pregnant seal point siamese

My siamesd cat Princess is 64 days gestation. She's been eating a lot and you can see the babies move. More than three for sure. Over the past week she's almost doubled in size. This is her second litter. Her first litter came a few days early. She ran circles in the room, wouldn't eat or drink, and hated when I left her. She had three kittens. Squished one, didnt take the sac off the other, and neglected to feed the third (dont think she had milk). This time is completely different. Her mucus sac hasnt burst like last time and she's still eating, but her stomach is in the right place (makes herwaddle) and you can tell she's dilated. She's been like this for 48 hours. How long before she has her kittens? I'm determined to save this litter; what guarantee do I have that she'll take care of them tbis time?
Btw she is missing a few brain cells...quite a loopy cat. Neverbeen all there or really smart. I'm worried...

My avatar is Princess taken a week ago.

MiaowMiaow said:

 I'm determined to save this litter;

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  Ah, just to be prepared, and step in.  Like most do.     

I shall be frank, Im a little surprised you let the third go, as its death was no accident nor caused by you not being there at the critical moment, if I interpret your short description correctly.

There is almost always kmr or goat milk to get.  Or some emergency solution.

Some useful links which I stole shamelessly from my collegues:

One from this site:  http://www.thecatsite.com/a/pregnancy-and-delivery-in-cats

http://www.icatcare.org/advice/my-cat-having-kittens    ( This is a link to a group of articles on cat pregnancy, birth and kittens.   Read the ones on normal cat birth and on " when to wait and when to worry"  )  

http://www.cat-world.com.au/parturition-birth-in-cats

Please continue to report and ask!

Good luck!

The vet wont spay her. She's allergic to her fur and they dont feel they should perform surgery with her skin issues. I'm not a breeder, she just happens to like to get pregnant. As far as the third kitten, it was suckling sometimes but mom didnt hav milk. My mom advised waiting til morning to feed the kitten kmr but it passed overnight. Princess was oblivious...wanted petting as her kitten was dying :-(

She should not be breeding with those issues. She will probably pass them on to her babies, poor things . Personally, I would find another vet to spay her; I don't think allergies are a good reason to not spay. But even if you can't find a vet to spay her, at least keep her from getting pregnant. Her genetic issues are not things that should be passed along to future generations.

With this litter, be more attentive and proactive. If you notice a kitten isn't getting enough milk, supplement feed immediately (it would be a good idea to have KMR and eyedroppers/bottles on hand before the birth). If you see she doesn't take the sac off of one, be ready to step in and clean the kitten yourself. Try to keep an eye on everyone so she doesn't squish any. Etc. If you know any experienced breeders or rescuers who work with pregnant females, see if you can get tips from them.

MiaowMiaow said:

The vet wont spay her. She's allergic to her fur and they dont feel they should perform surgery with her skin issues. I'm not a breeder,

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Sounds peculiar.  Still, please plan on spaying her, especielly as you are not a breeder.  Consider finding another vet for second opinion. If you feel embarrased telling this to your vet (old or new!), you can tell you sought after a more experienced surgeon, who is able to do spaying also in a complicated situation.

And good luck with this new litter coming any day now... which we cant know exactly...

How long does it take to bottlefeed one newborn kitten in one sitting??

It depends on how easily the kitten takes to the bottle :dk:. But, yeah, in general, handraising kittens is extremely difficult and time-consuming.

can you at least give me an estimate? I'm trying to make a schedule bouncing back and forth between school and home and I'm calculating feeding five kittens. 

For 5 kittens it could take an hour to hour and a half to feed and clean them (depending on how well each kitten eats a and if they have difficulty suckling) You will have to prompt and assist them with urinating/popping.

They will need to eat every 2-3 hrs around the clock. So, you will go through the whole process about 10-12 times each day. But, the first week I would not go longer than 2-2.5 hrs without feeding them.

When they reach about 4 wks old, you can decrease feedings to about every 4 hours.

Also, you will need to weigh them daily with a food scale and monitor how much each kitten eats.

thanks! I don't have access to a scale, though..

You will need to get one. This is one of the most important things for kittens. Kittens should gain some weight on a daily basis. If they do not, then something is wrong and they will need to be seen by a vet.

Hand-rearing kittens is time consuming; but, the hardest part is the first 6 wks. After this, the kittens should be eating well on their own.

They will be ready for permanent homes between 10-12.

Having a scale for measuring them every day is essential also if the mom is taking care of them. So it is not only an emergency gimmick.   These scales, measuring in grammes, and best if its electronical, doesnt need to be anything fancy.  They are quite cheap, for  kitchen, or for mail.

You can probably borrow it from some neighbour too.

Good luck!

Thanks. Still no kittens yet

She's thrown up twice and is quite active. Does this mean anything?

She wont eat or drink, threw up again, and is going crazy...

She spends a lot of time in the litterbox. She started eating some and she's calmed down a bit.

Good she is a little better. If not, I was going to be nervous.   Proceed to keep you eyes open, and if there is any new worsening, contact your vet.

ps.  This being "crazy"  may have been she felt unwell in the stomach, probably was a little constipated.

You can add to her food som crushed canned pumpking, the unflavored sort.

*vibes!*

Okay. I am out of the house today and have my dad watching her. When I left, she wasn't drinking much and kept upsetting her food bowl. It appears she used the litterbox quite a bit, both for waste and vomit. 

Much vomit and not drinking much doesnt sound too good. esp not in a high preg.   Once or twice no problem, but she is doing it much...   Was the poo normal or rare?  OR very hard / constipated?

Does she seem to have any fever?   It is possible to take the temp in the armpit of the foreleg, pretend you are playing a new game.  In the armpit the normal temp will be slightly above 37 Celsius, or 99  Fahrenheit.

In the behind almost 39C, and 102 Fahrenheit.    If it is above theese, it looks like fever.

Shortly before the delivery, the temp often falls some.

Try also to give some extra water.  If she doesnt want to drink herself, try to give it with a spoon or dropper, or something, to the cheek, NOT into the throat.

Im not sure it is critical as yet, but I myself would prob tried to talk with my vet.

Phone and ask, I think.  The vet will know what follow up questions to give.

*vibes!*