An colleague/friend refusing to write a letter of recommendation for me- interesting

pamela

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Interesting-  I have a job interview for a possible job tomorrow since I have not been happy working under my current boss so I asked one of my colleague/friends to write me a letter of recommendation last week.  I thought she'd be perfect since she is a director and we work together A LOT so she kows my work ethnics and performance. 

Initially, she said she'd be happy to then she asked me to wait while she checked with a friend who works in HR to make sure it's okay.  Today we met and she told me that frankly she doesn't want me to leave our company since I am a very valuable asset (these are her words) and that it'd be a big loss if I leave so it's a big conflict of interest for her to write me a letter of recommendation. She did say that if I get a job offer and I decide to accept it, she'd be happy to be a "reference" but she can't be a reference before then since she will tell the people calling her that she doesn't want to lose me and that's a conflict. I told her actually that was a good reference! LOL.

Honestly- I understood where she was coming from and I respect it but at the same time, I was really hoping to get a letter of recommendation from her.

It's flattering that she really wants me to stay. She's encouraging me to talk to my CMO (Chief Marketing Officer) next week and tell him where I stand with this. I told her frankly (we've discussed this several times in the past already) that I don't see how the CMO can improve this because the big issue is my boss's personality. He is very controlling, takes credit for my work, talks down to me, doesn't respect me, doesn't let me do my job and plays huge favoritism with another member of our team. The CMO can't tell an employee to change his personality, period. I have tried to talk to my boss several times about several issues in the past and he has always managed to turn it back on me so I've given up really trying to communicate with him about how I feel. However, I did promise her that I WILL talk to the CMO about this next week.

Who knows, this might give him more incentives to transfer me to a different position under a different boss so I can stay with this company. I know that he's talking about reorganizing some positions due to some people leaving and I had already asked another  boss about when the positions would be posted.  That boss has approached me the other day and asked me if I'd be interested in a position and if so, he'd talk to the CMO and see. But again, it all rides on the CMO and the decision he will make. I'm trying to be realistic and not have high hopes for this.

I just needed to say this- it's hard for me to think about leaving this company. I moved across the country for this job almost 5 years ago.  I LOVE this company, my job and the people I work with. It's my boss who I can't take working with any longer.

I am getting excited about a job interview tomorrow (this will be in a different field and would take me back to my "roots" since my job prior to the current job is a lot similiar to the job I'm applying for) and I am currently prepping for the interview so hopefully I'll do great.  However, I do feel guilty about this because I have been told repeatedly by others in my company (not my boss) that I am a huge asset and they really value me. If I do leave, they WON'T be happy about it.

As of now, my boss has NO CLUE that I have been looking for another job or a different position under a different boss.

What do you think? Do you think it's the right thing for me to talk to my CMO about my boss and the fact that I have been looking for another job??
 
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If they think you are a huge asset, why won't they intervene with your Bad Boss.   Go to your interview and let them make you an offer you can't refuse.  Then go back and politely and professionally tell the Bad Boss "Take this job and shove it"
 

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If they think you are a huge asset, why won't they intervene with your Bad Boss.   Go to your interview and let them make you an offer you can't refuse.  Then go back and politely and professionally tell the Bad Boss "Take this job and shove it"
:yeah:

How did the interview go?
 

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Your title is about a collegue refusing a rec letter. So I understand THIS is your main problem, right?

Now, such a letter is very awkward for her. Being a letter, it is an almost official document. It will surely come out.  YOU searching a new job is a little awkward.  Her, being there in this concern, de facto recommending you to seek to another employer, is even more awkward and touchy - to her.  But being one of your reference persons, is not the same touchy.

Besides.  Recommending a current employee is often a polite way to getting rid of said employee. 

So this recommendation letter wouldnt NOT be any help for you in the oncoming intervju!  But perhaps, when you did left the concern and got the new job, THEN you can ask her to write this letter. IF you will need help in the future.

So, recruiting someone, be very wary of someone whose current employer gives enthusiastical recommendations!  In such cases look always on the foregoing employments...

So I think your collegue did right.  If it is correct they do have a good opionion of you, you can and should try to get  move in the concern. Talk with other chefs in the concern. Hey, you can if necessary ask this collegue to approach a little discretly these other chefs. As you are leaving because you cant stand the current chef, otherwise you would be happy to stay.  THIS will be also a warning for the leadership there is a weak point in their structure. This your chef.

You can of course seek other jobs. If you get it, you can either change employment - OR use the new job as a argument to get another position in your mother-concern, preferably a half step higher up.

Good luck!
 
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I hope your interview went well Pamela! It's such a shame that one crappy man is driving away a highly valued employee, but isn't that just so typical? And they never do anything about the bad boss. :rolleyes:
 
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The interview went very well and I have gotten clear indications that they are planning on making an offer. I do have a new dilemma related to work which I will post soon.
 
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