Vegan cats?

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I am a vegan and have just stumbled upon sites promoting vegan diets for pets. Apparently there are even companies getting into it and marketing food of this sort. This has to be considered abuse?
 

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I have a serious problem with people enforcing a vegan or vegetarian diet on obligate carnivores. What part of carnivore do they not understand?
 
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I wonder if the food companies promoting this can be pressured to stop? they are legitimizing the idea
 

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I wonder if the food companies promoting this can be pressured to stop? they are legitimizing the idea
I don't know. Many of the weight management foods for cats are absurdly wrong with their food formulations as well, yet they're still on the shelves.
 
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Hopefully it is a very small percentage of people trying this and they notice quickly it is not good. Just saw people on youtube describing the diet and how to do it...sad
 

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I know years ago the major company promoting the diet(not a vegan diet to add meat to that some companies do so you can add fresh meat that is ok for your pet to handle) also had a cat rescue using its food. Not sure if this is still the case.  But I always wondered what would come of that rescue.

I am always so glad to see a vegetarian or vegan who understands the need for cats to eat meat.  I was a vegetarian for many years and could not imagine putting them on same diet.  I agree some food on shelf is also wrong but sadly not all can feed a better diet, myself included.  
 

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I work at a pet store, and my manager just put a stop on the order for Natural Balance Vegetarian dog dry food. It's awful! The ingredients are terrible!

Ingredients: Brown rice, oatmeal, cracked pearled barley, peas, potato protein, canola oil, potatoes, tomato pomace, vegetable flavoring, calcium carbonate, dicalcium phosphate, flaxseed, potassium chloride, choline chloride, taurine, natural mixed tocopherols, spinach, parsley flakes, cranberries, l-lysine, l-carnitine, Yucca schidigera extract, kelp, vitamin E supplement, iron proteinate, zinc proteinate, copper proteinate, ferrous sulfate, zinc sulfate, copper sulfate, potassium iodide, thiamine mononitrate (vitamin B-1), manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, ascorbic acid, vitamin A supplement, biotin, niacin, d-calcium pantothenate, manganese sulfate, sodium selenite, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B-6), vitamin B-12 supplement, riboflavin (vitamin B-2), vitamin D-2 supplement, folic acid
     
The dry matter analysis is 20% protein, 9% fat, and 63% CARBS!
 

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I agree some food on shelf is also wrong but sadly not all can feed a better diet, myself included.  
I was talking about the gimmicks like "indoor formula" and "weight control" stuff that's full of carbs. There's plenty of foods that are much better for cheap like Friskies pate style and others.
 

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Got ya.  Thought you meant the grocery brands.  I won't touch the store brands but will do friskies and the like of dry.  Sadly wet got to be much.  

I never understood if being vegetarian or vegan means you want pet to eat the same get a pet that thrives on no meat not barely survives on that type of diet.  Short term almost any thing can survive on food in general but to actually thrive on it is different story.  
 

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I'm a nursing student so all I could afford was grocery store stuff for canned. I even bought THE store brands. Now I feed raw at a fraction of the price of canned.
 

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Since you have seen these, you should become a crusader to warn them.  Find good articles about cat nutrition.  Cats cannot become vegan, they will become ill and even die.
 

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I was over a friends house who fed the store brand dry.  It was more the lack of scooping box for 4  cats but damn that was SOME sight with neon poop. ever since then I never considered any store brands.  I get the dry for about half price or less with sales/coupons and the friskies 5.5 come to .40 a can or less including tax so not much to be had savings wise to go lower.Had my dog on raw and lost my entire freezer of almost all her food due to Sandy.  :(  Someday I hope to go back to raw well at least besides as a treat.  I was so happy to meet a couple in their 50s a few blocks away who feed raw.  Nice to see it caught on some.
 

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people who would promote this diet for a cat obviously have lost their senses. They see their pets as extensions of themselves and so obviously cannot grasp the difference between their personal decisions about diet and forcing a different species under their care to observe the same for political reasons.  That would be the only reason for such irrationality on the proponent's part.
 
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Since you have seen these, you should become a crusader to warn them.  Find good articles about cat nutrition.  Cats cannot become vegan, they will become ill and even die.
I think some vegans that have fallen over to this ridiculous line of reasoning could be retrieved by suggested 'humanely raised' meat in the pet food. Grassfed, free range non factory farm products. I personally feed my indoor cats raw. I try to buy brands that are as clean of meat sources as possible, lamb from New Zealand, rabbit...Most vegans including myself first are pulled to the diet because of the horrors of factory farming practices. Also, people that first get pets quickly realize the undeniable fact that animals have consciousness and emotions....become vegan. Then somehow with these factors feel conflicted and end up in a place where they are feeding their cats potatoes for a diet!? Sometimes I am even suspicious groups like Peta actually have an agenda to rid the planet of all carnivores. Their policies on feral cats is bizarre for an animal rights group. But I think these companies should focus on the humanely raised meat to cater to this mentality. 
 

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I think some vegans that have fallen over to this ridiculous line of reasoning could be retrieved by suggested 'humanely raised' meat in the pet food. Grassfed, free range non factory farm products. I personally feed my indoor cats raw. I try to buy brands that are as clean of meat sources as possible, lamb from New Zealand, rabbit...Most vegans including myself first are pulled to the diet because of the horrors of factory farming practices. Also, people that first get pets quickly realize the undeniable fact that animals have consciousness and emotions....become vegan. Then somehow with these factors feel conflicted and end up in a place where they are feeding their cats potatoes for a diet!? Sometimes I am even suspicious groups like Peta actually have an agenda to rid the planet of all carnivores. Their policies on feral cats is bizarre for an animal rights group. But I think these companies should focus on the humanely raised meat to cater to this mentality. 
 

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I was discussing this with a friend the other day. She told me that her brother and his girlfriend feed their dogs a vegan diet. 

My friend is vegan, I'm vegetarian, and we were both appalled.  The dogs have major problems. 

People who want to make their pets vegan fly in the face of their own principles... the abhorrence of cruelty to animals.

If they want to have a companion animal they can have guinea pigs.  Or a goat.
 

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Peta is a radical organization full of sociopathological zealots. They package their message as concern for animals which many people can support. The idea that domesticated dogs and cats are slaves is so completely ridiculous, and one of many many examples of what a completely messed up organization it is. However I think it is an excellent public service to point out that their "thinking" is terrible in general so that people aren't snowed into giving these horrible people money ever.
 
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Yes they seem to be misguided at best! Cats are a self domesticated bunch. They took it on themselves to live close to us for many survival reasons. Maybe not with the intention to be completely confined indoor pets but still it is ridiculous to call them slaves.
 
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