Alternatives to Urinary SO food

geckotreefrog

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HELP!!!- I'm In same situation as the original poster : http://www.thecatsite.com/t/254489/alternatives-to-expensive-urinary-so-food & have read SO much helpful info here. My 7year old cat has had a calcium oxalate stone in the pst.  We knew which type, bec a stone a little smaller than a penncil eraser happened to pop out on the Vet's examining table. She was put on Science diet CD (Kidney diet?) wet, & her urinary problems were way reduced, but not eliminated. I switched her to Blue grain free chicken Dry for 2 reasons: There was so much junk in the script food (What felines eat grains in nature...?), and when I must be out of town, a friend  has to drive to my house 1-2 times each day to open the can! It became a burden, & I don't have a neighbor who will do this.  My cat is VERY overweight also, so I switched her to Blue Wilderness dry Salmon (Now I know to avoid Fish!!!), which has the highest protein content, like cats in the wild. ~ same time as the switch to Blue Salmon, we adopted an indoor/ outdoor rescue cat. I can't tell If  it's the stress from the new cat, or the switch to Blue salmon that has Way increased our Vet trips. (The new cat is great, mellow.  But, our 7 year old indoor cat is very stressed by his non aggressive presence, even after doing the slow intro, food far apart, separate litter boxes...). So, I don't know what to do, & it's getting expensive.  I welcome any additional thoughts!!  

Any thoughts on this: In humans, meat is acidic, and the way we balance this is by consuming leafy greens. I wonder if cats are the same; maybe regularly providing grasses, like the type you see in pet stores would create an alkalinizing effect. My sister has 4 cats, they are mostly outdoors, so they are free to eat grass/ greens anytime. Maybe it is just luck, but they eat cheap food, & never get calcium stones.

Clearly, I need to go back to wet food, & the greens sure won't hurt. The biggest question is weather to go w/ Blue (or similar) wet Non fish or go with a prescription diet that may improve her calcium stones, but would likely add to her obesity & possible diabetes.

Here's another question: If cats need to avoid fish, is there a good omega 3 fatty acid supplement that isn't fish based? Or, is phosphorous... not present in fish oil, making it fine to add to the diet? (Most humans don't get Nearly enough omega 3's unless they supplement, because most of our meat isn't "wild caught". Feed lot animals are fed grains (mostly corn & soy, not natural for them), which changes their fat profile in a very negative way. When they aren't eating pasture greens, they have very little omega 3. (Unfortunately, so do we, when we don't eat mostly wild caught/ grass fed meat).  Since the meat sources for most pet food is from feedlot animals, our pets are also likely low in omega 3 fatty acids. 

Another question: Is it possible to disolve calcium oxalate stones? I have read conflicting answers. Crystals never show up in our cat's urine, but since she has had one c.o. stone pop out 2 years ago, I'm wondering if there are more. She has Not had an ultrasound, so I'm thinking that Any food changes may not help her if a possible cause is not first found & treated. My vet said if this second round of antibiotics & cortisone don't help her, we need to do an ultrasound, If C.O. stones are found, our grand ttl for ultrasound + surgery will be around $1,200.00 Yikes!!!

So again, I appreciate Any help from this wonderful group of cat lover's like me!!

Maybe I need to just try a holistic vet ASAP!  Again, Thanks for any ideas!!!   
 
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Calcium oxalate stones cannot be dissolved through diet like struvite crystals can. They can only be surgically removed. In addition, if they are calcium oxalate, Hill's c/d can actually make things worse. Calcium oxalate stones generally form in urine pH that is too low (i.e. too acidic). Hill's c/d (and s/d) have an added urine acidifier in these formulations (methionine) to acidify urine in cases of struvite crystals which tend to form in too high urine pH. What exactly did the urinalysis test show?

I would encourage you to read what this vet has to say about urinary tract issues in cats and prescription diets.

http://www.catinfo.org/?link=urinarytracthealth#Prescription_Diets

She also has a lot of great information on dealing with feline obesity.

http://www.catinfo.org/?link=felineobesity
 
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