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Winkie, which part of India do you live in? I Googled vets in India and there were quite a few in the big cities like Delhi, are you very far from there? Isn't there a zoo in your area? Maybe a vet who treats the big cats in the zoo could help you.

I read some of your other posts about the crazy man who attacked your cat before. Is he the same man that shot his own daughter? I think you are really brave for staying there.

If you cat recovers from this please try to keep him indoors.

I hope Harry gets better soon. 
 
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Norachan I am not from Delhi. I am from Lucknow and right now I talked with vet he will come tomorrow and give him enema. I cant stop my tears as he is so loving and will bear the stress and pain. Please pray he gets well soon.
 

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I've been to Lucknow. It was a long time ago but I remember the beautiful old buildings there.

I hope the enema helps Harry.

I'll keep my fingers crossed for you both. 


Love and best wishes from Japan.
 
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Thanks Norachan...Glad you have been to my city...Please pray to God for Harry's recovery...I am crying right now and do not know what to do.. his eyes speak a lot to me...
 
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Just to update...got a call from vet in the morn that he would come by evening as had some emergency...so I got more worried for my lil harry..as it would be another day without stool...right now he again put all his energy to poo and this time I did something too..I put some Vaseline on my finger and as he opened his anus I put inside my finger and took out five to six hard small balls of stool...he felt so relaxed....pls suggest what I did was right or wrong...I had no other option...now he is sleeping peacefully under the sun...will give him psyllium husk now before his meal in evening so that the stool is not hard now....should I still go for enema? Also one pharmacist suggested me to give him 2tsp warm water and soap water flush in his anus...should I try? Pls suggest...thanks
 

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Hi Winkie,

I don't think you did anything wrong. My mother, who is a registered child minder, sometimes had to do the same thing for the babies she was caring for if they became very constipated. As long as you were gentle and there is no bleeding it should we OK. Harry probably feels more comfortable now. 

Please don't use soap to flush his anus as this contains irritants which will be painful for him. Maybe wait for the vet to arrive and ask his opinion on the enema?
 
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Thanks Norachan. Ok I wont give him soap water to flush....maybe I will try plain warm glycerine water instead... I also now have found that he cannot straighten his tail...I think it is numb. I did not touched the head of tail (as he has not allowed us to touch his lower part yet) but what I found is that his tail is just hanging...I tried to touch but he did not allowed me  today he came to my lap for the first time after the injury and slept for hour or so and then when he was asleep I managed to look at him carefully and also tried some gentle hand massage on his back which he allowed. He eats his food now (not that regular but still eats) and also drinks water. Will talk to the vet in the evening..Thanks once again..
 

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Did the Vet make it over yet?  Also, did you check for the Miralax product under the name Peg 3350?  that's how they sell it in Canada, and I googled it and I found that it's exported OUT of India under that name, so think possibly you might be able to find it under that name.  I'm a little concerned with the psyllium husk because it bulks up the stools, and if he's having a hard time passing them already, it might be worse of the get bulkier.  The Peg 3350 makes them softer, therefore much easier to pass. 

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Thanks Mrsgreenjeens. Glad to say that he passed his stool yesterday without enema..though I assisted him in doing so. But the thing is again he sits in his litter box as if he has to pass stool and uses all pressure and nothing comes out. Also his urine dribbling has not stopped. He feels so exhausted after all this exercise. As he is such a sweet child will always use his litter box or old newspapers which I have spread now as he is unable to sit for long. He tries not to mess on his bed or on my bed or anywhere in the house. He is such a good child. And I speak good and positive words to him that he will be alright soon and we will run again and play again. I have to clean all the mess so many times around his litter box and he meows looking at me. I have kept now four and five litter boxes in every corner of house. His tail which I think is dead. Vet will come today to check. I talked to him over the phone and he advised olive oil gentle massage on the tail. He says maybe the tail is numb due to nerve injury and may take time to heal. I will find Peg 3350 here and even if I don't find in India I will export from abroad online. I will do whatever I can for my baby. He has seen and suffered a lot. He was too young to lose his mom and then now when grown up this cruel world not allowing  these beautiful beings to live peacefully. I have complained to the police. Animal activists and People for animals are in support. I want that this cruel neighbour should realize that what he did was wrong. And that how it feels if his nerves are broken and if he is paralyzed and if he is beaten badly (which I know God will do for he has made his Karma which he will have to pay in life). I do not wish to lose hope for my baby harry and I request all of you dear friends please pray that he is fine again.
 
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@mrsgreenjeensthanks so much..I got the med. It is called Pegmove and contains polyethylene glycol 3350 powder for oral solution. but it is not exported and is manufactured here by sun pharma drugs. Also as precaution it is written: do not use this medicine if you are allergic to polyethylene glycol, if you hv bowel obstruction or kidney disease and also to be used for two weeks or less. I am adding here the photo too. Pls suggest should I give to cat or not. Or should I consult the vet. He is still  having problem in passing stool and I am right now giving him psyllium husk. Somebody told me to add castor oil to his food. Should I do that too? Please advise and many thanks.

 

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the label isn't clear, but in Miralax and any generics I have ever seen, the ONLY ingredient is Polyethylene Glycol 3350 (that's the active ingredient, and under "other ingredients" it states: none).  Is this what your bottle says?  And yes, it usually states to use only for a short number of days, but I used it on my Sven for over a year, and many people on this site use it for their cats who have trouble in that area.

I cannot tell you what to do.  All I can tell you is that if I had a cat who was having problems as Winkie appears to have, I would probably not want to give him something to bulk up his stools, which I believe psyllium husk does, but would rather give him something to soften them, which Miralax does.  Many Vets are still learning about Miralax.  I know I had to bring it to my Vets attention, and once I did and she investigated it, even though my cat had kidney disease, she gave me the OK to use it. And it worked very well.  It was the ONLY THING that worked for him.  (Also, years ago before this was available over the counter, my dr. prescribed it for ME, and it worked for me as well
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IF you decide to use it, the common dosage for cats is 1/8th teaspoon (not sure how that converts to metric) dissolveld in with a little bit (1/4 teaspoon maybe) of water you CAN use more but want to make sure Winkie gets it all in, then mix that into some wet food.  It's completely odorless and does NOT gel up, so there should be no problem with him eating it, unless he doesn't eat his food normally
  We gave Sven this in the morning and the evening. 

Here is another thread about a few people having success with Miralax:  http://www.thecatsite.com/t/267201/mo-has-megacolon-i-have-a-question

As to using Castor Oil, I'm not a believer in using any type of oil for cats because I think it blocks the nutrients from absorbing into their systems, but what did your Vet say about that one?  And since your Vet seems to be so accommodating, why not run the Miralax by him and let him check into it.  If he can learn something new and pass it along to the next patient, all the better 

Keep us posted!
 

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HELLO, I ONLY GOT THE TAIL END OF YOUR STORY, I WILL TRY TO MAKE THIS SHORT I HAVE 4 YEAR OLD MAINCOON, I THOUGHT SHE WAS JUST CONSTIPATED AND I LOADED HER UP ON FIBER, FIBER PILLS COOKIES ETC, WELL I DID THE COMPLETE OPPISITE, ALL THAT FIBER BULKED UP HER COLON AND SHE HAS MEGA COLON, SEVERAL VET APPOINTMENTS LATER AND A GENTLER VET, I FOUND OUT SHE HAS AN OLD PELVIC INGURY THAT WE WERE NEVER AWARE OF, SHE IS NOW ON CISAPRIDE AND LACTULOSE,AND I DID BUY SOME CAT LAX AND I ORDERED SOME COCONUT OIL, PLEASE BE CAREFUL GIVING YOUR KITTY FIBER, IF I WOULD OF JUST TAKEN OUR CAT TO THE FIRST THING I WOULD OF SAVED 100'S AND I SHOULD OF NEVER LISTENED TO THE INTERNETS INFO ON CAT CONSTIPATION. I COULD OF KILLED MY BEST FREIND. SORRY ABOUT MY SPELLING, ON THE WAY TO THE VET AGAIN!!! GOOD LUCK.
 

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Are you consulting your vet on all of this? Or just buying meds over the counter?
 
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@molldeeVet is treating my cat and I have not given any med without his prescription..but for constipation I am upset...he uses so much pressure to poo and has now swollen his anus. Vet here are not so experienced or knowledgeable regarding cats. He says he will recover with time and I have to have patience. But I know my cat is not  well and is very sad and depressed because of his urine dribbling and constipation. He will sit for hours at litter box and I help him out and I too feel the pain. Pray he gets well soon.
 
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@mrsgreenjeens: thanks dear
 

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I'm so sorry you're going through this. It can be really frustrating when vets don't understand your concern. I'm hoping for the best!!
 

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he won't eat it now, but earlier in recovery, Boo enjoyed coconut oil. That seemed to help a bit.

From what I understand, castor oil shouldn't be given. I would also not use the fiber right now. It could be that its just difficult for him to go because his injuries make it difficult to stand long enough to finish. It could also mean that his passage way is somewhat obstructed. The fiber will bulk up the stool and that could make it harder to pass than without the fiber.
 
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Thanks LauraG....how did you give coconut oil to your cute boo...I mean did you mix it in his food? what abt coconut water..will it help? Also pls suggest some food recipe so that he eats...he is eating very less only two three bites of chicken and I force feed him egg yolks mixed with chicken soup...pls suggest some diet for him...he is constipated and has very difficulty in passing stools. I have to finger in and take out all the time...he is so sad...and with his numb tail hanging down he becomes messy and I have to clean him all the time with damp cotton...though he is so nice that he tries to lick himself and clean...
 

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I'm so sorry your kitty is still having difficulty. For the coconut oil, I just scooped a little out of the jar and offered it too him--no more than a fingernail size portion ---and he just ate it.  I did not give him any dry food/kibble and have tried boiled chicken (cut up into bits) and a bit of chicken liver every once in a while.

The water used in boiling the chicken can be saved and offered to your kitty as broth to drink. Having more moisture in the diet seems to help move things along in his digestive system.  He also enjoyed a little bit of yogurt and a little bit of milk. Lots of people advise against dairy since kitties are largely lactose intolerant, but my cat will not drink water. So I try to be inventive in how I get him more moisture.

One of his foods is freeze dried and you have to rehydrate it with warm water. The volume of water to food is very high and he laps that up because it is a tasty broth.  It has been 8 weeks and constipation is something that I must watch for all the time.

If he will let you also gently stroke his belly and his sides. The massage is relaxing and might also help keep his digestive system mobile.

Since he no longer wants the coconut oil, I've included a little safflower oil with his food too.  Also just a very small amount. It doesn't taste strong like olive oil and seems to do the trick.
 

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First of all, no solid fiber based laxatives. Stick to Miralax.  Try upping the dosage of Miralax to 1/4 a tsp up to twice daily.

I would not have him eat anything if he is not pooping.   Why? If he is not pooping, all that stuff is backing up in his system, and he can block in his intestines. If that happens his intestines can twist and die, and your cat will  die.

Keep giving the miralax with water and chicken broth (not actual chicken).  Miralax is extremely safe as long as you do not syringe feed it and have it go into his lungs.  If he does not respond to 1/4th a tsp 2x daily for 2 days, I would try increasing the dose even more.

You want diarrhea.  If he has nerve damage, you may need to keep him on Miralax for life, and he may only be able to pass liquid stools.  Solid stools will not pass if there is nerve damage, so the more liquid in the stool, the better.

Once he has diarrhea consistently, I would start introducing sold foods. If the Miralax successfully clears out his system, his appetite should come back provided there isn't internal damage somewhere else.

The bladder issue is troubling.  Make sure to watch how much urine he passes. Can you buy a microscope? If you can get a urine sample in a cup, you can put it under the microscope and check for crystals and blood.  It is not as hard as it sounds. 

What to look for in urine?

https://ahdc.vet.cornell.edu/clinpath/modules/UA-ROUT/CRYSTSED.HTM

https://ahdc.vet.cornell.edu/clinpath/modules/ua-sed/cells.htm
 
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