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post #1 of 10
9/27/03 at 7:20am
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I just saw a story, on my local news. It contends that the surfeit of beer ads on TV instills a craving to drink, in underage college students. Being a university town, Tucson does have a real problem with underage drinking. Every weekend, it seems, cops are raiding keggers and busting underage drinkers.

Personally, I don't believe that the TV ads are responsible. At 45, I've seen a lot more beer ads, than these kids and I don't drink beer. By the same token, cigarette ads were BANNED, in 1970 and I've been smoking, since then.

Why don't they just accept the fact that these are immature kids, away from home for the first time, experimenting with "forbidden fruit"? College kids were going on drinking binges, long before TV even existed.

How about educating these kids, rather than scapegoating TV?
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post #2 of 10
9/27/03 at 7:28am
people want a quick fix and easy answer...and it's a lot easier to blame it on the TV than to take personal responsibility for our children and our own actions.

my parents were perfectly up front with me about many topics including alcohol, and i'm proud to say, i'm 21 and NEVER had a problem with underage drinking and never had issues now. i think that a lot of it is REALLY up to the parents on this one. talk to your kids while they're young, people! and stop trying to blame it on being mindless zombies controlled by the TV.
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post #3 of 10
9/27/03 at 7:59am
I agree, its too easy to blame tv for everything, drinking, violence, whatever. Its silly - I think people have lost responsibility and want to blame someone else.
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post #4 of 10
9/27/03 at 11:22am
I agree - it's way too easy to blame television, pop music, the Internet, schools, fast food chains, etc., etc.. Whatever happened to personal responsibility?
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post #5 of 10
9/27/03 at 3:49pm
You're right, people blame things because its easy. A kid kills himself over a girl rejecting him in EQ. Blame the game...who cares if the kid had a mental disorder, its the games fault! Yeah. That's smart.

Same with kids and drinking and smoking. I'm 23. I don't drink. My Mom drinks too much and it scared the hell out of me. I may have 1 or 2 drinks now and again, but I take forever drinking them. I think its been 2 years since my last drink.

Talk to your kids. If anyone is to blame, its the parents fault.

Same with ADD and stuff. Before, when a kid got roudy and didn't do well in school, the parents sat down and taught them. Now, "lets pump drugs in their system, that'll help 'em". Bah.

Be there for your kids. That's what being a parent is.
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post #6 of 10
9/27/03 at 8:53pm
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Originally posted by katl8e
I just saw a story, on my local news. It contends that the surfeit of beer ads on TV instills a craving to drink, in underage college students.
You are I are close to the same age. Have you ever noticed how they just discover this fact every few years? I remember this argument when I was in my teens!

TV is a great scape goat for people that don't want to take responsibility for their own influence on their kids. People have a choice - if they don't like the programming, they can turn it off. We as a society spend far too much time watching TV anyway! Give me a good book or a great CD anyday!
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post #7 of 10
9/28/03 at 7:25pm
When I was in college (1970's) very few students owned a TV, the drinking age was 18, and most students drank far more than they should (including me.) Just being away from home in an atmosphere without parental oversight seemed to be enough.

George
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post #8 of 10
9/30/03 at 6:32pm
<<Same with ADD and stuff. Before, when a kid got roudy and didn't do well in school, the parents sat down and taught them. Now, "lets pump drugs in their system, that'll help 'em". Bah.>>

My nephew has ADD and if it wasn't for "drugs" he would never have made it through school. Don't be so quick to judge.


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post #9 of 10
9/30/03 at 7:29pm
BUT...in regards to ADD...my husband was one of those kids who was mis-diagnosed and doped up just because he was a rambunctious kid... he wasn't finally taken off of medication until he was 16, and man, did it make a world of difference in him. he feels so much better now that he hasn't had all that junk in his system for the last 4 years.

i wish i could remember where i saw it, but i read somewhere that about 60% of kids who are diagnosed with ADD never had it in the first place....meaning they were being drugged to stop them from being spirited.

i didn't interpret Sylent's comment as being quick to judge Ellie, i just think that she was pointing out that "the system" (teachers especially OY VAY!) is way too quick to diagnose a child and prefer that they be drugged than actually have to deal with them. there are children with the disorder out there, just not as many as are being treated for it. i just don't understand why kids aren't being allowed to be kids anymore...what would happen if we tried diagnosing our kittens with ADD?! EVERYONE'S kittens would be drugged because they are very energetic....it's part of being young. that's why they have recess

HOORAY for recess!!!
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post #10 of 10
10/1/03 at 5:09pm
<<i just think that she was pointing out that "the system" (teachers especially OY VAY!) is way too quick to diagnose a child and prefer that they be drugged than actually have to deal with them. there are children with the disorder out there, just not as many as are being treated for it.>>

I agree that a lot of kids are diagnosed with ADD that don't really have it and that makes it hard on the ones that do have it.
A lot of people think that it isn't a real disorder at all.
They think that the parents and teachers are too lazy to deal with troublesome kids.

<<what would happen if we tried diagnosing our kittens with ADD?! EVERYONE'S kittens would be drugged because they are very>>

Sorry I didn't copy your whole sentence. I sure wish my fat red boys had it. All they do is sleep and eat. I guess they take after me.
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