Our kittens had kittens!

Hello all, hope you can help us out. Bit of a long story so I'll try not to ramble.

Our neighbour's flat was broken into and ransacked hours after he was taken to hospital and his 3 month old kitten, Molly, escaped. Sadly so much bad news all at once had a devastating effect as he was already showing signs of dementia and he was sectioned (we only found that out last week). A week later my partner (another neighbour) saw a sign saying that a black kitten had been found and the story matched up so he took her to my house, my cat (pictured in my icon) had just died (at age 20!) so I still had all the gear.

She settled in nicely, is extremely affectionate and follows me absolutely everywhere. However, a few days later we found Molly. Which left us quite confused. The girl who found the other one was in the process of moving when she found her so we couldn't get in touch. My partner took Molly back to his flat and his other cat does not like her one bit. She was timid after her two weeks outdoors and still shaken after the burglary.

We were planning on getting them both spayed, both were four months old when we found them and hadn't been let out since, the nearest PDSA is on the other side of town and the car is off the road so we kept them indoors to be safe while we got to booking and arranged suitable times and transport.

We'd had them indoors for a few weeks when Molly, still tiny everywhere else, was suddenly huge in the belly. She was already pregnant when we found her!

A few days ago Snowy decided to bury herself amidst a pile of storage boxes, we tried to call her out but she only purred loudly in response. We moved stuff out of the way only to find her nursing a newborn kitten! So she was already pregnant too! All that arranging and trying to keep them indoors and it was already too late for both of them. They both got pregnant at only 4 months, surely that's too young, are there any potential complications we should keep an eye out for?


Snowy's was a single kitten litter, normal for young ones, and the babby is gaining and doing great. Snowy keeps carrying him to wherever I am and making me sit with them which is a bit strange but rather flattering.

Molly's belly is massive now. But she's only a tiny cat and then there's the other cat, a spayed female, who keeps picking fights when she's trying to rest.

We've been gently stroking her and feeling the lumps, they were squirming around a few days ago, it feels like there are quite a few. We're worried that she won't be able to support so many kittens by herself, being so small.

I was wondering, would it be a good idea to get Snowy to foster any kittens to make it easier on Molly? If so, how would I go about doing this? How soon can we get them spayed?

Any other advice would be greatly appreciated.

First things first.  Molly must have peace. So separate her from the other unfriendly one.

If you cant separate them at theirs place, is it perhaps possible to move Molly to your place?

Hoping of course, Snowy and Molly will be friendly to each other.  And possibly helping each other with the practical tasks of motherhood.  This is prob the optimal solution here.

I mean, Molly is already stressed by this unfriendly one.  The stress of move will not be worse.

- I hope I understood the situation right.

Risk of complications?  Yes. So have the telephone to your vet handy, know where the out of hours too...  Have everything prepared to rush her in.

And read on!  You must perhaps be prepared to assist, both at birthing, and afterwards. Many young moms dont understand what to do. Snowy seems to do it excellently, but not all do it.

Hope my answer was reasonable...

Continue with reports and questions!

Good luck!

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I suggested that we move Molly but my partner doesn't want to until the kittens are born in case Snowy feels threatened by her. I can't seem to change his mind. He only has a flat so it's difficult to keep them separated.

I'll keep trying.

One other problem now though, Snowy keeps scratching and licking her lips, now the philtrum and chin are red and bald. I checked the kitten and sure enough, he has it too. Is there anything I can do for them?

Just used my blacklight, pictured with Snowy, no flourescing but could it still be ringworm?

Beelzibubbles said:

One other problem now though, Snowy keeps scratching and licking her lips, now the philtrum and chin are red and bald. I checked the kitten and sure enough, he has it too. Is there anything I can do for them?
Just used my blacklight, pictured with Snowy, no flourescing but could it still be ringworm?

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I myself dont know much about ringworm. My suggestion is you contact your vet.

If she wants you to visit personally, it is prob enough you just take in the mom, as they have apparently the same problem.

This also changes the planes.  If Snow and kitten has something which may infect others, you dont want Molly together with them.

So first you must find out what it is, and have suitable cure, before you let them meet.

Good luck!

ps.  So Molly IS stuck there, together with the resident who is unfriendly to her?

and there is no place to separate them?

OK, lets analyse.

You dont need any fancy  extra rooms.  You can use the bathroom for this, Molly in the bathroom.  Or you can use a big dog cage, Molly in there - even this will give Molly some measure of feeling safety...

You can try with a Feliway diffuser, both "adult" cats benefiting from it.

It may be so the unfiendliness is because the resident feels unsure by the intrusion of a new one... So Feliway could help yes. 

Btw, is the resident spayed?  If not, high time for it.  

Also, the classical, resident being jelaous for the newcomer.  It is important to support the resident so she is assured she is still number one.

Give protection, support and love to newcomer, but see the resident gets most love. At least, so the resident thinks she gets most.   

Work with the introduction, like scent swapping.  Say, you brush them both with the same brush, one after another. Enough with 4-6 strokes on one, and change cat.