Stubborn herpes infection? Add Lactoferrin in addition to Lysine

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If you find the lysine+lactoferrin combo doesn't clear it up, you might want to pay for the test for mycoplasma. (The UR panel).
 

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We did the UR test at Rocky's initial vet visit for the eye infection and it came back positive for calicivirus and mycoplasma. Oddly herpes came back negative, but the doctor said there are often false negatives with herpes....

He is now on doxycycline for his mycoplasma. That is the medicine I mix into baby food to make sure he gets it all since it has a yucky taste and he is a little difficult to give meds to. Doc wants to keep him on it for a minimum of two weeks. We are about one week in... I'd say his eye and nose are definitely drier, but his third eyelid is still evident (covering about 1/3 of his eyeball) and his pupil is quite constricted. Doc calls it Uveitis - a pretty general inflammation of the eye caused by myriad illnesses. I'm banking on the viral and mycoplasma connection though.

My husband has a theory that a broken canine tooth on the same side isn't helping things. When he gets better, we will have to address the dental side of things..... Poor Rocky. He was on the street for many of his 9 years... I hope I did right to bring him in.
 

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We did the UR test at Rocky's initial vet visit for the eye infection and it came back positive for calicivirus and mycoplasma. Oddly herpes came back negative, but the doctor said there are often false negatives with herpes....

He is now on doxycycline for his mycoplasma. That is the medicine I mix into baby food to make sure he gets it all since it has a yucky taste
My Perla was just diagnosed from a UR Panel to have Chlamydia and Mycoplasma and also tested negative for Herpes. For the past three years we have been treating her for herpes with no luck. She is also on Doxy for one month, though, not two weeks. According to the eye specialist vet, one month is recommended for the doxy. Perla's medication was called into the pharmacy and are in capsule form. A bit on the big side, and I am not happy about that, but we only have 9 more days to go. So far, I have not had to address her eye at all since starting on the doxy. Her left eye is still mildly weepy and I have a feeling that will never change.

Dr. Lindley said that if she shows continuing symptoms then we will run the panel once again. IF she clears, no need to re-run the panel.

I still have her on Lysine and the Lactoferrin. In all honesty, I don't think the Lysine ever helped Perla much. Since adding in the Lactoferrin, tremendous improvement though.

:vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes: for your Rocky.
 

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As most of you know, my Hannah was diagnosed with Herpes 6 years ago and also had a pseudomonas infection.  For the past several months, she's been very sneezy and had a herpes flare up.  She's over the flare up, but has continued to sneeze clear mucus and to sneeze a lot.  This summer has been brutal on allergies here and her regular routine of lysine and a daily antihistamine just wasn't working.  We added lactoferrin last week and we've already seen a drastic reduction in her sneezes!  They're not completely gone, but they are fewer and I'm happy with that.
 

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Doxycycline works against pseudomonas AND mycoplasma, so those of you running into those nasty bugs, ask your vet about this antibiotic.  It's an oldie but goodie.
 

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My vet suggests 500 mg of l-lysine twice a day during flare-ups. Then when kitty is better, you can diminish the dose.... A long time vet of mine said once it's good to get them off it for a bit, but I can't remember why. Something like a week off once in a while. Does any one know the reason? I suppose I could google for that info
 

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Actually, we used Zenequin for Hannah's pseudomonas.  It took 2 rounds, 21 days each to completely get it into normal range.

For the Lysine, I give mine 500mg twice a day almost all the time, based on symptoms.
 

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Nope.  It's caught in a culture test of any discolored discharge.  It's usually an underlying or secondary infection that makes the presenting infection hard to cure.
 

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As most of you know, my Hannah was diagnosed with Herpes 6 years ago and also had a pseudomonas infection.  For the past several months, she's been very sneezy and had a herpes flare up.  She's over the flare up, but has continued to sneeze clear mucus and to sneeze a lot.  This summer has been brutal on allergies here and her regular routine of lysine and a daily antihistamine just wasn't working.  We added lactoferrin last week and we've already seen a drastic reduction in her sneezes!  They're not completely gone, but they are fewer and I'm happy with that.
It is really amazing how many have been trying the Lactoferrin and seeing an improvement. Dr. Lindley, Perla's eye specialist, is very aware of the Lactoferrin benefits and is also recommending it ( 250 mg., 1/2 capsule twice daily) to some clients in addition to the Lysine at 500 mg., twice daily. She actually mentioned this to me before I had a chance to tell her she was already on it.... thanks to my great friend, the brilliant researcher. :D :lol3: :bigthumb:
 
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Rocky's eye infection amounted to uveitis (which is fancy for the whole eye area is inflamed). It's getting better with doxycycline, lactoferrin, lysine, and ..... time.

However. the pupil in the afflicted eye is still constricted compared to the other "healthier" eye. The third eyelid is still there as well, though less so. Has anyone experienced this and how long does it take to go back to normal?
 

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As of my last post, Rocky's eye is much better! All inflammation is reduced and third eyelid is back to normal. Just a slight size difference between pupils remains. So I think we combatted this flare up!

Now to the future... My instinct is to pull the canine on the "bad " side.

Anyone have experience with broken canines causing or exacerbating eye ear and nose infections?
 

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Samson had a herpes infection a few months ago. Was given antibiotics...went away. Now has a fungus infection on his nose. Putting a drop of (forgot) on his nose two times daily. Is this normal? 9 mos old Siamese...
 

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Our 12-yr. old male cat Jake, never had a problem until we adopted our new kitten Murphy.  When we got Murphy, he was pretty sick with a URI or herpes or both, but we quarantined him for several weeks, thinking that was enough.  But when he mingled with his new brother, the virus seemed to pass to Jake.  Now every few months, he sneezes a lot, tends to throw up more. He's been on clavamox on and off, but I really hate to put him on it over and over.  So he's been on Lysine on and off when there's a flare-up.   I've been reading here about this amazing Lactoferrin, so ordered Jarrow Formulas Lactoferrin 250mg. from Amazon.  We've had Jake on it for a few weeks, and didn't see much in improvement.  The recommended dose here I believe has been 125mg twice a day.  Without any results, I upped his dose to 250mg. 1-2 times a day.  Meaning he gets 250mg. each morning with a tbsp. of canned food, and when I get the chance, he gets the same at night.  Sometimes I don't always get that second dose in the evening into him.  But with this higher dose of mgs, there seems to be an improvement finally.  Also, keep in mind our Jake weighs 16 lbs., so maybe being a larger cat, the larger dose is needed to jumpstart his recovery?  I can tone it down when he is back to normal - no more wheezing and sneezing.

Any ideas on this are much appreciated.  I'm also the one who took in the 5 month-old little feral cat that we named Gracie, that came to our door back in April after somehow surviving that brutally harsh arctic winter we had.  With tons of patience, love, and tuna, she started out literally climbing the walls floor to ceiling, terrified of humans and just glaring at us when we entered her room -  to our very loving beautiful baby.  She's blossomed into a most wonderful pet, and follows us all over the house, she adores my husband, absolutely loves her 3 cat "brothers", and we all love her to pieces - a happy ending to a very horrible start in life for her.
 

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Any ideas on this are much appreciated.  I'm also the one who took in the 5 month-old little feral cat that we named Gracie, that came to our door back in April after somehow surviving that brutally harsh arctic winter we had.  With tons of patience, love, and tuna, she started out literally climbing the walls floor to ceiling, terrified of humans and just glaring at us when we entered her room -  to our very loving beautiful baby.  She's blossomed into a most wonderful pet, and follows us all over the house, she adores my husband, absolutely loves her 3 cat "brothers", and we all love her to pieces - a happy ending to a very horrible start in life for her.
Loved you story about Gracie!  I too can't turn away a stray that needs help which also caused my healthy cats to contract the herpes virus with all the rapid-fire sneezing, URI, drippy eyes, etc.  They just kept cycling every month with all that trouble.  One of my old cats ended up with pneumonia and an eye ulcer.  His eye developed a white cloudy film that was blinding him.  I hated having to keep giving rounds of antibiotics.  You asked for ideas and I will tell you what has seemed to significantly help my several cats including the stray tomcat who I think is the "typhoid harry" that got all of mine sick.  (He attacked one of my indoor cats that happened to get out.)  The tomcat got so terrible sick with URI that I thought he would die.  I had known of people that successfully use colloidal silver (10 ppm strength) to quickly clear up eye infections, and ear infections as well as sinus infections. Our family has been using it for a few years when we start getting a cold and it certainly seems to shorten the duration; even helped to knock out pneumonia within a few days.   I knew that silverbiotic has been used in hospitals for burns and for newborns eyes to prevent serious infection.  

I treated the cats for about a week with colloidal silver (which is mostly distilled water so not much taste so it is easy to administer).  I put a couple of drops in each of their eyes and in each nostril and about 1 cc in each mouth.  That treatment completely cleared the cloudy eye ulcer that one of my cats had.  All of the cats got much better.  It has been about 7 months and none of them have showed signs of much trouble.  Every now and then one or two of the cats might sneeze one sneeze.  If any of them every get a slightly drippy eye, I just put a couple of drops of colloidal silver (10 parts per million) in their eye and no more drips.  What a relief that all my kitties feel much better now.  I sure hope you have good success with the treatment you are giving them.  I just wanted to share what helped mine.  I am grateful for all the other people posting what has helped their cats recover from different illnesses.  I have learned a lot of helpful information here.  Now for the Official Disclaimer:  Don't take my advise always consult with a vet.  
 

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Thanks for the info.  Our Jake seems to be doing much better with the increase in Lactoferrin (250mg morning and evening).  With everyone's testimony here, it can't just be a fluke that hes' better.  Thank goodness for this great cat site, and wealth of holistic information! 
 

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TO LDG:   A friend of mine had an FIV cat who was crashing.  All his White Blood Cells were way down, and he was on his way out.  I suggested she try 4Life Transfer Factor (Classic Formula), as it had

brought up the WBC's (evidenced in blood work) in one of my cats).  Her cat rallied.  All his WBC's came up very quickly into the normal range!   And, he went on to live for many more years.  

(During his crisis time - I had suggested she give him 1 capsule with each meal, 3 times/day, and build up to 6/day spread out over at least 3 meals, which is what I believe she did.). 

She kept him on the TF for the rest of his life - on a lower dose (1-2/Day?).

[A cat can get diarrhea if he/she gets a high dose immediately - RARELY.  This is due to it killing off a lot of germs at once - and, it's the toxins from the germs that cause the diarrhea.  Just keep some baby rice cereal around to mix in his food if this should happen.]

TF is very safe, and will not conflict with any meds (Except for High-Dose Steroids - since Steroids knock down immune cells - and TF builds them up). 

This TF is comprised of the same immune molecules you find in mother's first milk (Colostrum).  It transmits immune molecules directly – and quickly helps the body make more of its own immune cells.

It comes in capsule form - Open Capsule and add the powder to wet pet food. Most animals like the taste – will lick it off the top (Otherwise, mix it into food).

Good Luck, Jackie
 
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