Stray Cat Won't Stop Diarrhea

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Hi everyone. I just discovered this site, so forgive me if this topic (or something similar) has already been discussed.

A little background on my problem: About two months ago this cat showed up in my neighborhood and my mother and I decided to care for it since we are cat lovers. We didn't try to bring it inside the house because we already have a cat, who is very territorial. This stray cat, who I named Hissy (because it likes to hiss/cry until it gets food) keeps pooping a light to muddy brown or gray stool all over our porch and flowerbed, no matter what we feed it. We've given it canned (usually Fancy Feast or Great Choice or Friskies) and dry (Meow Mix or Science Diet). We gave her some deworming medicine my mother found at Petsmart, thinking that was the problem, but it didn't help at all. When we first found her, Hissy was very lethargic and ran away any time we opened the door. Now, she hops up on the windowsill outside of my kitchen, and while still pretty distant, has come to recognize my appearance and my car when I drive home.

We thought maybe something worse could be wrong with Hissy than just typical diarrhea. I've read a lot of stuff about taking a stool sample and giving it to the vet, or having the vet run a blood test. We tried calling the vet asking what could be wrong, but she insisted we bring the cat in for a check-up. We can't do that for a couple of reasons. First, we don't have the money to pay for another cat's vet bills. Second, we're afraid that if we capture her, take her to the vet, and let her go again, she'll run off and refuse to trust us. And third...

About three weeks ago Hissy showed up at our door with a kitten, and then two, and now there's five. We want to catch them, but they run off at the sight of us and we don't have traps. Even if we did, all the shelters/fosters like the Humane Society are full and won't take cats if they think they are feral, since they don't have a chance for adoption (another topic for another thread). We though maybe Hissy was having diarrhea so much because she was malnourished and stressed from her pregnancy. The kittens are close to being weaned, so we thought that would improve her health. We've been feeding all of them more food more frequently, but every time we feed Hissy, she just poops it back out later, in a mushy, runny stool that smells terrible. She acts like she is starving, no matter what we feed her or how many times. And, while her stool is becoming less gray and more light brown/tan, it's a lot more frequent than when she first started showing up.

Is it because of what we are feeding her? Or is it something more? I want to try to help her without taking her to the vet. I've heard medazoline helps with indigestion and other problems, but I don't think I can get it without a prescription, which my vet won't give me without bringing the cat to her. I don't think this cat is feral. She is easily scared and very protective of her babies. She even caught a rabbit for them one night and dropped it in my yard for them to eat when I stopped feeding them canned food. My theory is someone knew she was sickly and pregnant, and dropped her in my neighborhood because it is one of the nicer ones in town, believing someone would take care of her and her babies. I don't know what to do. I just hope that whatever she has doesn't transfer to her babies. So far they are all very healthy, even the runt of the litter. But she just won't get better, no matter what I do.

How can I make her well? (P.S. sorry for the novel, but I really need help.)
 

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Thanks for caring about Hissy and her kittens. Gray stool is usually an indication that the food is not being digested properly. That plus the diarrhea suggests she may have other issues beyond parasites. What was the dewormer used? Most OTC dewormers are not as effective or as safe as the ones you can get from a vet. Also, more than one treatment is usually required. Unfortunately, she and her kittens will need to be treated. They also all need to be spayed/neutered or you will soon have an explosion of cats. The Humane Society usually has a TNR program that will help you trap them and provide either free or low cost spay/neuter. Some also provide food if they approve you as a feral colony caretaker. Reach out to shelters or rrscues in your area who may be able to provide foster homes for the kittens to get socialized and have a chance at adoption. I was amazed at how many programs there are in my city once I started looking.
 

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Giardia infestation is one possibility. Animals can get it from water that wildlife has soiled.  http://www.vcahospitals.com/main/pet-health-information/article/animal-health/giardia-in-cats/119 . So can humans.

Much like you, I ended up with cats from a stray who brought her kittens to our house. We adopted out most, but the last to be tamed (from feral) had the same thing. He was a kitten. It took a while and a lot of medicine to cure him.

However he was a kitten, and it affects them more than adult cats. Very likely there is something else going on. If she has no bowel control and constant diarrhea, might be something completely different.
 
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I don't remember the deworming medicine my mother used, but the only kind listed on the website is Tradewinds Tape Worm for Cats. Whatever we used we gave her about three rounds over the course of a few weeks, but it didn't work. Besides the diarrhea she seems perfectly fine. When she first started coming around, she would hiss a lot and try to scratch us. Now, she just meows/cries and even has started letting me pet her a little. But the kittens won't come near me. I set out a large carry crate, and they all have started sleeping in it since it has gotten colder. But I have to clean it out soon since Hissy has popped in there also.

Since she has started letting me pet her, I was able to hold up her tail and look at her butt. Her rectum is very swollen and there are red like bubbles blocking the channel, though I think that is mostly the cause of excessive irritation. From what I could see, there were no worms or ticks. Is there an OTC giardia medicine that I can use to help her? I really don't want to take her to the vet unless I absolutely have to, mostly because I can't afford it, but also because I don't want to separate her from her kittens and/or have her not trust me ever again.

Also, the university where I go to school has a Feral Cat Society that TNRs the feral cats on campus. So far none of the members have gotten back to me, but I was wondering if it would be considered inhumane to release them as a family on campus until they are old enough for the Society to TNR them. The Society keeps in touch with the HSWT, but I would really like to have the kittens and mother spayed or neutered before they're release. Can the mother still be spayed if she is sick? Also, how old do the kittens have to be to be spayed or neutered? Thanks!
 
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I really want to get Metronizadole and Fenbendazole, since they help with Giardia, but it seems you need a prescription. I know you can buy Flagyl for humans OTC, but I don't know if it works on cats. Do you think my vet would be willing to write a prescription without seeing Hissy? Or is there a place where I can get it without a prescription? Any info would be greatly appreciated!
 

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I don't believe there is an over the counter giardia treatment. I remember that Jeffery got metronidazole. I had to mix it in baby food because there was no way to administer it via syringe.

http://pets.webmd.com/cats/coccidiosis-giardiasis-cats-kittens

I don't know what you can offer to cats for the intractable diarrhea. there isn't any over the counter stuff that doesn't include salycite compounds that cats shouldn't have without vet supervision. It's basically aspirin--or the compound from willow bark. Also be cautious about homeopathic compounds that include "willow bark" as that is where aspirin is derived.

My vet had my cat on an OTC anti-diarrhea medicne because of the risk of dehydration. But he visited the vet weekly while he was getting treatment. 

to be diagnosed with Giardia, a vet would have to do a test on the stool to see if the cysts are in the stool. 
 

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Coccidia also causes severe diarrhea (projectile!)... My last 2 kittens had that and had to be quarentined for 2 months til they got rid of it. 

Any way you can trap those kittens, take them inside and start socializing them?   Stray cats have a very tough life. If you can get the kittens socialized you may be able to get them re-homed.
 
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