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post #1 of 20
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They only sentenced the woman, the man they had no issueswith him doing this. She has a reprieve. The story from

Saved From Death

A single mother who’d been sentence to death by stoning has another chance at life.

The woman, who’d been sentenced for adultery, was acquitted on Thursday by an Islamic appeals court in northern Nigeria.

Judges threw out the conviction and said she hadn’t had “ample opportunity to defend herself.â€

And the panel of five judges also said that 32-year-old Amina Lawall hadn’t been caught in the act of adultery, and didn’t have enough time to properly grasp the charges. Procedural mistakes were also cited by the panel.

The case had triggered a barrage of outcries from international rights groups. And if the stoning had happened, Lawall would have been the first woman to die in such a way since 12 northern states started upholding tough Islamic law, or Shariah, in 1999.

“We think the death penalty for adultery is contrary to the Nigerian constitution,†said Francois Cantier, a lawyer with French group Avocats Sans Frontieres, or Lawyers Without Borders.

The woman was first convicted in March 2002, after she gave birth to a daughter, two years after divorcing her husband.

Judges said she wouldn’t be killed until she was done breast-feeding her child in January 2004.

September 25, 2003
post #2 of 20
Stoned to death?? Now that's horrible!

So glad Amina isn't going to be stoned to death!
post #3 of 20
That is probably one of the worst ways to die

But I am glad she got a reprieve so that she may watch her child grow up.
post #4 of 20
Yes, stoning is way too harsh for adultery, and I am glad they are changing the law. This might sound mean, but if it a law, and they are aware of it, the person should be ready to accept the consequences.
post #5 of 20
OMG, that is so chilling.
post #6 of 20
Originally posted by krazy kat2
This might sound mean, but if it a law, and they are aware of it, the person should be ready to accept the consequences.
From what I heard yesterday on CNN Headline News, one of the reasons she was reprieved is that the Islamic Law didn't become law in Nigeria until she was already 3 months pregnant.
post #7 of 20
I thought that was a very old law. When that story first came to the news, that was the impression I got.
post #8 of 20
The man involved got off, because he claimed that he had had nothing to do with it. What a crock! It is impossible to commit adultery by oneself!
post #9 of 20
that's sad
post #10 of 20
From what i could gather from this story that ran here a few months ago - she was actually raped. I may be wrong!!!
anyway did i just read that she was divorced - how can you commit adultery if your divorced!
Sad cases all over the world against women, this was one that just made the news thats all.
How many have been stoned, decapitated or just plain abused for being women. What is it with men - are they scared of something. Go figure.
post #11 of 20
My understanding is that she was divorced, and began seeing a new man. He told her that he was going to marry her, but left her after she became pregnant. Islamic law went into effect well after she had become pregnant, which is why her sentence was overturned in the appeal.

The man was not convicted because 3 other men took the stand to testify that he had not had sexual relations with the woman, which is enough evidence to aquit a man of adultery. Amina was convicted, but the sentence was to be delayed for a while (I think 2 years) so that she could nurse her daughter.

I believe it was an Islamic law appeals court that overturned her conviction. From what I read, she still would have had a couple more appeals that would take place in a non-religious court, and the sentence would have certainly have been overturned there.
post #12 of 20
Huh. I personally don't believe in having that kind of intimacy with more than one person, ever. (I will be a virgin up until my wedding night.) However, I'm not one of those psycho people who think others are bad if they don't share my opinion on the topic. That's just how I feel about it, and the decision I made for myself. I think stoning someone for something like that is really extreme, not to mention a horrible way to die.
post #13 of 20
She was released on a mish-mash of technicalities, including that under some interpretations of the Koran, a woman could be inseminated up to 5 years before a child is born.That would make her ex-husband the father of the child..ahem..

I had read that the President of Nigeria had already said that the central government would not allow her to be executed, in the event that the religious Appeals Court upheld the verdict. The Sharia law is only in effect in certain Northern provinces. I bet a lot of pressure was put on the court to release her, for both international and local poltical reasons.

The same week that they released her, they convicted a man for "sodomy" and gave him the same stoning sentence.
post #14 of 20
Stoning sure is a terrible way to die but just the same as to do adultery - bad and immoral
post #15 of 20
I believe the definition of adultrey in Islamic law is the same as the biblical law. According to biblical law only women are stoned for committing adultrey. Men are not punished. That is because according to biblical laws, a man can marry more than one woman and thus if he has sexual relations with more than one woman, that's legitimate. A woman can only have one man - so if she's married to one man and has a child from another, the child is a :censor::censor::censor::censor::censor::censor::censor: and the woman should be stoned to death. If she was not married to another but had a child not within marriage, that is not adultrey and the child is not a :censor::censor::censor::censor::censor::censor::censor: (contrary to common belief).

I know that for a fact because the Israeli law in that matter is still rabbinate law (we skip the stoning part though ). That means that a woman can have sex and a legitimate child if she's not married to another man. That would be frowned upon but is "legal" and the child is not a :censor::censor::censor::censor::censor::censor::censor:. If the woman is married to one man and has sex with another then it's adultrey. Any child born from that relationship is declared a :censor::censor::censor::censor::censor::censor::censor: (which has horrible implications is Israel, the worst being that this child and his offspring cannot marry any Jewish person in Israel for 10 generations!). If the husband has proof that the wife committed adultrey, he can sue for a divorce and get everything - she loses all her rights. The same is not true the other way around. If the husband committs adultrey, the wife cannot apply for a divorce on that ground and he doesn't lose anything on account of that.

It's incredible, but while we live in the 21st century, some of our state laws still follow biblical laws.
post #16 of 20
It sounds like a bunch of strong women need to take over the government in Israel and change some of these outlandish and biased laws! It amazes me that women are viewed enough as equals to be required to serve in the Israeli military but are so looked down upon that they are subject to such biased rules!
post #17 of 20
It looks like Israel is following its own law...
To speak of any religion, only the expert can explain it clearly and correctly... however, sadly speaking people all over the world claimed they knew it and explain it in their own words and mind which in the end would lead to destruction.........
post #18 of 20
I don't understand either why the man wasn't charged for this 'act'. Very double standards. On top of that, the country tried to host a miss world contest there and got the biggest uproar and embarrassment, because the news of them trying to stone her got out, yet they wanted to have scantily clad women in a contest in their country. The contestants boycotted and it was moved to another country I believe LOL! Very hypocritical IMO.
post #19 of 20
Originally posted by lotsocats
It sounds like a bunch of strong women need to take over the government in Israel and change some of these outlandish and biased laws! It amazes me that women are viewed enough as equals to be required to serve in the Israeli military but are so looked down upon that they are subject to such biased rules!
If only you knew how complicated this matter is. This concerns many more other aspects of living in a Jewish state and touches down on the very core of the definition of the state of Israel. More and more people are stirring clear from the rabbinate laws, bypassing them by conducting civilian weddings. Of course, these aren't legal in Israel - so people have to travel abroad to get marry in some foreign city hall (Cyprus being so near is the most popular destination). Israel is signed on an international convention that says Israel has to give formal recognition to weddings carried out abroad - so those weddings are legal and the home office has to change your formal status to married.

Hubby and I wouldn't have a religious wedding for those reasons - we disapprove from the patronizing attitude towards women and from conducting marriage the biblical way. We did want to go to Cyprus and get married in a civilian wedding but couldn't because of health problems (I was carrying Ron at the time and had bleedings). So we ended up declaring ourselves married - the state still sees us as single parents but that's ok.
post #20 of 20
wow i diden't think stoning existed anymore
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