Throwing up

Well I found a kitten (7 months old) and he had a throw up problem.  I kept switching food.  7 years later he still has the problem.  I took him to my vet (yes throughout the years), many test, a lot of $$ and he (vet) put him on Royal Canin prescription diet.  It helped a lot but he still throws up.  When he throws up the food still is in tact, shape and all.  Usually throws up within 5 minutes of eating.

I took him to another vet and told me to put him on strictly wet food.  I did, Blue Buffalo - Wilderness.  it helped a lot but has occasion throws up.  The vet called and said all looks good with the blood work and all but looks like pre-kidney disease.  So I figured I would transfer him to raw.  He loves boiled chicken and I don't seem to see he throws that up.  But looks like he is throwing up on Rad Cat.  So I am going to lay off of the Raw Rad Cat and see how he does on Primal Formula.

Yes I also limit his intake on the amount, so I feed him several times a day small portions to help keep him from throwing up but it doesn't always work.

Any suggestions? By the way x-ray has shown up nothing.  He is neutered male about 6-7 lbs, ever over.

Sorry your cat is having problems. But you're to be commended for trying all avenues to get your kitty feeling better.
Raw is a good direction to go to, in my opinion.
Which RadCat did you give him? Maybe he is allergic to the protein in that RadCat.
You might want to post a similar inquiry on the raw and home-cooked food subforum under Nutrition. Since your cat does well on cooked plain chicken, you might want to go that route, with the proper supplements of course. Lots of good info on that subforum.

I posted this under Cats Health but was told to come to Nutrition.

My cat has been throwing up since I found him at 7 months old.  Numerous vet visits, x-rays, blood work, shots and food changes didn't help.  Finally one vet put him, now 7 years old, on Royal Canin, Intestinal Hi protein dry prescription food.  That helped about 75%.  great, well that didn't last.  A year later his throwing up increased.  I took him to another vet.  He stopped the dry and said strictly wet food now, no dry.   I put him on Royal Canin digest sensitive.  That worked for a while then he started throwing up.  And constipation sets in.  Back to the vet, $$ later the vet told me only wet food.  I put him on Blue Buffalo Wilderness, multiple small feedings throughout the day, and he was doing much better.  Later the vet called and said he was pre-kidney disease.  I've read having cats on only dry can cause kidney disease, so he is still on BB Wilderness and I incorporated Rad Cat RAW, well he has thrown up on that.  I don't think he is throwing up on Primal Formula.  I am trying to narrowing it down.  But it looks to me it's the RAD CAT.  He seems to be doing fine on boiled chicken breast (like breast better) and thigh.   But only time will tell.   I want to find a food that will help him stop throwing up if that's ever possible.  I am keeping him on BB Wilderness since he seems to keep that down longer even though he turns his nose up at it at times.

Any advice how I can get him to stop throwing up.  He is male, 7 years old, 6 lb average, lucky if I can get him over 7 lbs.

PS he is a very picky eater.

When he vomits, is there hair in the vomit? I see from the beautiful picture that he has medium long hair. I read your post in Health and they advised you to check the Raw Feeding sub-forum. If you like, I will ask a moderator to put your post there.

That would be great, send me where I should be

No fur, just food.  Sometime he will throw up just liquid.  When he throws up its just food, no fur, plastic or anything else.

I had a cat that used to throw up a lot.  I thought it was the food, like you.  Kept changing it around.  It really wasn't the food.  And switching his food around all the time may not be helping in the long run.

Having said that, I agree with the one vet to go with wet food.  Any wet food is probably going to be better than just about any dry food.  I think a lot of cats don't drink enough water and at least wet food gives them that.   You could even try adding more water to canned.

Maybe you need to isolate which proteins he can have from the ones he can't? Some cats cannot handle beef, for example.

If he's doing good on boiled chicken, check out the raw and home-cooked stickies for a supplement thatwill balance and complete the meal. That may solve your problem!

I agree with Ritz. Try boiled chicken only for a few days. If he does not throw that up, you may really want to consider a home-made diet. We can help you figure out how to balance it properly.

I had RAD CAT samplers, Lamb and Turkey, they were out of the chicken.  I can't remember if he had trouble with the lamb or Turkey or both.

moderncat2 said:

 
That would be great, send me where I should be

No fur, just food.  Sometime he will throw up just liquid.  When he throws up its just food, no fur, plastic or anything else.

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You seem to be getting replies here, so I think it would be best to leave it alone. You might want to start a thread in the Raw Feeding forum, also.

moderncat2 said:

I had RAD CAT samplers, Lamb and Turkey, they were out of the chicken.  I can't remember if he had trouble with the lamb or Turkey or both.

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I'd start a journal. It will really help you figure out which direction to go with him, keeping track of what you feed, when, and when he throws up.

When you fed the Rad Cat, even though you don't know which protein it was, did he throw up almost right after eating it, or later?

Many cats take a while to transition to raw red meat. I have one kitty that - over 1.5 years into raw feeding - still can't eat a red meat unless it is 50% or less of the meal. When we started, any red meat came back up immediately.

You might also want to consider using digestive enzymes. I use Prozyme original. It takes a very small amount and aids digestion.

I am not sure if it's some kind of stomach disorder, food quantity intake or just type of food.    I am not sure where I should post my unsolved kitty issues.    Not sure if I should post in two places??  Or which is the best??

Well, vomiting is often a sign of IBD, or developing IBD. If you've already done the testing to ensure his organs are functioning normally, then you're left with exploring diet to manage the condition. If you want help with raw feeding, best to post in that subforum: http://www.thecatsite.com/f/65/raw-home-cooked-cat-food

Many, many kitties have had their IBD / allergy / digestive issues resolve with a switch to raw - the food is fresh, unprocessed, and if you make your own, you control the inputs. IMO, it's kind of like a human eating dry cereal and canned stew, developing digestive issues or allergies, and then switching to eating fresh fruits, veggies, and making homemade meals.

If you have questions about diagnostics, medical options for treatment, then the health forum is the best place to post. It just so happens that for IBD, the options are typically prednisone and diet.

There is an active thread in the health forum exploring all kinds of different angles as re: IBD, where people with IBD kitties chat about their experiences and treatments (even though the title of the thread is about pancreatitis). You may find this interesting and helpful: http://www.thecatsite.com/t/264363/sebastian-is-back-at-the-vet-suspected-pancreatitis-again The IBD talk begins somewhere on page 2 of the thread, I think.

And here is a transition-to-raw thread by someone whose kitty had IBD that presented as vomiting, not diarrhea: http://www.thecatsite.com/t/242212/just-another-starting-raw-thread

...and just reiterating my earlier post. A journal will really help. :nod:

So I eliminated RAD Cat entirely.   He is eating boiled chicken breast and or thigh meat.  I also give him Primal Freeze Dried Formula. 

So far no throwing up, it's been couple of days.  Are both of these together, served separately good enough for nutrients?  Do I need to add something else?  He is a picky eater so I am shocked he is eating the Primal formula (a lot of water added)

He gets boiled chicken twice a day as well as the Primal Formula - small doses to prevent throw up issues by eating too much too fast.  In my earlier logs, the other raw food was given in small quantities for the same reason but still threw up but much later in time then a previous can food

thanks

I would definitely recommend starting a thread in the raw & cooked subforum ( http://www.thecatsite.com/f/65/raw-home-cooked-cat-food ) asking for help to balance meals.

It's safe to feed up to 15% of the diet unbalanced, but it sounds like 2/3 of his diet is unbalanced being just boiled meat. Are you shredding the boiled meat? Cutting it up into chunks? Grinding it? It is VERY important to add back all the water used in boiling it, as vitamins and minerals do leach into the water used for cooking. Baking losses less nutrients, but even then, adding back the pan drippings is important. ...and it still needs the addition of some vitamins and a source of calcium, but there are a number of ways to do it.

If you want to just make batches of cat food based on those ingredients (chicken breast, chicken thigh), here is a thread discussing cooked cat food recipes: http://www.thecatsite.com/t/263751/cooked-recipes-thread

Once made, these can be portioned up into meal-sized packages and thawed to use as needed.