stomatitis syrup from dallas texas

What is this syrup? Does anyone know what exactly its made of?

I have a cat that was just diagnosed with stomatitis and I'm looking for anything that might help her. She's on predisolone right now but I know that steriods can have terrible side effects and I don't want to keep giving it to her. 

It sounds like this syrup is a good idea to try 

I did try this syrup from the Dallas vet dental clinic and it did NOT work at all for my cat. I was told it can take 45 days. On the 40th day I told the receptionist, Kelly, that there's been no improvement and she told me to increase the dosage by 20%. I did that for 5 days and had to stop because my cat started to lick her lips a lot, her tongue started to stick out a bit, and there was thick saliva around her lips. That receptionist has no business telling clients what to do with medications!!!! I'm so upset that it messed up my cat even more!!!!!!!!!!!!

Im am new to this forum ,so I hope this post will be on the Stomatitis forum. I am in the process of getting the Dallas Syrup.I have a rescue cat from under a trailer. I have had Ziggy now 2 months and have the diagnosis of stomatitis. I have tried the antibiotic way and it still comes back. He is barely eating. He did well on the antibiotics and gained weight and his fur has grown in fully. I was wondering if anyone has tried the Dallas Syrup and how there kittys have done on it? Im desperate for help. I tried to get him to a vet dental specialist as I was going to get his teeth pulled, but seeing he is semi feral he just would not get into the carrier. I have had luck getting his teeth cleaned and a biopsy done, hut I think he is scared to go in again.

Any more info on the Dallas Syrup?? I am going to try it on Ziggy next week.

Hi, I am going to try this on Ziggy next week and hope it works.

My 8 year old tabby cat Kimmie just started on the syrup day before yesterday.

The first dose, she threw up within 5 minutes.

I called the clinic the next day and Jim talked to me about splitting the dose out to two or three times a day and mixing it with canned food. Did that last night and today, and she is tolerating it well.

In just two days, her mouth doesn't smell as bad, and she has quit hiding under the bed. So I don't know if her mouth is better, or if one of the ingredients in the syrup is making her feel better systemically.

I'm hoping this will get us off the $116/bottle Atopica because it wasn't helping her mouth as much as the laser treatments were. We had gotten to the point where full mouth extraction had been discussed, and since she's only 8, I didn't want to go there just yet.

Will keep eye on this thread, and keep y'all posted.

I live in Frisco, TX not too far from where this clinic may be--I think. My almost 9 year old cat, Zander,  has been diagnosed with Feline Stomatitis and the group dedicated to this disease recommends looking into the syrup.
I'd like to learn more about this clinic since he's been seen by two vets for his dental issues. The first vet did some extractions but if they didn't address the problem suggested he see a specialist who turned out to have left his practice. The first vet did not have a dental x-ray machine, so I took Zander to another vet who does have a dental x-ray machine. He got a good look in his mouth and suggested that his gums and teeth and extra tissue would best be taken care of by a full mouth extraction. Seems that the dental vet now goes practice to practice, but I also found out that he charged a friend $4000+ to treat her cat and I know that this is not a guaranteed cure either.

Any feedback would really be appreciated.

Robin and Zander in Frisco, TX

I had to discontinue for now using the Dallas syrup, because you can't give it on an empty stomach, and so many days Kimmie was unable to eat. I've got her on a combination of meds i put together from drugs that have kinda worked on their own but work well together, and we're going on six weeks with no flare up.

I would definitely get as many opinions as possible before doing the extraction at that price. It may be reasonable in your geographic area, but it would be outrageous here.

The Dallas Clinic folks were really nice, and I'd don't think you'd go wrong by at least getting a consult with them.

Thanks so much for the info. I have read that it can make them sick to their stomach, so I have read that they recommend using something to make their stomach upset go away. They weren't specific, so perhaps if you contact the clinic they can recommend what you can give your special kitty. I can't believe how fortunate I am to have found this group and the first thing I'm told to do it look at the info on the Texas Syrup. I moved to Texas over 4 years ago.  Believe it or not that dental vet practice is less than an hour from my home! If the syrup doesn't work, well I somehow feel I'll be in good hands if they do recommend the extractions. AND thank you--I think the $4000 is way over the top. My friend who spent that type of money was desperate but didn't do the research I'm doing.

Well I'll keep everyone informed of what I find.

I'm so grateful to groups like this. I co-own Ragdoll Rescue USA and have had some suggestions from some of the members there, too, but no one knew of the Texas syrup. I truly believe there's a reason I've found out about the Feline Stomatitis group and the Dallas Syrup.

I hope your kitty continues to thrive on your regimen, too. Good job, MOM.

TigerGrrrl said:

I had to discontinue for now using the Dallas syrup, because you can't give it on an empty stomach, and so many days Kimmie was unable to eat. I've got her on a combination of meds i put together from drugs that have kinda worked on their own but work well together, and we're going on six weeks with no flare up.

I would definitely get as many opinions as possible before doing the extraction at that price. It may be reasonable in your geographic area, but it would be outrageous here.

The Dallas Clinic folks were really nice, and I'd don't think you'd go wrong by at least getting a consult with them.

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I think it varies from cat to cat.... Bugsy never had tummy issues with it..... and he is a heck of a sensitive cat with his IBD and all..... But..... :dk:
I had them make capsules for me as it was easier for me to pill Bugsy than to give the liquid. Anyways - just wanted to put that out there....

Yes, I understand that some cats get upset stomachs on it. The friend of mine whose cat did have FME and is now dealing with another cat that had some dental work and may now have an ulcer as a reaction to the anesthesia is giving that cat Pepcid. It's working to combat the cat's nausea.

As far as capsules over liquid, right now Zander cries if I touch his mouth, but he also is not a happy camper with the liquid. BUT he does eat the food I've put the antibiotic he's on right now I give him--he prefers being on my lap for meal times but that way I can monitor if the food "bites" him.

Thanks for sharing your experience with the capsules. It's good to know that there may be options of how to administer the "syrup" I never would have thought of. I already medicate my 2 year + stroke survivor kitty daily and pills work a lot better with her than liquids for sure!

It worked really well for Bugsy - I hope it does for your kitty too - good luck!!

Is the Dallas LPS Syrup by prescription or can it be purchased online?

Hi Cherryl and welcome to TCS!   It is by prescription only and can only be purchased from the Dallas Clinic. Obviously you have a stomatitis kitty?

What does "dental" mean ?  Are you saying your cat had dental cleaning? Or something else.   Thanks.

I worry about any medication that a cat has to be on for the rest of their lives.  Wonder what the potential side effects are.

Hi, where did or do you get this stomatitis medicine.  Do u have a vet's name.   I live in Ct. would appreciate any info you could provide.  Hope u and kitty are ok.

I know I'm late to the party and I do not ORDINARILY "necro-post"... but I had FORGOTTEN all about Dr. Wiggs' "Secret Sauce"! I came across this thread in a search on "Stomatitis Treatment"

I do remember a few clients in various hospitals that were doing the "sauce" and it did seem to help these cats tremendously. Those clients RAVED about the difference it made in their pets. I also remember applying for work at Dr. Wiggs' practice since I absolutely enjoy dental as my "special interest" as a vet tech. He just didn't have any openings at the time-- but then he passed away not too long after I had applied. His practice seemed so nice. I think I would have loved working with him and his crew, and I know I would have learned a whole lot.

I really need to talk to our new vet about this sauce. Schrodie was just diagnosed with stomatitis yesterday and we're in the "stabilizing" phase right now, trying to get him to eat enough. He's been off his feed and not eating as much, and he's a bit constipated as a result. So Doc wants to get that cleared out and finish 2 weeks of Clavamox and then recheck. She seemed very up on feline stomatitis so I think she'd be happy to discuss this.

I'm actually IN Dallas so it would be very easy to get onto the "Wiggs Protocol" and do the "sauce" if it's determined to be appropriate for him. Schrodie is very easy to medicate, so I think he would be cooperative, which is a good sign.

(Monday morning: Phone call! And sorry for the necro-post!)

~Mackie

Ask to speak with Jim Seehorn since he's the one that now makes the LPS Dallas Syrup. Also the receptionist who usually answers the phone can share with you a lot about how they now dispense the syrup. Your own vet can work with them or since you mentioned that you live in Dallas, you may choose at least at the beginning to see the vet in the practice there---that's what I do with Zander. Once the vets in Frisco (TX) felt Zander was battling stomatitis; I found out about the syrup through the Feline Stomatitis group, Zander has had his dental work and follow up appointments with them, but my Frisco vet keeps his records on file as well.

Hope you find some help for your kitty. The Dallas Syrup does not work for absolutely every cat, but it's worked for so many, I'm grateful that I found it for my Zander.

Robin T and Zander
Frisco, TX

Since this is a "secret" syrup, and our vet must sign the do not disclose, what are the legal ramifications for use of this "recipe" on a cat.

Say the cat has problems.  Who is considered liable?

I ask because my local vet refuses to use it due to the grey areas.

Thanks.