Dog fight , please help

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Well it happen again . My 2 dogs had a fight again . My husband was not thinking and went out in to the back yard and Toby (dog) slip right out and there was Klondike (dog). They startet right away to bite each other
. I was so upsad but made the decition to let them fight it out this time . Well they did
, both dogs are bleeding but not badly hurt . I had to wash both dogs , they were a mess from dirt and blood . So Klondike is in the front porch now and Toby insite the house . So now my question . Can I now let both dogs together in the back yard or do I need to separed again ??? I don't want then to fight any more . Please I really need help .
 

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I don't know the background for these two pooches but it definitely sounds like they don't like each other much. Our dog Zowie won't tolerate another dog near her for any reason. Before my husband and I met she apparenlty almost killed a smaller dog(Zowie is about 65 pounds)We actually have to take her in the back way at the vet or she will attack the other patients.

Best thing I can tell you is to keep them separated. I know that's not the easiest piece of advice in the world and I truly hope someone will come up with something better and say "That Lots lady don't know squat."
 

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If you are going to keep these dogs together, they will need to come to some mutual understanding of each other. Invest in soft muzzles for them, and only let them near each other when muzzled. It sounds cruel, but it is better than injury. They need to get used to each other's presence without injuring each other. Gradual introductions, fully muzzled, and let them do the full nose and butt sniff with each other repeatedly.

Is one of these your daughter's dogs?
 

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Sorry, you are having this problem.

Please do not just let them fight it out. They will fight one day until one does not get up.

Being a former dog trainer, I would advise you locate a trainer, that will come to your home and evaluate the dogs, and advise you on what actions to take.

Two dogs that do not get along can be a very dangerous situation.
I have dealt with this kind of behavior, and each situation is different, depending on the dogs, owners and the like.

Good luck
 

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Are these two dogs contained in the yard? Are they on chains? Do you take them for walks and runs and play with them? Are they neutered? Is there another dog (or person) in the vicinity that is egging them on? Is someone in your family egging them on to fight? I agree with a trainer or at least taking these dogs through basic obedience courses.
 

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i dont think i would let them near each other until i could get some help from someone who could train them to except one another, sorry you are going through this, i guess they are like some people, you know certain people just cant get along together, good luck with them
 
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Thank you all for your responses . Both dogs are rescue dogs . One dog Klondike is longer with us about 3 years and is always a outsite dog . We did try him insite when we got him , but he will chase all the cats and try to catch them . He also is a bad marker , every wall and corner in the house he marks .Klondike is not neuter yet , but will be in the next few weeks . We had to much vet bills , thats why he is not fixed .Over the day he stay in the back yard and in the night we got him a doghouse in the carport chained on a leash . But he was befor a outsite dog and was already grown when we got him . The other dog Toby , we rescue last year . Toby just got neuter last Friday . He is a great insite dog and love cats . When we got Toby both dogs were ok the first 3 days . Then what I think happen they got jelous (sp) at each other and started fighting . Since that time we keep them all the time separated . That was the 4st time they were fighting . We all play with both dogs and walk with them and try to treat them the same way , of course one is insite and the other outsite thats the only difference .MA , nobody in our house is trying to provoke them to fight . We all , my husband , son and I love each one of the dogs . We all do get very absad when something like that happens .Our yard is fenced in . Next door are 2 dogs and Klondike is constandly barking at them , that only started a few month ago when they got a Roweiler puppy girl and Klondike don't like her . Klondike don't like any dogs who is biger then him and has no problem with smaller dogs . Thats funny , I wonder why . I sure will keep them separated again if you all think they may fight again . I was hoping that after today it would be over .The last time we separate them my husband got bit by mistake and the fight befor I got bit by one of them . Thats why we said let them fight it out , maybe they will settle after they fight it out . They stop fighting by themself today and Toby was the looser , but he was kind of hiding from klondike . So you all think they would fight again ???
 

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Sometimes keeping dogs on chains will provoke them to fight. If there were some way to put them in a yard kennel, that would be better for them. I did not think you abused your dogs, just asking the same questions I would ask of someone who brought in an unruly dog to Obedience Class, which is something Mike and I used to teach. Getting the one dog neutered will help- and taking them for long runs and walks will help as well. If they are rescue dogs, they may have bad memories they are now fighting and being on a chain may provoke those memories in a bad way.

We had one abused shepherd here last year, and when we got him, he was in horrible shape! We started feeding him and caring for him with love and he started to slowly respond, but as he got stronger, because he was food abused prior to arriving here, he got food aggressive, then he got downright mean and started attacking the horses, stalking the cats and stalking the neighbor's grandchildren. I called the vet and he came out and gave Chewy a shot to put him down. The vet says sometimes they cannot survive the abuse, no matter how much love you give them. Sometimes the repressed memories come to a head and there is nothing you can do to help them.
 
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MA , I know you were not thinking that I was abuse any of my dogs . I answered to fill in the questions and back ground of the dogs .
Klondike is most of the day in the back yard not chained at all . The only time he is chained is when he needs to go in the front for the night , or when I let Toby out in the back yard . Toby is scared to death now to go in to the back yard and I had to go with him out there this morning . So I guess I will continue to keep them away from each other .Klondike will be neuter on the next pay day of the first of the next month , so we can catch up with our payments at the vet in the time between . I have to atmitt (sp) that I was not really walking both of them lately , being bussy helping my husband adding on to the enclosure and painting there . Be sure I will pick up with walking them every day faithfully again , I guess I got lazy in the evening and tired . But we do play a lot with the dogs every day . Thanks again MA for your help .
Thank you Sicy .
 

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Originally posted by nighteyes
Sorry, you are having this problem.

Please do not just let them fight it out. They will fight one day until one does not get up.

Being a former dog trainer, I would advise you locate a trainer, that will come to your home and evaluate the dogs, and advise you on what actions to take.

Two dogs that do not get along can be a very dangerous situation.
I have dealt with this kind of behavior, and each situation is different, depending on the dogs, owners and the like.

Good luck
I don't have anything to add except that nighteyes is exactly right!
I used to be in the dog show business and some training, heed nighteyes advice!
 
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A shorrt up date on both dogs .
Both dogs are their normal selfs again and yes they still don't like each other . We walk the dogs more now , witch we havent then . Klondike got neuter last Friday and is doing well . He was so happy to come back home on Saturday
. It is funny that klondike took it more easy getting neuter then Toby . Toby was depressed for a week or so . We still keep them both separate from each other . I was thinking of a run in the back yard , but we are not sure yet what and if we going to do that . We still have to do a lot on the addition my husband builds .
 
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