Would a cat that has never peed on a bed just do it randomly?

terestrife · Mar 17, 2013

today my cat was sleeping on my moms bed, my mom shares her bed with her dad. he is not neutered and is known for peeing everywhere outside. he has even peed inside.

my cat peed/pooped in a bathtub 1 year ago, in the first few days that i adopted her. im the main one taking care of her, and doing things for her, so if anything she should have peed in MY bed. lol

i dont know who did it. but would a cat thats really good about using a litter box, suddenly feel compelled to pee on someones bed? everyone thinks its her, as they dont think the dog would pee on his owners bed, he also has never done this.

i dont know what to think, because my mom saw my cat sleeping on her bed, so a lot of the proof points to her. also, about 20 mins before my mom saw the pee (sat on it actually lol) my cat kept coming over to me and meowing, she was just fed so i didnt know what was wrong.

could it have been her? would could have caused her to do this?

my mom does not abuse my cat, she helps in feeding her so my cat always gives her affection for her breakfast. my mom does say that today the cat was trying to get into something so she flicked some water on her fur, to make her run away, so she worries that she did it out of revenge?

please advice as im worried my cat will continue to do this (if it was her).

also, i removed as much urine with lots of paper towels, and then cleaned my moms bed with vinegar, baking soda, and some product called peepee super stain remover. will this be enough so that my cat, wont smell the pee there?

note: she is spayed, i just took her to the vet (no worms), and i regularly clean her box, i scoop twice a day. she hasnt used her box since this morning, i just checked.

ritz · Mar 17, 2013

Sorry to hear about the cat peeing on your bed.

I'm a little confused, though: are there two cats, one spayed (female) and one not neutered (male)? And a dog?

If the male peed he may have been spraying, which is usually a sign he is marking his territory.

Cats sometimes pee outside the litter box because they don't like something, like someone new coming into the house (animal or person). But equally possible, the cat has or is developing a urinary tract infection (UTI). They can develop UTIs suddenly; one sign is looking in the litter box and see if there are small clumps of pee or if you notice the cat going in and out of the litter box without peeing. A UTI especially in male cats is very serious. If he/she continues to pee outside the litter box, the cat needs to go to the vets--even if the cat has just been there. Stress can cause a UTI, and sometimes too much dry food (not enough water).

Also, maybe she/he doesn't like the litter box: do you scoop it every day? Clean it thoroughly about one a month?

I'm not familiar with the Peepee stain removal, but it is a Bio-Enzyme cleaner, which is good. But how far did the urine penetrate? If down to the mattress, then you are going to have a hard time removal the stain completely. I would try multiple applications of the peepee stain removal.

terestrife · Mar 17, 2013

no there is one spayed female cat, and there is a dog that is not neutered (not my dog). that is all. the bed, is my moms, she shares her bed with the dog. my cat every now and then will sleep on the bed, but its very rare as she has her cat tree.

i scoop 2x a day, and completely disinfect, throw out old litter once a month.

she eats wet food and small amount of snacks (freeze dried chicken).

thanks for the advice, i will keep a close eye on her!

terestrife · Mar 18, 2013

UPDATE:

okay, my cat hasnt used her litterbox since yesterday i checked at 2pm/10pm and nothing. I checked again today, at 7am and nothing. thankfully though, my mom closed the door, and as soon as i went to go check her box at 7am a few minutes later she jumped in and used it. but she normally pees/poops in the middle of the night, its weird that her box has been empty so long.

before that, my mom said she kept jumping on her bed and making a sweeping motion with her hand, like when shes in her jump. can she be trying to pee there again?

can she be rejecting her box for some reason? please advice as im very concerned.

i just cleaned her box and throw out old litter on the 9th. so im just gonna clean it out again. about a week ago, i started using pam at the bottom of her box, can this be the reason? i have changed her litter a few times and shes never peed outside her box because of different smells.

callista · Mar 18, 2013

Has she been vet checked? Sometimes, cats with a urinary tract infection will avoid their box because it hurts to pee and they associate the box with pain. If so, she needs a vet appointment and probably medication. A sudden change in behavior like that may be a physical health issue, and it's best to rule that out just in case.

Has anything changed in her environment? A new person or animal, a rearrangement of the furniture, a new cat patrolling outside the window--that kind of thing?

ritz · Mar 18, 2013

You said you started to use Pam at the bottom of the box: what is Pam?

If Pam has an odor (and cats can smell stuff humans can't), then that could be why your cat isn't using the liter box as regularly.

I agree with Callista: a sudden change in litter box behavoir usually points to a change in the environment and/or a UTI.

callista · Mar 18, 2013

Ritz said:
You said you started to use Pam at the bottom of the box: what is Pam?
If Pam has an odor (and cats can smell stuff humans can't), then that could be why your cat isn't using the liter box as regularly.
I agree with Callista: a sudden change in litter box behavoir usually points to a change in the environment and/or a UTI.

Pam is a non-stick cooking spray. It is basically oil in an aerosol can. Quite useful; you don't have to pour a puddle of oil into your cooking pans, so your food isn't greasy when you have finished cooking it. You don't have that where you are? It's very handy, and not just for cooking. If it smells like anything, it'd smell like oil, probably corn oil. I guess it's a different brand name in your area.

ritz · Mar 18, 2013

I know what Pam is, but I thought there was a different product entirely also called Pam. I couldn't imagine putting it in the bottom of a litter box (though I understand your reasoning).

Again, what we can't smell (like urine), cats can. I would definitely stop using the Pam--I think that is what your cat is reacting to.

Also, is the litter/feces/urine sticking to the bottom of the litter box? Try putting more litter in the box.

terestrife · Mar 18, 2013

Ritz said:
You said you started to use Pam at the bottom of the box: what is Pam?

If Pam has an odor (and cats can smell stuff humans can't), then that could be why your cat isn't using the liter box as regularly.

I agree with Callista: a sudden change in litter box behavoir usually points to a change in the environment and/or a UTI.

i cleaned out her box and stopped using pam before you mentioned it. lol she now has fresh litter, and no pam. but the thing is ive been using it for 2 weeks, why would it randomly bother her?

Callista said:
Has she been vet checked? Sometimes, cats with a urinary tract infection will avoid their box because it hurts to pee and they associate the box with pain. If so, she needs a vet appointment and probably medication. A sudden change in behavior like that may be a physical health issue, and it's best to rule that out just in case.

Has anything changed in her environment? A new person or animal, a rearrangement of the furniture, a new cat patrolling outside the window--that kind of thing?

i took her 2 weeks ago but only checked her fecal. no worms. but they did not check her urine, or a blood test or anything like that. there are no new people or pets. the same that have been year for a year. there are neighborhood cats, but there have always been. she likes running to the wind

terestrife · Mar 18, 2013

I know it sounds silly, but i feel in a way, like i cant trust her anymore. like in some crazy way, she betrayed me. i know its insane to feel this way, and that it was accident. i was just so proud that shes such a like i cant let her go in my room, or my moms room. we've spent all day with the doors locked to our rooms. every time she goes in my moms room she sniffs her pillow and bed.

im going to watch her, and if i see another unexplained pee, ill take her to the vet. i hate the thought of taking her, not sure i like the thought of a tube being put inside her to her bladder.

can anyone tell me what its like when they test for a UTI? im scared of her getting hurt.

ritz · Mar 19, 2013

There are three ways to get urine from a cat.

The first (and least reliable because of contaminants) is to "free catch" it. Empty the litter box, clean it well. Get very small pebbles, gravel stones like the type you find in aquariums. I've even used very small seed beads that you find in a craft store (wash well and dry). Your vet may have something like Katkor, a non-absorbing litter. Put them in the litter box--and hope your cat will pee in the box without his normal litter. (The small gravel, seed beeds and Katkor mimic regular litter so will appease his 'need to scatter litter all over' drive. Or line the litter box with a large plastic bag. Then immediately syringe the urine into a sterile container (you can get both from your vet), refrigerate it, and take it to the vets promptly. You will have to watch your cat closely--you need to get the urine sample right after he pees and refrigerate it. Ask your vet how much he needs--he'll want more than he actually needs.

The second is to take your cat to the vets and have your vet express the cat's bladder (uncomfortable maybe but quick and not painful). The vet simply presses on the cat's bladder. The tricky part with this is if your cat's bladder is empty before you take him in, the vet may have nothing to express. So, the vet may suggest you bring in your cat in the morning and leave him there all day.

Finally, the most scientific, reliable, albeit a little painful, is by using a syringe and needle that inserted through the abdomen wall directly into the bladder. The cat will have to be sedated for this but it is the only way to get a sterile sample.

I 'free catch' the urine (first one listed) when I suspected Ritz had a UTI. Your vet will probably first suggest either the free catch method or expressing the bladder.

UTIs are serious; in male cats, they can be life threatening. So a visit to the vet is advisable. UTIs are easily treated with antibiotics and pain meds.

terestrife · Mar 19, 2013

Ritz said:
There are three ways to get urine from a cat.

The first (and least reliable because of contaminants) is to "free catch" it. Empty the litter box, clean it well. Get very small pebbles, gravel stones like the type you find in aquariums. I've even used very small seed beads that you find in a craft store (wash well and dry). Your vet may have something like Katkor, a non-absorbing litter. Put them in the litter box--and hope your cat will pee in the box without his normal litter. (The small gravel, seed beeds and Katkor mimic regular litter so will appease his 'need to scatter litter all over' drive. Or line the litter box with a large plastic bag. Then immediately syringe the urine into a sterile container (you can get both from your vet), refrigerate it, and take it to the vets promptly. You will have to watch your cat closely--you need to get the urine sample right after he pees and refrigerate it. Ask your vet how much he needs--he'll want more than he actually needs.

The second is to take your cat to the vets and have your vet express the cat's bladder (uncomfortable maybe but quick and not painful). The vet simply presses on the cat's bladder. The tricky part with this is if your cat's bladder is empty before you take him in, the vet may have nothing to express. So, the vet may suggest you bring in your cat in the morning and leave him there all day.

Finally, the most scientific, reliable, albeit a little painful, is by using a syringe and needle that inserted through the abdomen wall directly into the bladder. The cat will have to be sedated for this but it is the only way to get a sterile sample.

I 'free catch' the urine (first one listed) when I suspected Ritz had a UTI. Your vet will probably first suggest either the free catch method or expressing the bladder.

UTIs are serious; in male cats, they can be life threatening. So a visit to the vet is advisable. UTIs are easily treated with antibiotics and pain meds.

Ritz:

Thanks so much for the information! i contacted my vets office yesterday, and the receptionist said that they usually use the third method and get the bladder direction from the bladder with a needle. i didnt like the sound of this, which is why i got scared of taking her in. They said a sample from her box would be contaminated.

They didnt mention the first method, i will contact them to see if thats a possibility. my cat hates the vet, so i like the idea of not making her go unless absolutely necessary.

by the way, ive been watching her and shes been using her box like normal after yesterday morning. i would still like to test her just in case. thanks for taking the time to give me so much information, i really appreciate it!

terestrife · Mar 22, 2013

I havent been able to take kitty to the vet this week, since i get paid today. Anyway, im not sure if i should still take her, ive been keeping an eye on her, and she hasnt had anymore accidents, she uses her litterbox all day, she eats and drinks water like normal. should i keep an eye to see if there are anymore accidents? or should i just take her just in case?

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