Vet will neuter our cat at 8-9 months old... Isn't that too late?

chiarabab · Jun 30, 2013

Hi guys

First off: I do not live in North America, but in Europe, more specifically in northern Italy. Also, I'm a new cat owner, and I'm informing myself mostly on english websites. That is starting to be a problem, since I often cannot compare foods and habits and I get confused over simple stuff as the difference between combing and brushing

Two days ago I brought Fletcher to the vet for his second shot and a visit. He is a very healthy, big guy, just turned 3 months old and is an indoor only cat. While there, I asked the vet when we would start talking about neutering him, and I was taken aback a little by his response, having read your advices over and over: he said that the clinic would neuter him at about 8 months old. After I expressed my perplexity, he said we could start talking about it at around 5 or 6 months old. Now, isn't it a little late anyway? I'd rather not go to another clinic for the following (non financial, really) reasons:

this clinic is literally behind our condo, and we don't have a car. taking him to another vet, possibly recommended by friends, would mean a trip through several public transportation vehicles, and the weather is HOT here.
I love the vets there. they are wonderful people, work long hours and they have the best attitude towards animals. They love Fletcher and Fletcher loves them, which is weird because he's not really that confortable around strangers. And most of all...
... It is the clinic of a voluntary animalistic association: they save stray animals, both domestic and wild, they provide for them and cure them (even those severely hurt: here in Italy there is no such thing as a "kill" shelter) and find them home (if they are domestic animals) or release back into the wild in a properly selected environment. The clinic is not cheaper than the average vet clinic, but I feel like I'm giving my money not only to good people who take good care of my pet but to a good cause as well.
finally, everyone of my cat-owning friends spayed or neutered their pets around that age, between 6 and 8 months. So I'm afraid that taking Fletcher to another clinic would be useless since this could just be how they do things around here

However, living in a small flat I'm really scared of the consequences of the kitten starting to spray around.

So, my questions are:

when does a kitten start spraying? is there a way to delay that moment or to see it coming?
if a kitten sprays in the house, is there a method to conceal or get rid of the smell? I'm very clean regarding him, I scoop the litter several times a day, check his bottom after he goes an whip it with a wet towell if it's not perfect, clean his ears etc. I really don't want the house to smell bad but mostly...
... I want him to be healthy and happy. The vet says that the delayed neutering will help him develop better, but I read around that a sexually mature not neutered kitten can be a very stressed house pet.
would you call another clinic just to check, or given the informations above you would stay with the current clinic?
should I push the vet to perform the surgery before 6 months of age or that would offend him?

I'm really confused and the geographic gap is not helping

I probably just need some reassurance, since I got this kitten I'm just terrified of doing something wrong.

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lilin · Jun 30, 2013

He is so adorable! What a lovely kitten.

It sounds like your vet is part of the "old guard" who still believes neutering young is bad. It's not. Studies have shown that kittens neutered early develop just fine. In fact, in a lot of ways, it's much better.

He can definitely start spraying and displaying other aggressive behaviors by 8 or 9 months. In fact, some cats go through puberty as early as 6 months.

Unneutered animals can be very stressed, especially if they're indoor. Ever fiber of their being is telling them to roam and mate, and they're kept from doing that.

Also, the earlier you neuter, the less likely the cat is to develop reproductive cancers later in life. There's really no downside to neutering early. Fletcher is actually old enough to be safely neutered right now, as a matter of fact.

I would try doing some research and then bringing that in for the vet to examine, and argue your case. If he still refuses, I would call around and go to another vet who will do it sooner for this one procedure.

bellacat · Jun 30, 2013

Five or Six months will be okay - I have had many cats over the years and they were all neutered at around that same age as where I live thats the age they are done. If he is the only cat in the household its less likely he will spray. If there are any accidents you can purchase urine neutralizer products that work really well they break down the proteins in the urine and get rid of the smell - you spray the product and leave it for a while on any urine and it foams up then you can clean the area. The one I use is called Odarid - there are several similar products around that do the same thing - get unscented though if you can.

peaches08 · Jun 30, 2013

One of my boys was 8 months old and the other was over a year old when they were neutered. The 8 month old had strong smelling urine, but neither were spraying. They were neutered "late" because that's when I got them. I've never had a problem with them spraying and they met each other after coming to their new home after being neutered.

catapault · Jun 30, 2013

A comment triggered by your second image - are those flowers lilies? If yes, lilies are very dangerous for cats if they nibble on them. Much safer to decorate with cat-safe plants and flowers.

He is a magnificent young cat, very handsome.

jcat · Jun 30, 2013

He's adorable! Neutering at 6 months seems to be about average in Europe, where "pediatric neutering" hasn't become widespread. Perhaps you can talk your vet into doing it at that age by telling him you're concerned about the possibility of spraying.

Lilies are extremely dangerous for cats. Here's a warning from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration about them: Lovely Lilies and Curious Cats: A Dangerous Combination

It’s also important to remember that while lilies, a common household plant, are lovely to see and smell, they are still a safety threat for our cats. The entire lily plant (leaf, pollen, and flower) is considered to be toxic for cats. If you have lilies in your home this Easter, make sure that your cat doesn’t eat any part of the plants.

Symptoms of lily toxicity in cats include lethargy (decreased activity), vomiting, and loss of appetite. These symptoms worsen as the kidney damage progresses, leading to death. Early veterinary treatment is critical.

chiarabab · Jun 30, 2013

Thank you all! I am much relieved, and you've been wonderful and informative as you always are.

Catapault said:
A comment triggered by your second image - are those flowers lilies? If yes, lilies are very dangerous for cats if they nibble on them. Much safer to decorate with cat-safe plants and flowers.

He is a magnificent young cat, very handsome.

ahah, I have no idea what kind of flower those were, they were put on the fridge for the specific purpose of preventing him from nibbling on them. well, guess who learned to jump on the fridge in that exact moment! The flowers were sadly thrown away a few seconds after taking the picture (you know how the old saying goes: first you take the picture, then take out the danger!), despite being perfectly ok, because we don't have safe spots anymore and we don't want him eating them!

btw, are tulips ok? I adore tulips! But other than some bunch of flowers I sometimes pick up at the supermarket this is a plant-free house: I couldn't keep one of those green thing alive to save my life! (I am a bit better with cats, I swear)

edit: I just read that tulips are dangerous as well. No more tulips in this house, then! Lucky for us, we have a very decorative kitten. If I could just convince him to stay still into the vase, now...

stealthkitty · Jun 30, 2013

Ciao Chiarabab! My husband is from northern Italy and we went for a visit last year. It's such a beautiful part of the world!

About neutering at 8 or 9 months, the vets in my area all told me the same thing. Their reason was that they wanted to wait until the testicles descended; I suppose that is because they aren't prepared to do a pediatric neuter, which requires a slightly different technique and/or equipment. However, I was able to find one who was willing to neuter them at about 6 months as long as the testicles were at least showing.

I would advise you to talk to your vet and ask politely if he would be willing to neuter your kitty earlier. He might be more flexible if he knows your reasons. If not, call some other vets and simply ask what is the earliest they are willing to neuter a cat. It can't hurt to ask, and if you find one who will help you, you can still keep your nearby vet as your regular vet.

Se vuoi, puoi scrivermi in italiano.

catsallaround · Jun 30, 2013

I had a vet insist on 6 months. At 5 I called up saying we must be wrong on age he is spraying EVERYWHERE as I was terrified of spraying. He took him in that week. Vet was very old and was told years ago he waited longer. He also holds off on puppies till nearly a year old.

I held out on a neuter due to a heart murmur. He started to spray around 8 months. I held out on 2 kittens due to serious lack of money(about 10 years ago was broke from the kitten milk as they were hand raised) and one sprayed at 6 months and the other one never picked it up. They were done at 8 1/2 months old.

I think they tend to spray faster if there is another unneutered male around. Only thing I found to get rid of smell was bleach water. That was for the hard surfaces/rugs(made it up very light to prevent staining) the wall was another matter. Even after scrubbing it I smelled if until I repainted that area.

The smell will be bad even if he is using the litter box if his urine changes over to that smell. You may need to dump the litter more often(even though you are using scoopable litter

chiarabab · Jun 30, 2013

StealthKitty said:
About neutering at 8 or 9 months, the vets in my area all told me the same thing. Their reason was that they wanted to wait until the testicles descended;

Yes, that's what he told me as well. Other than that he's a great guy, it would feel like a betrayal to go to another vet

but I will most definitely call around, thank you!

StealthKitty said:
Se vuoi, puoi scrivermi in italiano.

That is such a nice thing to offer, thank you

anyway I would feel bad towards other forum members that wouldn't understand us... Let's keep it in english, I feel confortable enough even if it's clearly not my first language

StefanZ · Jun 30, 2013

chiarabab said:
Hi guys

First off: I do not live in North America, but in Europe, more specifically in northern Italy. Also, I'm a new cat owner, and I'm informing myself mostly on english websites. That is starting to be a problem, since I often cannot compare foods and habits and I get confused over simple stuff as the difference between combing and brushing

Two days ago I brought Fletcher to the vet for his second shot and a visit. He is a very healthy, big guy, just turned 3 months old and is an indoor only cat. While there, I asked the vet when we would start talking about neutering him, and I was taken aback a little by his response, having read your advices over and over: he said that the clinic would neuter him at about 8 months old. After I expressed my perplexity, he said we could start talking about it at around 5 or 6 months old. Now, isn't it a little late anyway? I'd rather not go to another clinic for the following (non financial, really) reasons:

this clinic is literally behind our condo, and we don't have a car. taking him to another vet, possibly recommended by friends, would mean a trip through several public transportation vehicles, and the weather is HOT here.

I love the vets there. they are wonderful people, work long hours and they have the best attitude towards animals. They love Fletcher and Fletcher loves them, which is weird because he's not really that confortable around strangers. And most of all...

... It is the clinic of a voluntary animalistic association: they save stray animals, both domestic and wild, they provide for them and cure them (even those severely hurt: here in Italy there is no such thing as a "kill" shelter) and find them home (if they are domestic animals) or release back into the wild in a properly selected environment. The clinic is not cheaper than the average vet clinic, but I feel like I'm giving my money not only to good people who take good care of my pet but to a good cause as well.

finally, everyone of my cat-owning friends spayed or neutered their pets around that age, between 6 and 8 months. So I'm afraid that taking Fletcher to another clinic would be useless since this could just be how they do things around here

However, living in a small flat I'm really scared of the consequences of the kitten starting to spray around.

So, my questions are:

when does a kitten start spraying? is there a way to delay that moment or to see it coming?

if a kitten sprays in the house, is there a method to conceal or get rid of the smell? I'm very clean regarding him, I scoop the litter several times a day, check his bottom after he goes an whip it with a wet towell if it's not perfect, clean his ears etc. I really don't want the house to smell bad but mostly...

... I want him to be healthy and happy. The vet says that the delayed neutering will help him develop better, but I read around that a sexually mature not neutered kitten can be a very stressed house pet.

would you call another clinic just to check, or given the informations above you would stay with the current clinic?

should I push the vet to perform the surgery before 6 months of age or that would offend him?

Them doing lotsa of free advanced treatments on homeless makes them also better surgeons and generally more skilled. They are thus more experienced and better surgeons than an average vet clinic.

I think also it is nice of him to admit he han discuss a somewhat earlier neutering, than his normal 8-9 months... So he has his old rules, but he is not rigid with them at least.

I say, keep to him for dear life!

To your questions: You can have maximal unluck, but quite few sprays immediately they become fertile. Many arent spraying the first youngling time, well behaving, and began to spray more seriously first when they are fully adult, at 14 months+.

Like someone mentioned, they spray more if there are other fertile toms or females in heat.

If there are none nearby, chances are good he will not spray till he is at least 10 months, with any luck - even more.

cleaning sprays with biological enzymes as cleaners are effective here.

Wash off the worst with 1. "acid" water (forget for the moment what the acid is named, you can use it in food), this neuters the urine. 2. Soap water. 3. Spray on. Done.

In Sweden we had long a standard of spaying at 12 months. While it was OK for inside only cats, it was of course devastating for cats allowed to go out. Making surely a lot of homeless...

Nowadays the standard is 6 months.

I hope they will accept the modern standard of 10v or 1+ kg.

Good luck!

franksmom · Jun 30, 2013

I agree with many others that later fixing is not terrible if the cat never goes outside. I myself have decided to wait until my kitten is 6-7 months to get her spayed because her breed is known to have issues with being put under at a young age and I have talked to both vets and breeders to come to my decision. Paediatric fixing is wonderful for feral cats or cats that can get outside, but like any surgery there are risks. My other cat Frank actually had some issues with an early neuter at 12 weeks and both the breeder and the vet who did it told me they were not going to do it again on a kitten that age (though I know the vast majority of people on here have had good experiences with early neutering).

I am sure if your cat starts spraying before 8 months the vet will perform the surgery because he would have hit sexual maturity. As someone else mentioned the vet wants to wait until the testicles drop because it is a simpler surgery to preform- if the kitten starts spraying they will for sure just do the surgery right away.

chiarabab · Jun 30, 2013

StefanZ said:
Them doing lotsa of free advanced treatments on homeless makes them also better surgeons and generally more skilled. They are thus more experienced and better surgeons than an average vet clinic.

I think also it is nice of him to admit he han discuss a somewhat earlier neutering, than his normal 8-9 months... So he has his old rules, but he is not rigid with them at least.

I say, keep to him for dear life!

To your questions: You can have maximal unluck, but quite few sprays immediately they become fertile. Many arent spraying the first youngling time, well behaving, and began to spray more seriously first when they are fully adult, at 14 months+.

Like someone mentioned, they spray more if there are other fertile toms or females in heat.

If there are none nearby, chances are good he will not spray till he is at least 10 months, with any luck - even more.

cleaning sprays with biological enzymes as cleaners are effective here.

Wash off the worst with 1. "acid" water (forget for the moment what the acid is named, you can use it in food), this neuters the urine. 2. Soap water. 3. Spray on. Done.

In Sweden we had long a standard of spaying at 12 months. While it was OK for inside only cats, it was of course devastating for cats allowed to go out. Making surely a lot of homeless...

Nowadays the standard is 6 months.

I hope they will accept the modern standard of 10v or 1+ kg.

Good luck!

Oh my, thank you! Your post was really great to read, I'm so happy I posted here!

I live in a big condo but my immediate neighbours aren't cat owners. I'm on the 4th floor and I know that two neutered male cats live on the 1st floor, and I think there might be a cat that lives in the courtyard but I'm not sure about that. So I guess my question is: how near should the other cat be to "trigger" him?

I, too, think that our vet is great! We are very lucky because it's a whole clinic of 20+ vets working around the clock: it's open 24/7 and they treat mostly cat, but all kinds of animals come in! And even with that, they give you proper visits with a lot of time to answer every little question, you have you "assigned" vet but at the same time you know there are a lot more specialized in any particular field your cat might have need of... so, I'll take the 6 months deal and I'll try not to worry!

I loved Stockholm when I visited

very nice place and very nice people! Your kindness just confirms it

(by acid water you mean vinegar?)

StefanZ · Jun 30, 2013

chiarabab said:
I live in a big condo but my immediate neighbours aren't cat owners. I'm on the 4th floor and I know that two neutered male cats live on the 1st floor, and I think there might be a cat that lives in the courtyard but I'm not sure about that. So I guess my question is: how near should the other cat be to "trigger" him?

(by acid water you mean vinegar?)

Ah, no fertile cats nearby! You should do just fine! If you want to be sure, you can change your shoes before you go into the flat. So you dont carry any smells on them, if you happened to step on some urine of a fertile cat.

Yes, I mean vinegar diluted with water, tx!

Tx for your kind words!

Good luck!

countlesscats · Jul 1, 2013

Great kitty! In regards to neutering at 8-9 months. The Vets at the Humane Society in Tucson, AZ will spay/neuter as young as 2 months, my Vet at 4 months. As my screen name implies, I've had many, many cats, all indoor-only. They've all been strays or rescues so I am unfamiliar with any issues specific breeds may have with anesthesia. I always have them spayed/neutered no older than 5 months, with one exception that I regret to this day. I took three 3 month old strays (2 girls, 1 boy) to a volunteer Vet for surgery. The Vet said the boy had an undescended testicle and that I needed to take him to my personal Vet. He confirmed the volunteer Vet's evaluation and said we should wait to the testicle to descend. In the meantime, I had adopted all 3 kitties. I took the boy to my Vet every monthly for 4 months. Finally, the Vet said it appeared the testicle was not going to drop so we scheduled the surgery. But he had already started spraying and he never stopped! He never stepped one foot outside. He would use the litter box and then go spray. The smell was overwhelming! He sprayed on the furniture, walls, stove, the top of the refrigerator, against the TV, the stereo speakers. He would jump up onto the furniture and spray on artwork hanging on the wall. He sprayed everywhere! We both were miserable.

Once a cat starts spraying, it will not stop. Males are more commonly sprayers than females. Please, please explain your concern to the Vet and ask if he will consider neutering Fletcher before he is 6 months old. If not, for your sake and Fletcher's, please ask a friend to take you to another Vet just for the surgery. Then continue Fletcher's care with the Vet you've been seeing. I love my Vet. I'm only sorry he doesn't treat people. : ))

All bulb plants are poisonous to cats. One of my cats plays with all flowers and knocks over the vases so much as I love plants and flowers, there are none in our house. Also, be cautious of rubber bands, ribbon, string, yarn, Christmas tinsel and dental floss. They can get tangled up in their intestines which can require surgery to resolve. One of my cats got his tooth stuck in a little round jingle bell (vs. a bell with a clapper) on his collar. Another was licking at his first time collar attempting to remove it and got his lower jaw stuck under the collar. Thankfully, both times I was home and was able to rescue them. No more collars in our house. One of my cats was an escape artist so I had him micro-chipped just in case he slips out unnoticed.

Massage Fletcher's gums with your finger, then transition to a baby or pet toothbrush. I don't recommend minty tasting pet toothpaste because cats' sense of smell is so much keener than humans and they don't like the strong scent. Likewise, cats generally don't like scented kitty litter for the same reason.

Best wishes and enjoy your new kitty.

franksmom · Jul 1, 2013

CountlessCats said:
Great kitty! In regards to neutering at 8-9 months. The Vets at the Humane Society in Tucson, AZ will spay/neuter as young as 2 months, my Vet at 4 months. As my screen name implies, I've had many, many cats, all indoor-only. They've all been strays or rescues so I am unfamiliar with any issues specific breeds may have with anesthesia. I always have them spayed/neutered no older than 5 months, with one exception that I regret to this day. I took three 3 month old strays (2 girls, 1 boy) to a volunteer Vet for surgery. The Vet said the boy had an undescended testicle and that I needed to take him to my personal Vet. He confirmed the volunteer Vet's evaluation and said we should wait to the testicle to descend. In the meantime, I had adopted all 3 kitties. I took the boy to my Vet every monthly for 4 months. Finally, the Vet said it appeared the testicle was not going to drop so we scheduled the surgery. But he had already started spraying and he never stopped! He never stepped one foot outside. He would use the litter box and then go spray. The smell was overwhelming! He sprayed on the furniture, walls, stove, the top of the refrigerator, against the TV, the stereo speakers. He would jump up onto the furniture and spray on artwork hanging on the wall. He sprayed everywhere! We both were miserable.

Once a cat starts spraying, it will not stop. Males are more commonly sprayers than females. Please, please explain your concern to the Vet and ask if he will consider neutering Fletcher before he is 6 months old. If not, for your sake and Fletcher's, please ask a friend to take you to another Vet just for the surgery. Then continue Fletcher's care with the Vet you've been seeing. I love my Vet. I'm only sorry he doesn't treat people. : ))

All bulb plants are poisonous to cats. One of my cats plays with all flowers and knocks over the vases so much as I love plants and flowers, there are none in our house. Also, be cautious of rubber bands, ribbon, string, yarn, Christmas tinsel and dental floss. They can get tangled up in their intestines which can require surgery to resolve. One of my cats got his tooth stuck in a little round jingle bell (vs. a bell with a clapper) on his collar. Another was licking at his first time collar attempting to remove it and got his lower jaw stuck under the collar. Thankfully, both times I was home and was able to rescue them. No more collars in our house. One of my cats was an escape artist so I had him micro-chipped just in case he slips out unnoticed.

Massage Fletcher's gums with your finger, then transition to a baby or pet toothbrush. I don't recommend minty tasting pet toothpaste because cats' sense of smell is so much keener than humans and they don't like the strong scent. Likewise, cats generally don't like scented kitty litter for the same reason.

Best wishes and enjoy your new kitty.

I am sorry your cat did not stop spraying after neutering but it is just not true that cats will never stop spraying once they start. The breeder I bought my kitten from does not want people fixing her cats until they are 7-8months and once or twice a cat did start spraying and none continued after the surgery. There are also behavioural issues connected to spraying and even some people with cats fixed at a young age claim their cats are spraying (but in fact it is a urination or territorial problem). I think it is great for the OP to discuss all this with the vet and it is good to know there can be issues waiting, but it does not happen with all cats. European vets rarely do paediatric spaying (I have spent a lot of time in Europe specifically Italy myself) and there would be risks having a vet perform a surgery they have never done before. 6 months is a fine age to have the surgery done if the OP is careful about keeping him in and he would be very unlikely to start spraying at this age.

Human toothpaste is actually poisonous to cats and you should only use one that is formulated for cats and even a flavourless human toothpaste would dangerous to use.

chiarabab · Jul 1, 2013

@CountlessCat: thank you! I have some concern about living an experience similar to yours, but as Franksmom points out here in Italy things are a little different. I am asking my friends when did they spay/neuter their cats and no one did it before the sixth month of the kitten's age. I could call around to see if there is a vet who does pediatric neutering, but after reading all of your answers I'm starting to wonder if it's worth the worry honestly. Fletcher is inside only, does not live with or see other cats, and our vet offered to neuter immediatly if he should start spraying. I hope not to live your same situation!

finger crossed.
As for your other advices: flowers were thrown away, never to return

strings and stuff like that is not reachable to him and he doesn't wear a collar since I hate those things on cats and he has no way to get out

oh and we wash his teeth every other day with a wet garze, as well as groom him. Both activities are not very enjoyed, despite lots of treats and kisses.
I guess the point of my whole post was something like "I want to trust my vet on this, am I a fool?" And most answers were a very reassuring "no!", so i'll follow my istinct

after all i'll trust my kitten life with him at some point, better to start now!

(Oh, fletch is of no particular breed, even if he's parents owners swear that daddy cat is a purebred persian... But I'm pretty sure that's not the case)

franksmom · Jul 2, 2013

chiarabab said:
@CountlessCat: thank you! I have some concern about living an experience similar to yours, but as Franksmom points out here in Italy things are a little different. I am asking my friends when did they spay/neuter their cats and no one did it before the sixth month of the kitten's age. I could call around to see if there is a vet who does pediatric neutering, but after reading all of your answers I'm starting to wonder if it's worth the worry honestly. Fletcher is inside only, does not live with or see other cats, and our vet offered to neuter immediatly if he should start spraying. I hope not to live your same situation! finger crossed.
As for your other advices: flowers were thrown away, never to return strings and stuff like that is not reachable to him and he doesn't wear a collar since I hate those things on cats and he has no way to get out oh and we wash his teeth every other day with a wet garze, as well as groom him. Both activities are not very enjoyed, despite lots of treats and kisses.
I guess the point of my whole post was something like "I want to trust my vet on this, am I a fool?" And most answers were a very reassuring "no!", so i'll follow my istinct after all i'll trust my kitten life with him at some point, better to start now!

(Oh, fletch is of no particular breed, even if he's parents owners swear that daddy cat is a purebred persian... But I'm pretty sure that's not the case)

Actually it wouldn't surprise me if he is part Persian. His eyes and head shape give him a Persian look. The father may not have been a pure bred but he may have some Persian ancestry.

I agree you should follow your instinct. It is so hard to find a vet who cares about animals and not just money and it sounds like you found a great one.

countlesscats · Jul 2, 2013

Thanks for the feedback. I apologize for the confusion regarding toothpaste. The toothpaste to which I refer is minty pet toothpaste. The flavor is unpleasant to many, not all, cats. It seems many pet products are formulated to human preferences. I have yet to find a pet toothpaste flavored to a cat's taste. Any suggestions are most welcome. The fragrance free variety of the kitty litter my cats prefer is often sold out while the shelves are full of the Lavender, Fresh Scent and other scented varieties.

chiarabab · Jul 2, 2013

Franksmom said:
Actually it wouldn't surprise me if he is part Persian. His eyes and head shape give him a Persian look. The father may not have been a pure bred but he may have some Persian ancestry.

Really? I posted some of his pictures here but feedbacks were mostly on the "no persian" side. I could send you privately the two pictures I have of papa cat, since he's not my cat and I did not take the picture myself I didn't feel confortable putting them publicly online. I couldn't care one bit if he is of persian ancestry, I'm just extremely curious of how will he look like when grows up! Also, on the specific matter of neutering, I read that persians are late bloomers so that could be good news!

Vet will neuter our cat at 8-9 months old... Isn't that too late?

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