wet FIP another question

im beginning to believe Georgie had FIP...but it seems everything says back leg paralysis is a symptom and he wasnt paralyzed he could feel and move his legs, but he did gave a pot belly as he got bigger i just thought it was a reaction to eating alot everyday but not pooping everyday bc his tummy would go down a bit on the days he would poop....does this still sound like it could have been wet fip? And if so are my other cats in danger? I have a12 year old cat in house too....

Hey

I wrote yesterday to your other post about FIP - did you not see it? FIP can develop from feline coronavirus. Coronavirus is something that's very common in cats and something that they can have for their whole lives without having much trouble. Sometimes it can mutate into FIP, its quite rare but it's nearly always fatal. So unless you're really unlucky enough to have two cats where it mutates, I would say your other cat is safe. Also, he's 12 years old, from what my vet told me, it tends to happen years before then. I guess you already know this stuff if you've been googling other symptoms.

You will never ever know unless you pay out for an autopsy why your kitty died. And as someone else here already said, what is the point? It wouldn't change the outcome.  I think you have to just accept that you had a poorly cat from day one. It happens. Heck, it happens to us humans too. There can be little, if anything that can be done sometimes and it sounds like your poor kitty was in that position.  As someone else also wrote, please please stop hurting yourself with a lot of 'what if's'.. They serves little purpose and all it does is make you go around and around. Please start accepting the fact that your poor kitty was dealt a rotten hand and trying to analyze something that you do not and probably never will have the answer to is just putting yourself through even more pain.  You can keep posting here, please please do, but when it comes to questions like what your poor kitty died of, am afraid nobody here can give you an answer. We can tho help support because a lot of us know what it's like to lose a beloved pet.

 

Try to not drive yourself crazy trying to figure out why your kitten died.  I don't think you're dropping him caused his death.  Liver failure especially in a kitten would show up sooner than 3 weeks.  Don't blame yourself for dropping him either.  Kittens tend to be biters especially if they don't get a full 3 months with their litter mates and momma cat.  They learn bite inhibition from their litter mates and their mom.  Your kitten had a rough start including some physical problems from birth and I don't think there was anything you could do to save him.  Even top notch responsible breeders lose kittens that just never seem to thrive.

i know its just the not knowing is driving me nuts...not as much as not holding him and kissing him is though....i am afraid i will give it to my other cats though

thank you for all of your help and i am so so sorry i did not see the other post... i want to stop doing this to myself for Georgie's sake if not my own but my mind keeps finding things to go over and over on...i know everyone here has been so so amazing in trying to relieve my heart and mind but this feeling of responsibility to George and how i feel like i let him down is hard stuck to my mind...and it is also bc all of his symptoms just don't seem to add up to one conclusion and its like if i had a conclusion id be like ah, ok that had to have been what it was and there really was nothing else i could have done...like finding out how  aloved one passed away in human form, everyone wants a logical if painful answer..but i know im annoying everyone and im so sorry i will try to stop driving myself nuts

but also on the FIP the reason all but one thing fits his passing is that ...how could he have gotten it? Hi mom was a cat i took from my vet bc her owner had dumper her there and she ended up there in a little cage for about 6 months so they asked me to bring her home and i did...and Georgie's dad is my other cat who has been in indoor cat from day one he was born to my cat i rescued from a shelter....so all cats i have ever had have been indoor only and from eveerything i read it seems to stem from other outside infected cats...and if that is so and Georgie DID die from it, how do i make sure none of my other cats have it? I also have one more semi special needs cat at home, she is a mini or dwarf or soewthing...she is about 15 weeks old and the size of a 3 week old..she is perfectly healthy and growing (i think and hope) but id like to keep her that way (her name is Pipsqueak)

Ok, you're not listening!! You cannot give your cat FIP! It is NOT contagious!  FIP develops from something called coronavirus - its a virus that even you and I can have - causes the common cold. But sometimes, just sometimes in cats that virus can mutate and it becomes FIP. I think it depends on the cats own immunity as to why this happens. 

Coronavirus is hugely common - especially in cats that have been in a cattery, or a multicat household. You have a few cats in your house so in fact it is more common with cats in this situation than cats outside, simply because they are all living together. Outside cats tend to be lone creatures..  So your kitten's father or mother  could've quite easily been infected with coronavirus from any other cat in the cattery, or indeed by its own mother. It's most commonly shared by poop - so if they all use the same litter tray (or even if they don't) you can pretty much say that most cats will become infected because they groom themselves and each other - including after a poop.

But please understand that coronavirus on it's own is not really the problem as so so many cats live a full life without any health issues. It is only when something mutates and FIP happens that it is nasty. This all happens in the cat's own body, nothing you or anything else can do about this.  It also does not mean that your other cats will end up with FIP. Keeping your cats apart now after they've been living together may be pointless to protect any from coronavirus. Had I had to guess, I would say that your kitten was poorly from birth. I do not know if she had FIP or it was something else that killed her or a combination of factors.  She was a weak kitty, sadly this happens - nature can be very cruel.

I hope this helps you understand a little better. Nothing you did wrong and there's nothing you can do can stop FIP. You are not responsible and the fact that one of your cats has died - presumably (?) from FIP does not mean that any of your other cats will.

Georgiesmommy said:

 
thank you for all of your help and i am so so sorry i did not see the other post... i want to stop doing this to myself for Georgie's sake if not my own but my mind keeps finding things to go over and over on...i know everyone here has been so so amazing in trying to relieve my heart and mind but this feeling of responsibility to George and how i feel like i let him down is hard stuck to my mind...and it is also bc all of his symptoms just don't seem to add up to one conclusion and its like if i had a conclusion id be like ah, ok that had to have been what it was and there really was nothing else i could have done...like finding out how  aloved one passed away in human form, everyone wants a logical if painful answer..but i know im annoying everyone and im so sorry i will try to stop driving myself nuts

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So... you will never find out for sure what your kitten had because nothing adds up to one conclusion.... so why keep searching? Please let it go and look after yourself and your gorgeous other cats. Hugs

ooooh  yes you have cleared alot up for me, everything i have been readin has said this FIP thing is highly contagious so i was worried for all my others but mostly for my senior and my mini....im sorry i am driving you as nuts as i am ...with my sons all being grown and me being single these guys are all i have now lol

thank you

I did not see the beginning of Georgie's story, with his early symptoms, but since I have been in rescue for many years, I have seen many instances of FIP and no two are exactly alike.  I have seen dry FIP and wet FIP, and the dry is harder to diagnose and goes on longer with more good periods in between and manifests more in a kittens failure to thrive and gain weight, and often a very grumpy and unhappy disposition.  The wet FIP, on the other hand, seems to go like wildfire once it hits, and the sooner you can determine that this is what the disease is, the sooner you can put your kitten to sleep and spare him future suffering, such as losing control of his back legs or having constant thirst.  You are still asking so many questions that I would like to recommend a VERY long article to you, by Ron Hines,DVM, PhD.  It is clearly written in terms you can understand, and at the beginning, on the frst page, there are links you can click to take you to the answers to various common questions you may have, like where did my cat get this disease, and can my other cats catch it from him.  You will probably want to jump around through those, and eventually you will probably read the whole thing and have a much deeper undesrtanding of this puzziling and heartbreaking disease.  Here is a link to the article:

http://www.2ndchance.info/fip.htm

He opens the article with the following paragraph:  If you chanced upon this article looking for hope for your darling cat, I am afraid I cannot offer you a cure that your veterinarian did not tell you about. But if you would be satisfied with some understanding of what has happened to your cat, why it happened, and some solace in dealing with this tragedy; I might be able to help you a bit.

PS - My "avatar" picture here is my beloved Lurch.  He was a rescue I took in after he was found in a ditch and had road burn and face ijuries indicating he had been thrown out of a car.  He spent four weeks getting better, and then he got FIP and spent only another two weeks with me before it was clearly time to send him to the Rainbow Bridge to wait for me.  I am not over it yet, he was special and got deep in my heart in the six weeks I had him.  Even though losing him was like having my heart ripped in half, I am not sorry I loved him that way.  He taught me so much.  When I leave this earth, I will go straight to the Rainbow Bridge and scoop up Lurch, and the rest of the cats waiting there can follow us across the bridge.