Cat biting herself (bleeding) on a nodular mass - refusing medication - photo

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Wow! Four hours?! Good grief. Sounds like they were very thorough and trying to get it all, so that is good. I wonder if because it was on the muscle that is why is was bothering her so much. 
I really hope and am sending many vibes that this does not come back and that it is not cancer! 
 
 

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I think being on a muscle would make it more irritating because it's going to move every time the muscle moves.  I hope the biopsy comes back negative and whatever this is doesn't come back.
 
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I hope so too!!! Thank you all for the positive vibes.
I will have a better understanding tomorrow and will know how long until the biopsy results are out.
But the doctor should be able to tell or at least have a wise guess based on the way it looked....
A few hours to go....
 
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Here are some older images of lucy...
Wishing she goes back to being the proud healthy happy queen...

I have been thinking, what could jave caused this... her behaviour, stress levels and this nodule...it all started after spaying her in 2011, and then all got worse when I fostered the 3 kittens 3 months ago....

I must make it up to her.
 
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Lucy is back home! She was so happy to be pack. She allows me to pet her neck anything else I get a hiss.

She has a bandage so I freed her of the collar today so that she can clean herself up. She wet herself in the car and she doesn't let me clean her so...

The biopsy results will be back on Monday!
The vet is sure it is tumour not a cyst, but the biopsy will tell if it is cancerous. I still don't know what that means but I will be able to understand when I get the results.

I am not sure what to pay attention for. Last year she had severe fever after the operation....
 

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Lucy is a beautiful cat! I'm sure she's so glad to be home. Did they give her anything for pain?

I hope it's not cancer! 
  
 

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I, too, hope it is not cancer but we will be here to support you and Lucy no matter what! :hugs: :rub: I am glad that she is back home, comfortable and happy. I think you will be keeping a close watch on her and will know if something is off - if she is not feeling well. Keep in close contact with your wonderful vet on how she is doing and recovering. Will be waiting to hear on that biopsy. :cross: :vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes:
 
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Thank you everyone. This means a lot.
He gave her antibiotics only. She seems to be fine though just a minor limp on the leg close to the wound, and she is annoyed with the bandage on her hand -where the serum was...

Purrs from both of us
 
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Thank you! I am so glad to be on TCS. You have no idea how easier it made it this time!
 

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What a gorgeous kitty! You are being such a good parent to her. I have fostered several cats that pee in the car. You can buy some unscented puppy pee pads at walmart or the pet store, and you can line the cat's carrier with them using tape. I had to do that when my boy was having chemotherapy and it was a long car ride. Another thing you can do is to put the carrier inside a large garbage bag, like putting it in the center of a flower. You do not have to close it or anything, but that will help to keep from cat pee getting on your car seats and the pee pads in the carrier will help too.

If this problem started when your cat  was spayed, did she get her shots then too? I don't remember where the location of the tumor is, but there is always the possibility of a vaccine associated sarcoma or inflammation at or near the location of the shot.. Also vaccines can trigger other problems in cats. There is no absolute proof regarding temperament, but there is a lot of observational evidence. Many vaccines (all 1 year vaccines except the Merial brand, and all 3 year vaccines, Merial included) contain an adjuvant, a serum designed to jump start the vaccine and trigger an immune response in the cat. It is known to have idiocyncratic effects in some cats.
 
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Hey BarB. Lucy is way older than I am (cat vs human age) she could be my grandmother ;) I think of her as a sister.

This was actually the first time she pees herself. Ever! I think it iisa mixture of getting stuck in traffic (she isnt used to that) and I think she did not pee in the hospital because the cat unit did not have a litter box.

We had pads and towels in the carrier so it was fine but she felt bad wetting her furr and smelling stinky.

I am not sure which vaccines you mean. She used to get some sort of shots whenever in heat and the yearly shots, one of them they call "the breath vaccine"

She was about 11 when she was spayed. The thing is, she is supposed to be my brother's cat and he wouldn't agree to get her spayed earlier!

The location of the tumour is on the right, it is on her back but more towards the back leg. You might actually be right, it is a location for vaccines!

Besides the tumour she is absolutely fine, kidneys, liver, blood...all! She did a blood test last year and another one 2 days ago and the vet said she is super healthy. In fact she never got sick!!! Like ever!!!
Until the tumour showed up and I was fooled by the vet last year to remove it, obviously he didn't do a good job, and it came back this year.
 

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine-associated_sarcoma

Here is a link about sarcomas and granulomas and other tumors that can occur at the location of animal vaccinations.

I have not heard of the breath vaccine before?

I hope all is well with her and that she will be fine!

Even tho u think of her as a sister, you are her parent and she is the child! You make the decisions that keep her well and safe :-). She is biologically older than you, but still a toddler when it comes to most things ;-), crying to remove her cone etc.
People think kitties know more than they do, because they have "catitude" lol. But they are just like little babies. A good friend of mine on this site once told me, if you want a kitty to stop doing something, give them a more attractive alternative, just as you would a child. I find that works every time ;-).
 

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I'm glad you're happy with your vet now and I'm eager to hear the results of the biopsy and what the vet has told you. She is indeed a very beautiful cat. My cats are my babies. Even my lotto who I had to send to rainbow bridge in may. He was 18-1/2 but still my baby. My vet gives vaccinations by the shoulders. Hopefully she will come to me to give blighty his 2nd vaccine and to clip their claws. I'm unable to take both to the vet because of the weight. I don't drive and the vet is a 5 minutes walk from me. If it was just blighty I could manage. He doesn't weigh anything but not both. Useless old woman that I am.
It looks like we're all praying for
 

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So sorry. It went by accident.
It seems like we're all praying for Lucy. That should do something.
 
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Hi everyone. The doctor just called. Lucygirl has sarcoma...
He said that he could investigate further into which type it is, but preferred not to. (He said it will not change much for now)

He reassured me that he did his best to remove every microbit of the tumour, but we can never be sure about microscopic cells, hoping there aren't any.

I asked if we need to xray to check for metastase but he preferred not to at this stage, stating that lucy needs to rest now and we need to observe...

he also said she is too old and her body can't deal with all treatments.

So.... there we are....

I feel it is my ignorance as a teen (when my brother got her I was 14) that caused this...

now I am scared to vaccinate the kittens... they are another issue to deal with though (can't find them homes!and lucy hates them, and ill be leaving the country soon)

This feels heavy

:( :( :( :( :'(
 

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At the moment my kitties don't do anything I tell them to do. They don't even answer to their names yet. I don't remember how long it took my other cats to answer. My first cat knew their names too. If I called one of them she would come racing to get to me first.
How's Lucy doing?
 

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I am really sorry.  That is an unusual place for a vaccination at least unusual here in the U.S.
 

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I'm sorry to hear about the diagnosis and am sending lots of :vibes::vibes::vibes: Lucy's way. Don't beat yourself up about it. Nowadays vaccinations are usually given in the legs, so amputation is an option in the event of a sarcoma. That probably wasn't the case back when Lucy was vaccinated. Vets also don't vaccinate as often as they used to and are normally more aware of the risks.
 
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