT OUT FOR THE OTHER KITTEN WE HAVE! HE FINALLY ATE BY HIMSELF AFTER 5 WHOLE DAYS! It was a MIRACLE. I wonder which of the medications given at the hospital worked but it felt like magic cause we hadn't even given him the appetite stimulant yet!!

THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR ADVICE AND PRAYERS!! Hoping that Mowgli will keep improving and be fit soon! 

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Oh and I forgot to mention. They also gave him a STEROID shot this time. I am really surprised at what did the trick cause even on Wednesday (the 1st vet visit), they gave him an antibiotic (Convenia), Antacid, Anti-vomit and fluids but it hadn't really brought back his appetite. This time they gave him another antibiotic (Baytri), Anti-vomit, Vitamin B & B12 and the steroids. Wondering which one of these made the actual difference.

OMG....I can't believe it....I was just about to write in and ask if Mowgli was checked for pancreatitis! There are several pancreatitis kitties floating around TCS right now (my kitty included), so there's lots of support.  

I'm so glad to hear he wanted to eat!  Continued vibes for Mowgli!!!!  

I am so glad that you found out what is going on with your kitty, and even more glad that he ate on his own.  Sending healing vibes for your boy.

Is your cat an outdoor cat, and is he a hunter?  My cat went through EXACTLY the same thing twice.  The first time it happened, his system was so poisoned, he almost died.  He had to stay overnight at the vets, receiving an IV drip for hydration, and all of the meds you mentioned.  $750 later (I'm a college student too, and thus broke as a joke), the vet, knowing that my cat was an avid hunter and is indoor/outdoor, told me that she believed he contracted toxic plasmosis from eating his kills, mainly birds, which are the filthiest most bacteria-ridden creatures on which cats love to snack.  I previously thought the rodents were worse.  I explained my financial situation after basically handing over all I had and they suggested making my cat exclusively an indoor cat.  I thought he was safe because he can't jump the tall fence and stays in the back yard, but alas, the backyard is full of infected potential threats to my cat's health.  I built a catio enclosure, my second because my clever kitty was able to pull birds through the wider mesh of the first one, and he contracted the disease a second time!  They taught me how to administer the drugs and IV myself which brought the cost down to a little under $60.  I rebuilt the catio and now my cat doesn't have that issue.  I live in an area where deer, racoon, and even a stray coyote will walk right up through the yard, so not only is my cat safe from contracting diseases from birds he's caught and eaten, but he won't become a snack for a coyote or the victim of a fight between himself and a wild raccoon.  I don't know if this helps.  If your cat is exclusively an indoor cat, all I can say is, the evidence points towards something poisoning his system.  Another thing to check is what kinds of household plants you have that he might be munching on.  I remember when I was a kid, we had a cat that sampled my mom's household plants and got pretty sick from one of them so she had to do some research into which ones were toxic to felines.  Good luck with this.  I feel for you.  I can't remember a time I was more upset than when my cat got sick from toxic plasmosis!

GoHolistic said:

 
OMG....I can't believe it....I was just about to write in and ask if Mowgli was checked for pancreatitis! There are several pancreatitis kitties floating around TCS right now (my kitty included), so there's lots of support.  

I'm so glad to hear he wanted to eat!  Continued vibes for Mowgli!!!!  

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Thank you so much for your wishes! I'm sorry that your kitty is going through the same thing? Is it a chronic pancreatitis or did he/she just have a similar episode? What kind of food should we be feeding our affected cats? The doc said high protein diet but my cat is such a picky eater! I used to feed him holistic food since he was a baby but most of them he wouldn't even eat and a few that he liked, he would get over them in a few months at max! Is there any special diet that you feed your kitty to improve the pancreas/liver? Really appreciate all the support here!

GoHolistic said:

 
OMG....I can't believe it....I was just about to write in and ask if Mowgli was checked for pancreatitis! There are several pancreatitis kitties floating around TCS right now (my kitty included), so there's lots of support.  

I'm so glad to hear he wanted to eat!  Continued vibes for Mowgli!!!!  

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Hope your kitty recovers quickly! Praying for him/her 

cprcheetah said:

 
I am so glad that you found out what is going on with your kitty, and even more glad that he ate on his own.  Sending healing vibes for your boy.

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Really appreciate your support and kind words! 

Xenot said:

 
Is your cat an outdoor cat, and is he a hunter?  My cat went through EXACTLY the same thing twice.  The first time it happened, his system was so poisoned, he almost died.  He had to stay overnight at the vets, receiving an IV drip for hydration, and all of the meds you mentioned.  $750 later (I'm a college student too, and thus broke as a joke), the vet, knowing that my cat was an avid hunter and is indoor/outdoor, told me that she believed he contracted toxic plasmosis from eating his kills, mainly birds, which are the filthiest most bacteria-ridden creatures on which cats love to snack.  I previously thought the rodents were worse.  I explained my financial situation after basically handing over all I had and they suggested making my cat exclusively an indoor cat.  I thought he was safe because he can't jump the tall fence and stays in the back yard, but alas, the backyard is full of infected potential threats to my cat's health.  I built a catio enclosure, my second because my clever kitty was able to pull birds through the wider mesh of the first one, and he contracted the disease a second time!  They taught me how to administer the drugs and IV myself which brought the cost down to a little under $60.  I rebuilt the catio and now my cat doesn't have that issue.  I live in an area where deer, racoon, and even a stray coyote will walk right up through the yard, so not only is my cat safe from contracting diseases from birds he's caught and eaten, but he won't become a snack for a coyote or the victim of a fight between himself and a wild raccoon.  I don't know if this helps.  If your cat is exclusively an indoor cat, all I can say is, the evidence points towards something poisoning his system.  Another thing to check is what kinds of household plants you have that he might be munching on.  I remember when I was a kid, we had a cat that sampled my mom's household plants and got pretty sick from one of them so she had to do some research into which ones were toxic to felines.  Good luck with this.  I feel for you.  I can't remember a time I was more upset than when my cat got sick from toxic plasmosis!

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Dear Xenot,

Thank you so very much for sharing your experience in details with me! You have brought up a point that the vets didn't really touch upon but my fiancé kept doubting that it could be a reason. I'm talking about Mowgli going out in the backyard.

Lemme give you a little history about Mowgli's indoor/outdoor nature. He had been an indoor cat for 2 whole years (since I adopted him when he was 5 weeks old till he was 2 years & 5 weeks old) while I used to live in apartments. He would meow incessantly in front of the front door to go out and would run out, down the stairs in a second and hide in the bushes every chance he would get! I gave him freedom to spend as much time as he wanted on the patio but that would not always be sufficient for him. I tried every possible thing! I moved in with a roommate (with another cat) so he could have a play buddy, bought all those "My Cat From Hell" toys and played with him every day and what not. He would meow non-stop day and night.. it was unbearable. I couldn't wait to move to a house to let him out in the backyard having the same views as you about the backyard being safe. Finally, I moved to a house and started letting him go out in the backyard since last June (2013) as that seemed to make him very happy. It also finding brought an end to his incessant meowing. (I too was wrong as I found out later on about the backyard being safe, he jumps the high fences and goes to the front lawn as well; I have also caught him on the roof of the house!)

EXTRA INFO (TMI ):  He is an avid hunter and has brought in LIVE bugs, frogs, little tiny snakes and what not inside the house and plays with them till they are dead! It's gross! But I am glad that he is at least entertained and is happy, not depressed. There were times when he would still get bored then he would come back in the house and meow. Even the toys didn't interest him. So, we decided to get him a sister who could be his play buddy and adopted Minnie last October (2013) as a gift from my fiancé to me on my birthday. Minnie is 2 years younger than him and is very active. Mowgli has been stressed since we adopted her but after a week or so he kind of adjusted to her and they play every now and then. However, ever since we got her, he seems to be less active as she is always running around and into his face which he dislikes. I'm not sure if this has anything to do with his illness. Minnie does not go out and she does not meow relentlessly to go out so we are gonna have her as an indoor cat (infact, she doesn't meow at all.. she is a squeaker!) but since she has been with us, Mowgli has stopped bringing his preys inside the house. I think he is territorial about the house and doesn't like her being there.

Anyway, since this incident has occurred we have locked the cat door and I would love to have him as an indoor cat, just hope that he doesn't get depressed (he looks depressed these days but that is most probably from his illness). Right now, Mowgli doesn't have that much strength to meow as much to go out but he sits in front of the cat-window and stares out for long times.

It never came to my mind that he might have been poisoned. This is because ever since he was a baby, he used to throw up right after eating, a few times a month. This mostly seemed to happen when there were longer time gaps in feeding him (although he always has dry for out for snacking throughout the day). It was from eating too fast cause the vomit consisted mostly of undigested food. Recently, for the past month or so (since we adopted Minnie) it seemed like his throw up frequency had increased. I asked the vet if it was related to his liver problem and she said, "It could have something to do with it." So, I ASSUMED that he probably has some CHRONIC liver weakness because some of the reasons the website on cholangiohepatitis (link in yesterday's post) states seems to be true with Mowgli:

1) "… the early signs of chronic cholangiohepatitis are easy to miss or brush off. It might be no more than a picky eater.." : Mowgli is one!

2) "Occasional cats with this problem actually eat more. That is because they no longer absorb sufficient nutrients from their food and compensate through additional eating. But that extra eating does not result in weight gain."  : He is pretty lean (about 12 pounds before he got sick) inspite of me keeping plenty of dry food out.. but I don't think he eats a lot.

3) His usual throw-up episodes. Wondered if it has to do anything inspite of the food being most undigested.

I also wondered what could have caused it:

1) Having snacks out all the time

2) Eating too much treats

3) Eating pro-plan and other brand wet food for the past year or so (he stopped eating premium, holistic food like Wellness (which he ate for the first 1.5 years of his life) and settled with different variations of pro-plan due to his picky-ness)

4) His weak immune system - he also has asthma.

But the REASON for the illness that YOU REFERRED to seems to be more likely. He probably got poisoned outside. But he doesn't eat anything bigger than a skinny fly-sized bug although there could be other sources of poison, I'm sure (like this one time he was chasing a frog which released something bitter/poisonous cause it made his mouth taste gross or something as he was salivating for a couple minutes unlike I gave him some treats that improved the taste). I'm not sure. The vet was too busy that day so I didn't get to talk much to her, only on the phone. I'll talk in details regarding the reason next time I visit the vet.

In the meantime, could you kindly give some more details about your experience so I could compare with Mowgli's situation? Was he diagnosed with pancreatitis or cholangeohepatitis specifically? Did they do an ultrasound on his abdomen for diagnosis? Did he show signs of jaundice too? What was the gap between the first and second poisoning episodes? How long was he ill, how many days of no eating? How long did it take for him to recover completely?

Mowgli is eating right now (I got a bunch of food both holistic ones and crappy yummy ones just to let him choose and get him eating cause the vet said that he must eat now, not important what kind of food it is) but I don't think it is enough - he ate more today than yesterday though. He drank some water too. But he still looks weak  . He also has a diarrhea now. I gave him all the medications but I am scared to prick him to give him the fluids so I'm probably gonna take him to the vet tomorrow again and give him the fluids in front of them and learn how to do it.

Wow! This has become a long post. Sorry about the details but I just wanted to share the situation just in case someone finds a cause to his illness that I might be overlooking. Thank you so much for your help, support and patience. Appreciate you dedicating your time!

MowgliTheCat said:

 
Thank you so much for your wishes! I'm sorry that your kitty is going through the same thing? Is it a chronic pancreatitis or did he/she just have a similar episode? What kind of food should we be feeding our affected cats? The doc said high protein diet but my cat is such a picky eater! I used to feed him holistic food since he was a baby but most of them he wouldn't even eat and a few that he liked, he would get over them in a few months at max! Is there any special diet that you feed your kitty to improve the pancreas/liver? Really appreciate all the support here!

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Sebastian does have chronic pancreatitis which will display itself in various levels of severity. We had the special blood test sent out to Texas A&M. We also suspect he has IBD (a possible cause of the pancreatitis), so he is being treated for that with various prescription meds and some supplements. The food question is a tough one. My vet wanted to put Sebastian on a limited ingredient, novel protein diet to eliminate any food allergies (he does have a history of some food sensitivities), so he's on a strict rabbit only diet (Royal Canin Hypoallergenic Selected Protein PR Feline - mostly wet food, and gets just a teeny bit of dry). I purchased raw ground boneless rabbit and organs, and I may try to experiment with a cooked diet...perhaps transitioning to raw. If your kitty doesn't have food allergies, he may do okay with easily digestible canned foods. I think the more limited in ingredients they are, the better. Nature's Variety has a limited ingredient line, as does Natural Balance. Definitely avoid grains and high carbs.

Sebastian has two threads (the second is really long):

http://www.thecatsite.com/t/262314/sebastian-hospitalized-has-pancreatitis-seeking-input

http://www.thecatsite.com/t/264363/sebastian-is-back-at-the-vet-suspected-pancreatitis-again

Fluid therapy is important for pancreatitis, so I do hope you can learn to do them at home. I had my vet teach me on Sebastian. Even when Sebastian is doing well, I still give him sub-q fluids every 2-4 days (depending on how he's feeling and if he needs them). I suspect I'll be doing this long-term.

By the way, Sebastian is an indoor only cat.

Hugs for you     and vibes for Mowgli! 

GoHolistic said:

 
Sebastian does have chronic pancreatitis which will display itself in various levels of severity. We had the special blood test sent out to Texas A&M. We also suspect he has IBD (a possible cause of the pancreatitis), so he is being treated for that with various prescription meds and some supplements. The food question is a tough one. My vet wanted to put Sebastian on a limited ingredient, novel protein diet to eliminate any food allergies (he does have a history of some food sensitivities), so he's on a strict rabbit only diet (Royal Canin Hypoallergenic Selected Protein PR Feline - mostly wet food, and gets just a teeny bit of dry). I purchased raw ground boneless rabbit and organs, and I may try to experiment with a cooked diet...perhaps transitioning to raw. If your kitty doesn't have food allergies, he may do okay with easily digestible canned foods. I think the more limited in ingredients they are, the better. Nature's Variety has a limited ingredient line, as does Natural Balance. Definitely avoid grains and high carbs.

Sebastian has two threads (the second is really long):

http://www.thecatsite.com/t/262314/sebastian-hospitalized-has-pancreatitis-seeking-input

http://www.thecatsite.com/t/264363/sebastian-is-back-at-the-vet-suspected-pancreatitis-again

Fluid therapy is important for pancreatitis, so I do hope you can learn to do them at home. I had my vet teach me on Sebastian. Even when Sebastian is doing well, I still give him sub-q fluids every 2-4 days (depending on how he's feeling and if he needs them). I suspect I'll be doing this long-term.

By the way, Sebastian is an indoor only cat.

Hugs for you  

  and vibes for Mowgli! 

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Dear GoHolistic,

I read the first thread (well, most of it) and it seems like you went through EXACTLY the same thing as I am going through right now! It is so depressing!! I had a report due at school last Friday and missed the due date. I still can't focus on my work!

Anyway, I guess I was getting over-excited about Mowgli starting to eat by himself cause he is doing the same thing that Sebastian did! Go to the bowl, act like he wants to eat.. barely take a bite or two and leave! I stopped syringe feeding him because the nurse said that if he is eating on his own then don't force-feed him. He is a pretty difficult cat when it comes to either force-feeding or taking his medication. Today he even gagged out the Cerenia - I wasted two pills cause once the coating gets wet, it becomes a powder form! He was really nauseous after that. He spat out a few times and also had his asthma attack while trying to gag it out. He took his antibiotic (Baytril) though. I wonder if the Cerenia tastes real bad??   I think my kitten (Minnie) ate one of his antibiotics while I was trying to give him the Cerenia. Every time I have the pill with me or open the bottle she gets all over it! I wonder if Baytril tastes good.

Well, I am back to my stressful state now that Mowgli would barely eat. His improvement is really slow. I shall try now to give him the fluid - I read a detailed reply on your thread which seemed very helpful.

One question to you: How long did it take for Sebastian to totally recover (become his normal self) when he had his first pancreatitis attack? He stopped eating last Monday so it is almost 1 whole week now!

Thank you so much for sharing your thread and the details with me. I am extremely grateful for that.

GoHolistic said:

 
Sebastian does have chronic pancreatitis which will display itself in various levels of severity. We had the special blood test sent out to Texas A&M. We also suspect he has IBD (a possible cause of the pancreatitis), so he is being treated for that with various prescription meds and some supplements. The food question is a tough one. My vet wanted to put Sebastian on a limited ingredient, novel protein diet to eliminate any food allergies (he does have a history of some food sensitivities), so he's on a strict rabbit only diet (Royal Canin Hypoallergenic Selected Protein PR Feline - mostly wet food, and gets just a teeny bit of dry). I purchased raw ground boneless rabbit and organs, and I may try to experiment with a cooked diet...perhaps transitioning to raw. If your kitty doesn't have food allergies, he may do okay with easily digestible canned foods. I think the more limited in ingredients they are, the better. Nature's Variety has a limited ingredient line, as does Natural Balance. Definitely avoid grains and high carbs.

Sebastian has two threads (the second is really long):

http://www.thecatsite.com/t/262314/sebastian-hospitalized-has-pancreatitis-seeking-input

http://www.thecatsite.com/t/264363/sebastian-is-back-at-the-vet-suspected-pancreatitis-again

Fluid therapy is important for pancreatitis, so I do hope you can learn to do them at home. I had my vet teach me on Sebastian. Even when Sebastian is doing well, I still give him sub-q fluids every 2-4 days (depending on how he's feeling and if he needs them). I suspect I'll be doing this long-term.

By the way, Sebastian is an indoor only cat.

Hugs for you  

  and vibes for Mowgli! 

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I forgot to mention that he is drinking water though. In the last 2 hours I saw him drinking it twice. But he must be feeling nauseous since he didn't take the cerenia and had it stuck in his throat while he gagged it which really must have ruined his taste.

I hope Sebastian is feeling better. I'm so sorry you have to go through this too… this is too hard! :'(

UPDATE: Guess I reacted too soon and was being excited uselessly! Mowgli doesn't seem to be improving much :'( He barely eats two bites.. he is drinking water though and also peeing.

He spat out the anti-nausea medication (Ceremia) twice today (wasted two pills). He gagged it from his throat and even had an asthma attack during this gagging.. it left an awful taste as he was drooling soon after and even spat a bunch. :-(

I feel SOOOOO HELPLESS! :'(

Oh no! Poor Mowgli.    Here is a document by Idexx that really helped me to understand how pancreatitis is treated: http://www.idexx.com/pubwebresource...pec-fpl-treatment-for-feline-pancreatitis.pdf

My vet followed the Idexx recommendations to a T, so Sebastian was on fluid therapy, an antiemetic medication (Cerenia), an antacid (famotidine/Pepcid), an antibiotic (metronidazole/Flagyl), and pain medication (Fentanyl patch; lasts for three days). Is Mowgli being treated for pain? Pancreatitis is very painful. An appetite stimulant (mirtazapine) was needed when I got him home, and we added a steroid (prednisolone) and B12 injections later, but the pred is oftentimes given by the vet during a flare. You may want to talk to your vet about all the treatment options mentioned in the document I linked to above.

Sebastian wouldn't take the pills either and would immediately start foaming at the mouth and shaking his head everywhere. By the recommendations of the folks here on TCS, I purchased #4 and #3 gel caps on Amazon (made by the Empty Caps Company). Or does your vet sell empty gel caps? The lower the number, the bigger the gel cap is, so #4 is pretty small. Unfortunately, there was shipping time and I needed something ASAP, so I had some Cosequin for Cats on hand (comes in small gel caps), so I emptied those and used those gel caps until the ones I ordered arrived. Is there something in the house that comes in a small gel cap that would be safe to empty? Be sure any remnants of the contents wouldn't hurt the cat. Put the pill in the gel cap and coat it with a thin layer of butter.

Walking away from the food like you describe is a classic sign of nausea. If you can get the Cerenia in him, this will really help. How long has it been since Mowgli's last decent meal? Keep tabs on this because not eating can result in hepatic lipidosis (fatty liver disease), which is another problem in of itself. This should be avoided at all costs. Since Sebastian was still nauseous and not eating on his own, I syringe-fed him. Even when he was eating a little on his own, I would supplement the rest the calories he needed with syringe-feeding. I always used the Hill's A/D for syringe feeding, but I would give him something else when trying to get him to eat on his own. Once he started to feel better, we gave him the appetite stimulant (mirtazapine) to help him along. Sometimes the appetite stimulant is given sooner. You can talk to your vet about this.

I would say from the very first day of his pancreatitis flare, that it probably took 2 weeks for him to really start feeling better and eating on his own enough that I felt I didn't need to syringe feed him anymore.

Many, many vibes for Mowgli's recovery!!!