My kitty situation! Strays and ferals and spays, oh my!

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There are a couple of very young, female cats that live outside my house that my boyfriend and I have been feeding for the better part of a year now. I'm not for CERTAIN where they came from, but I'm pretty sure my neighbors left them when they moved. In any case, they were pretty pitiful and tiny when they showed up at my door but we're not allowed to have pets so I just started keeping food and water out for them.

Since then, we've had 2 tom cats hanging around (HUGE, wild looking furballs! lol) and I think we're pretty much feeding them too, since the food bowl is ALWAYS needing filled now! They will never let us get even remotely close to them, though, so I've never messed with them. Anyway, with males around, it was a pretty much a slap of reality when we realized BOTH our females were in heat.

After talking about it, we pretty much decided that we couldn't afford to feed two new sets of kittens, on top of the cats we feed now and I think I've grown a tad attached to my 'porch kitties' so 'dumping them' was way outta the question! The local shelter is high kill and has no facilities for cats anyway. Any cats they get are automatically put down. The only other shelter around here, a no-kill shelter, said they were completely full and having trouble placing even the kittens, let alone adults. No help there. We just decided to spay them both and leave everything business as usual.

Both cats were spayed yesterday morning, and are resting in my bathroom right now! :) (Hope my landlord doesn't drop in! lol) We plan to keep them in our bathroom until their pain meds run out, at the very least, which we have a four day supply of.

That's the story! Now onto the questions:

One cat is a calico, the other is tuxedo. The calico is a absolute sweetheart. She loves attention and will nuzzle and paw you like crazy to get attention. She's noticeably bigger the other cat, but still barely an adult. She also pretty much stays in our yard, instead of wandering like her 'friend.'

The tuxedo cat is a bit different, personality-wise. She loves attention, but she won't go out of her way to get it! If you manage to find her, being as she likes to take off who-knows-where and come back when she's hungry, she will let you pick her up but she stiffens up and digs her claws in. Eventually the chin-scratches win her over and she melts into a big softie, though and she hates to be put back down.

Which leads into my first question!

Since we brought them home from the vet yesterday, no one is safe! If you step in my bathroom right now, you will attacked by purring, pawing, leg rubbing fur balls and heaven help you if you need to 'sit down'. Might as well count on having a warm, fuzzy lap! Both cats are acting like they are absolutely starved for attention! Even the tuxedo, which is the part that makes me wonder. She's normally a little bit skittish and she normally makes YOU approach HER. Is it because of the surgery? Here's to hoping it stays this way, though, I love the attention myself. ;)

Second- My landlord is very against having animals in the house. When can I put them back outside? I'm nervous about that, partly because I worry about infection and because the calico would NOT stop pulling at her stitches when we first brought them home. She seems to be content to ignore them now, though. If I catch her doing it again, I'll ask about getting her a cone.

Lastly, the males. I hate the idea of having someone 'get rid of them' so that's not an option for me, but I would love to not get woke up in the middle of the night by a yowling cat fight under my house anymore! Also, even though we keep food out, I've caught them in our trash, which is disgusting to me! (I know that's what they do to get by, but I have a diapered toddler...need I say more?) Are there 'nice' ways to make them find somewhere else to roam around?
 

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Best thing for the males is TNR - trap them, get them castrated and let them go again.

And so glad you took the sensible choice with the girls and got them spayed.

If they have external stitches they need keeping in until those can come out and they certainly must not go out if they have a cone.
 

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Best thing for the males is TNR - trap them, get them castrated and let them go again.

And so glad you took the sensible choice with the girls and got them spayed.

If they have external stitches they need keeping in until those can come out and they certainly must not go out if they have a cone.
I second this!  TNR is what the doctor prescribes for the toms.  Use a trap.  Exactly HOW you will do it, you are welcome to our Ferales Forum for ideas and suggestions.

About the females, so they arent shy semiferales, they are fully pettable!  You can perhaps manage to find them some adoption home?  Ring around your contact net. Relatives, school pals, work comrades, neigbours...  Try to keep them inside till you found them homes.  I hope your landlord does accept this, even if he finds out.

You probably dont need to use these pain killers more than some day, they will manage. Also, there is the risk without pain they will begin to move and jump waay to early.

Tx for helping these little sisters of ours!

Welcome to our Forums!

Good luck!
 

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Tnr the boys.  It will give them a much higher quality of life and reduce wounds/infection risks.

I have taken in cats who were shy and once settled showed a different personality then when outside.  I think part is fear and part is remembering being loved on at one point. I have let my spayed ferals go as soon as 2 days but she was very distressed and I thought it be in her best interest.  I do not worry much about stitches past the first few days.  They would have to tug pretty good to do any damage and I feel at that point the pain from what they are doing would stop them. 

I would not worry much about the landlord-just tell him you made it so they can not have litter after litter running around.  Make it sound like you were trying to help him/keep values up on house.  Also the boys spray and it is damaging to paint/smelly so you did the girls first and plan to do the boys later.
 
 

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God bless you!  And thank you for having these girls spayed.  Is there a home you might be able to find for them?  That would be my first choice if I couldn't keep them inside as they sound like housecats, rather that feral.

If that isn't an option, they can go outside again and if you provide them with food and shelter, they should be fine.  Remember though, that this is a commitment to them, so if and when you move, you're going to be responsible for their well being - either by taking them with you or making other arrangements for their care.  It sounds like this might be in your plans, so good for you!

I agree that for your own peace of mind, the boys should be TNR's (trapped, neutered and returned).  If the girls go to live outside again and you continue feeding them, you know the boys will continue eating, too. 


You may also find yourself attracting other starving kitties, so a routine (food down at at certain time and taken up at another certain time; never left out overnight) is usually best when you're feeding outside cats.  That way, others aren't drawn to the waiting food.  "Your" girls will learn te routine soon enough.

Is there a TNR group nearby that can help you (lending you traps, maybe hooking you up with low-cost surgeries?)

Again, God bless you and good luck!
 
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I haven't put any food out since the night before last, when we put the cats in our bathroom to keep them from hunting before their surgery the next morning. I'm going to look into how to trap the feral males after the females are healed up.

Any idea where to find a 'TNR' group or 'cost help' for northeastern ky? We didn't look for any help spaying the females but it would nice to have help with the males!

Also, I think we're leaning more towards finding homes for the females now, since they are already spayed and so, so friendly! But at the same time....we're looking for a new place, and I like the idea of keeping them for myself!! Lol, Libras can never make decisions...

Thanks for all the help and speedy replies!
 

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Could go to petfinder.com and email/call a few local groups(including humane societys).  They may have group rates with a certain vet or know a program.  If you are doing the hard work of trapping/recovering it may be worth a shot to ask neighbors if they would be willing to donate.  Stress the smell issue will go away(kids play toys/cars/porches)
 

Look under vet in phone book some will have the low cost clinics there, call local vets and ask.  I found a vet to do neuters/rabies fairly cheap and I never thought the vet was so cheap for neuters!
 
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Thanks everyone for all the help! I followed some links and suggestions and I'm well on my way to finishing what I started! Lol. :) Have a nice night!
 
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