Pepcid ac, results in 10 minutes

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I've now seen this enough times to be sure of it. The pepcid ac takes ten minutes to work. :)

This morning, after her second breakfast portion, Mazy showed signs of feeling urpy. While I know the pepcid makes her feel better, it has it's own drawbacks and I don't want to use it every day. So I have other tricks I try first.

She does get a dose every 4 days (with first meal of the morning) on a routine basis, that regimen is based on many weeks of watching her patterns. But sometimes she needs extra help.

Sometimes she just needs to be distracted until the food settles and she brings the burp up. Distracting her with play will work, on occasion. She avoided the Game this morning though so I knew she needed stronger measures.

My next trick is to shut her in the bathroom for a few minutes. This way 1) if she pukes, it is contained on a washable floor or 2) her efforts to release herself distracts her enough she forgets about hurling. This often is an effective method. It takes her about two minutes to get the door open, if I stick a slipper under it to hold it closed. That two minutes can give her enough distraction to forget about the urge to hurl. Often Queen Eva either plays footsies with her outside the door, or goes in with her. This morning Queen Eva kept her company and it sounded like they had a good romp in there before working on pushing the door open.

So, she came out and seemed okay. Whew. But after the third breakfast serving, (each meal is half hour apart) she again had that hunched "my tummy hurts" look. My last effort before pepcid ac is catnip. Catnip is good for indigestion. I gave her a nice fat bud (the other two had some too). This really seemed to perk her up. I have all the windows open as usual when doing housework on Sunday morning and they all dashed around from window to window and started a wild Chase Me Chase You Game and she seemed to be having a good time.

Another hour went by and I noticed Mazy again sitting with that hunched "my tummy hurts" look. So..even though I helped her keep her food down, she still wasn't feeling better so I had to go with the pepcid ac (1/4 of a ten mg tablet)

To give her pepcid at a time other than the every four day right before a first meal routine, I use PureBites freeze dried chicken treats. I give her a piece, then mash the pepcid into the next piece and she eats it right up, then I give her another to 'wash' it all down. They all gathered round and we had a bit of a Chase The Treat Game, since I haven't vacuumed yet anyway.

Exactly 10 minutes later, just like I have observed other times, Mazy clearly felt all better. Her eyes got brighter, her face lost it's pinched look and she stopped hunching.

I supposed I could just use the pepcid at the first sign of trouble, but those other methods do work sometimes, so I like to avoid it if I can.

Two of the main side effects of regular pepcid use are constipation and Vitamin B-12 depletion (it blocks the absorption of B-12) Mazy takes a B complex supplement daily so I don't worry too much about that any more. Her diet improvements eliminated the constipation problems she was having before, but I have seen some evidence of it returning, if she takes pepcid for more than three days in a row, and of course constipation brings it's own host of problems.

Now, what I do when she has to have an extra pepcid dose is start the four day count from the day of the extra again. I'm glad it helps her feel better....but I will always try the other ways first.

Ohhhh yes, she is feeling so much better now.....zzzooommm, there she goes!!!
 
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Hi, otto!

Every - even tiny - success with these little ones is an event to be celebrated, isn't it?

I have not been following your and Mazy's journey, I'm only dropping you a note because I've just now come from reading the latest message on Tanys's CRF Support group - there is a reference indicating some people were finding that 'Zantac working better than Pepcid...' - and that message string shows many people also using SEB syrup concurrently.....

I'm not making any suggestions - please understand that! - I'm only posting as a FWIW....and, because of the coincidence of having just noticed that before reading your post.

Those "zzzooommm's" say it all, don't they
 
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Than you for your support and suggestions! The Slippery Elm Bark is still being held on to as the next thing to try. I am reluctant to add any more treatments at this time as, with a few backward stumbles, Mazy cat's progress has been, in the big picture, slow improvement. SEB has it's own set of side effects, everything does, nothing comes without cost.

I'll ask my vet about zantac. I already asked her about SEB. She is very suspicious of anything herbal and wouldn't comment other than to remind me how she feels about trying herbal remedies for cats. She's supportive of the raw diet, and even was interested and open minded about the egg yolk lecithin. But mention anything herbal to her, and she closes down a bit.

However, that won't stop me from trying the SEB, if Mazy seems to hit a downward spiral, as opposed to the slow but mostly regular progress she has made.

Most of her struggle is in this thread (but it doesn't contain the original history, which is that Mazy was on Hill's c/d "prescription" kibble for 6 1/2 years and it just about ruined her health, digestion and quality of life, that is a separate thread).:
http://www.thecatsite.com/t/250438/mazy-cats-new-record/60#post_3311758
 
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PS could you link me to the discussion at Tanya's? I'd like to read it, but always get confused when I try to navigate that website.

PS again something I am watching is her canned food, I just started a new batch, and the texture/consistency of it is slightly different from the last batch. Mazy can't take any variation in her canned portions. She has no trouble with the raw rotation, but can only tolerate ONE commercial canned (processed) food. She's been eating the new batch for 9 days now, and looking back in the record, there have been more urpy feeling days than not since starting it.

Perhaps it would be better to increase her routine dose to more frequently (every three days or even every two days) for a while until her body adjusts to the new batch.
 
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otto, the discussion I referenced was going on inside Tanya's Yahoo Group. Now, that is a membership-only group - which you could easily join. All of the messages (discussions) posted there are only accessible to registered members, so linking for you is impossible. As well, because of Yahoo privacy and members' copyright issues, I can't post those messages.

Again, you could join up...if you do, you can look for a string of messages (a thread on TCS) with a title similar to 'Smelling acid on a cat's breath' - the most recent of which will be dated today. If you are going to join, I'd strongly recommend getting a new Yahoo addy that you would use only for that group. It's extremely busy on there these days (I was shocked to see about 3000 messages a month!) - a separate email account will make managing them easier. Here is the join-up page http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/tanyas-crf-support/

How the group works - including the navigation of all those messages is explained here http://www.felinecrf.org/tanyas_support_group.htm

Just a tidbit you might be able to use to get your Vet onside: here are some of the accreditations Tanya's site has received, as taken from its homepage
REVIEWS AND AWARDS

"You might be interested to know that I refer veterinarians to the information on your site quite often.

It came up recently regarding one of the experimental therapies and

I just linked to your site and said the folks that run that site are knowledgeable and responsible

and if they say it there, it's been researched and is up-to-date.

I consider what you do in trying to help cat owners to be the work of "angels"."

Dr Katherine James, DVM, PhD

Urology and Nephrology Specialist at the Veterinary Information Network

March 2007

 

*****

 

Recommended by Catwatch,

the newsletter of Cornell University College of Veterinary Medicine

May 2011

 

*****

 

Recommended by the

American Association of Feline Practitioners

 

Recommended in the Feline Advisory Bureau Journal
I mean, how could she say no in the face of all those???

On the apparent variation in her canned food: Exactly which food is it? Perhaps I could some "sniffing around"...
 
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