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I'm your typical, excessively worried cat mom. Jasmine is 2 and a half. She was born December 11, 2010. I brought her home February 5th, 2011, at 8 weeks old. She is a Siamese Manx cross. She's been through a lot with me.

She is harness trained and only goes outside on a leash or tether under my direct supervision. She has had no contact with other cats since I put Misha to sleep April 11, 2011. Jasmine was a Christmas present to make that loss easier, and I am adamant that she saved my life. Misha was the first cat I ever lost to death. I'd had to leave a couple behind, but that's a long story.

Either way, Jasmine has been acting a bit strangely lately. She's walking a bit slowly, and seems a little uncoordinated when she's playing. She doesn't want to be touched much, and since we moved from her first home in November of last year, she's been over grooming and sometimes even biting at her flank. Though she has yet to create bald patches, she has thinned the fur a bit in places. Since she was a kitten she has randomly had coughing fits that, when mentioned to the vet, were passed off as inconsequential. Now she's hiding some of the time, and seems to have some sensitivity to touch/weakness in her back right leg. Her breathing is clearly visible, and sometimes she is really warm on her ears, under her chin, and on the pads of her feet.

Oh yeah, she's also coughing up hairballs and yellow liquid pretty frequently as a result of the over grooming. Three times this week with two hairballs in each session. The first ones were big, but they've been smaller since.

She cost me 200$ in vet fees just recently, which cleaned out my savings for her emergency funds, when she got constipated. Now I feed her pumpkin every day, about a tablespoon, and give a few drops of fish oil if she is really bad, both things the vet praised. Her constipation is in check, and she's peeing fine.

She's almost always had a bald-ish spot above each of her eyes, that I was told is common is Siamese cats. She has the coloring (point) of the Siamese, the blue eyes, and the generally obnoxious, demanding, too-intelligent nature. She knows how to open nearly every door drawer and cupboard in the house, and has a tendency to do so whenever she likes. She also has the higher more powerful back legs of the Manx, and softer facial features than the Siamese as well.

I don't use any harsh chemicals around the house, and will soon be swapping my detergent and dryer sheets for a natural mineral ball, that can stay in the machine so she can't get at it. I clean everything in my house with lemons, white vinegar, baking soda, and salt, with the exception of laundry or dishes. Lemons get cut in half and used directly if the mess is greasy or sticky enough, but all surfaces get wiped down with a vinegar solution afterwards to eliminate the sticky mess, and the minor risk of toxicity to my cat. They are rarely used in that manner on anything she would come in contact with.
Salt is used as an abrasive, and she is locked out of the room until it has been rinsed thoroughly off any surface it was used on and disposed of properly.

She has also recently developed this habit of licking her nose a lot. And sometimes she breathes with her mouth open a little. I can't hear her breathe unless she mostly blocks her nose in my blanket, and then it sounds like a whistle, but so does mine when I do that...

She's sleeping a lot, but seems to be drinking OK. She's eating her dry food, but totally ignored the wet food I put down today, even though she loves that stuff more than anything.

I'm going to end up taking her to the vet, but I want to try to have some ideas by then... I've got to sell or pawn whatever I can to get the money to take her in. I'm also going to talk to a few different vets about payment options, including the bone my mother took her pom to one city over, and the vet that originally took care of her in yet another city, as well as trying to borrow money from friends. Have no doubts, I'll sacrifice anything to make her well again, if doing so is an option. I'm going to have to get her dewormed and treated for fleas and ticks, since they refused to do so when we went in for the constipation as they didn't want to over stress her, which was fine, of course, but they didn't send me home with any either, or do her regular yearly. The vet said she looked amazing then, and her weight was spot on. 11 pounds 5 ounces. She has a definite waist, and I'm pleased to say she determines how much she wants to eat herself. Within the guidelines of her food, of course.

Anyway, any insight anyone has would be greatly appreciated. If it is necessary to take her in immediately, i will just have to start calling and seeing if anyone will take us before i can come up with the cash.

I expect to be looking at at least $500 in vet bills, if they want to do bloodwork, and just two xrays.... Having some kind of idea where to start would help a lot.

Thanks >_
 
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Oh yeah. She's usually excessively friendly, and very doglike, as Manx cats tend to be. She's very loyal, and follows me from room to room on a regular basis.

And my mother did not take her pom to a bone. That was supposed to be one, but I'm on my phone.
 

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Being a worrier myself, I can relate. I do think something is wrong. There are too many little things that are off. You do know your kitty best which is why I hate to hear vets dismiss something as inconsequential. A long-lasting, intermittent cough is worrisome. It could be indicative of a heart problem. I'm not sure that I would call this an emergency, but I would schedule an appointment with a feline specialist if possible as soon as you can.

I would look into Care Credit. That may help you with vet bills now. Good luck and many vibes that it's not serious.
 
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Unfortunately, I don't live in the USA. Canada isn't in care credit's coverage range, apparently. But yes, with the Siamese in her, I worry about heart problems. Also considered asthma.

But I think it's more serious than asthma, and I want to get her in in the next couple days. There's just something Not quite right with her. Part of me wonders if her fur is changing color. And by that I mean getting drastically lighter in places. But I could be crazy. LOL.
 

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I wouldn't call yourself overly worried, I think that something is going on.

Her changes are so different, it's sort of hard to pinpoint what's wrong.

Looking at one thing at a time, seeing her breathe, open mouth breathing, and not eating her wet food can be and probably are all related, it sounds like she can't breathe clearly through her nose, which will also mean her smelling is off so be the lack of interest in wet food.

Her excessive grooming, that is either due to stress, allergies to food, or fleas. I tend to think it's fleas. Regardless if you can see any, if she goes for walks, or outdoors at all, she has fleas, guaranteed.

They can be very irritating for a cat, and make them constantly groom, which will cause frequent hairballs, thinning fur, etc.

The main symptoms that is concerning is her walking slower, uncoordination (as we all know cats are def NOT uncoordinated)

Her hiding is a sign that something is wrong. Possible pain/discomfort.

Without seeing her, my suggestions would be definitely flea treat, biting and licking is fleas. Once they are under control she needs deworming with drontal, a dewormer that also gets rid of tapeworms, since by now she has surely ingested a flea or 2 which causes a tapeworm.

I would get her on clavamox antibiotics. Give her liquid clavamox, for the full 10 days or until it's gone.

Once these are done, evaluate her changes or progress.

If she shows any more or continues to have symptoms and hiding, see the vet and have a blood panel/screening done.
 
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Took her in to the vet this morning and while her heart sounded fine, they think she has asthma. Which is a better prognosis than any other possibilities right now. They gave me prednisolone, told me if it doesn't make her breathing rate improve then we may do a chest x-ray later. They're not sure about the weakness/uncoordination, but they pointed out that Manx cats sometimes have weaker nerves in their hind legs. However, with her having one or two vertebrae for a tail, they say that's usually not an issue. So they have no idea on that, and she was behaving fine in terms of that at the office, though upon arrival at home, she exhibited some signs again, but I chalk that one up to stress, and whatnot. They want to maybe put her on a stool softener/hairball control medication, but I was unable to afford it this time around and maybe next time she wont need it. Which would be excellent. As I'd like her on as few meds as possible, simply because meds are pretty powerful things and I strongly believe they should be used only when there are no alternatives.

Now that we are home, of course, she has been giving herself a rigorous bathing so as to rid herself of all traces of the vet's place. I'll be happy when she calms down enough to eat and use the litter box. And then I will give her her first dose of prednisolone tonight before bed. Once every 12 hours for a week, then once a day for a week, then three doses spaced every other day. And then if she needs it, they said they might have to prescribe it continually or an inhaler, depending on the situation.

I'm just glad it's not her heart. Apparently asthma is another thing quite common in Siamese cats, and cats in general also.

Now that we have one avenue of attack, I can at least see if it works, and if not, I will have ruled out another suspect.

I'm exhausted! And ofc, on the way home she was crying, since she was stressed, and some drunk guy who got on the bus kept harassing me about her, and saying he was going to bring his pitbull on the bus to sort her out. The bus driver made him move to the back of the bus, but I was pretty ticked off. Threatening my cat doesn't go over well with me. I don't care who you are.

Edit: every vet I've taken her to in her lifetime has told me that despite all the flea products on store shelves, we don't really have fleas around here. Even the pet store told me that fleas are not common in our area. Had to laugh at that one. Really makes you think lol.
 
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Sorry to hear about the drunk guy. What a jerk.

I'm glad to hear that it's more likely to be asthma than a heart problem although the weakness/uncoordination is still a little worrying.

I think it's fine that you turned down the stool softener/hairball meds right now. It sounds like you have her constipation under control with pumpkin/fish oil. I would try to get more water into her though. As for hairballs, a lot of on here really don't like the vast majority of hairball remedies available which are petroleum jelly based. We use egg yolk lecithin or raw egg yolks for hairball control. Lecithin breaks up the fat that binds hairballs together. I also add slippery elm bark. Just some things to consider.
 
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Thank you for the suggestions on hairball control. If Jasmine starts relishing her food again, I will be certain to try them out.

As it is, it's not asthma. We've already weaned her off the prednisolone because she got worse, and I am once again scrambling for funds to take her in for more tests. With any luck, one of the people I know with credit cards will let me borrow some credit and pay them back.

Jasmine's going to need xrays of chest and possibly abdomen, and blood work. I myself have surgery coming up in a couple months, so I want to get her better as soon as possible. Or at least to know there's nothing I can do except make her comfortable. Knowing is important.

She was around my previous cat, Misha, for two months before I took him to the vet for the very last time. If whatever killed him is what's killing her, I need to know. I kinda doubt it, because the vet found lumps in his abdomen that should not have been there, and said at his age, most likely cancer. But being as I had never raised a kitten before, I was unaware of a lot of things. If I can't help her, I still want to know what it is and if it is contagious, so I do not bring another innocent little guy or girl into the home before everything has been rid entirely of any trace of infection.

I would prefer to be able to make her better. But with her taking a turn for the worse and me not sure where I'll find the money this time, I have had to also steel myself for the possibility that I might end up losing her.
 

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Redrover.org is in the U.S. as well as Canada, it might be well worht checking them out.

Just a comment, you said you really don't have fleas around there?! Wow, lucky you! I mean that, it's a constant battle here, and in California where I am, it doesn't get cold enough in the winter to kill them off either, so it's nearly impossible to deal with, I'm envious!!

The 2nd most common reason for excessive grooming and chewing, scratching, etc is food allergies.

There are several formulas to try, beginning with maybe the green pea/duck limited ingredients from Natural Balance.

It takes 2-3 weeks for the old to get out of her system to see changes, but well worth a try. What can be more irritating then all that itchy skin non-stop.

Did you mention if she was ever tested for felv/fiv? Curious only.
 
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She was never tested as a kitten, because I could not afford it then. I have no idea how much the various tests cost to run, but I get then idea the vet wants to run them all. LOL
 
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