A sudden picky eater

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Maybe the folks here can offer some advice...I've just about exhausted all possibilities with trying to feed my cat Kip. He was never a picky eater before - he ate the Purina Urinary Tract Health kibbles the other kitties ate for years and managed to plump up. Lately, though, he's been being a finicky little snot and he's losing weight from it. He's not interested in the Purina kibbles - he might pick at them for a couple seconds, but nothing much. He was eating canned food every day for a while, but now doesn't want it; before, he ate whatever canned food I put in front of him. Friskies, Meow Mix, Fancy Feast, he ate it all. Now if he so much as sniffs the wet food, it's a good day. Usually he'll just stare at it or back away from it like it's nuclear waste.

I've tried everything to get him to eat...made sure he didn't get the same brand or flavor two days in a row, tried mixing pate with warm water or nuking it for about 4 seconds to get it warm, tried the shredded wet food instead of pate, tried mixing it with milk (since he seems to like cow's milk), even tried dabbing the gravy on his nose to show him that it was food. Even tried meat baby food. The most he'll do is lap at the food maybe once or twice, but then he leaves the rest. I've tried leaving it out for him, still nothing.

Recently, I tried giving him Purina dry kitten chow. I know he used to like that when I fed it to Caspurr - I caught him chowing down on it a few times, but he's turning his nose up at that too! The only way he'll eat the kitten chow is if I place a few kibbles in front of him, and even then, he may only eat 5 teaspoonfuls of kibbles. I do leave his kitten food out all day because if he happens to get hungry, I want him to eat.

I don't know what's the matter with him, and I can't believe he's that stubborn that he'd rather starve than eat canned food. For a former stray, he is by far the most finicky cat I've ever seen. And why he started doing it out of nowhere is beyond me. He's fine otherwise - drinking, peeing, normal behavior and sleeping patterns. I still find some stools in the cat box, so he's eating some. And while he's not an unhealthy weight, I would like to get him back up to his old 15 pounds (I'm guessing that's his former weight. Now he's more like maybe 11). I really don't want to force feed him, but I will if I have to. Why's he doing this? I don't think it's in response to my kitty Rolly being gone since the behavior started before Rolly got sick. Note, I started feeding him more wet food because I noticed he has some trouble picking up dry kibbles and I assumed he lost some more teeth. He only had about half his teeth when I found him, so I figured he had no front teeth to pick up food with. But he can pick up his dry kitten food just fine. Where there's a will, there's a way, it seems.

The one thing he continues to actually like is deli turkey. I've tried putting it on or under wet catfood and he just picks the turkey out and leaves the rest. This cat turns down wet catfood (even walks away from cooked chicken), but will eat bizarre things like canteloupe and sweet potato chips. I might consider just not feeding him for a day, but he probably does that by himself already, so it won't do any good. I've never had a picky cat, so I don't know what to do. Should I put him on appetite stimulants? I'm sick of throwing away catfood or feeding it to the dogs. Kip has never had a big appetite before, but why in the world is he so picky all of a sudden? He did eat a can of Fancy Feast (I forget what flavor) a few days ago when I left it in one of his sleeping spots, but that trick never worked again. I just lost two kitties about a month apart and I really don't want a third one getting sick because he's decided to starve himself.
 

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I'm wondering if Kip's mouth is bothering him. Since he's missing teeth they are missing for a reason, and whatever happened to them may be happening to more of them. I'd recommend getting him in and have the vet take a look in his mouth. Sorry you have to cope with this on top of everything you've been through the past week or so.
 
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Oh hun, sorry you are going through so much :hugs:
I also suggest a vet trip.... Since this is not very much like him, I think something might be going on, rather than him being finicky. The sudden change, the big weight loss.... those things can be a sign of trouble.
I would check the mouth and I would also ask for a complete test - including thyroid, urinalysis, and a full CBC.
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Part of me wonders if he's just holding out for something better. Just about every time I go in the kitchen, he'll meow at me. If I open the refrigerator, he's in there looking around. I also wondered about a possible dental issue, and maybe that he was getting frustrated with trying to eat and just gave up entirely. Sometimes when he plays, he'll sit there with his mouth open and this lets me get a better look at his teeth. From what I can see, he's got all his back teeth, but is missing all but one front tooth and none of them are black or icky looking, no red or bleeding gums. Maybe he's lost his sense of smell and can't tell what's food and what isn't anymore? I don't think the weight loss is a symptom happening on its own, though - I think it's just that he hasn't been eating as well. I admit I wasn't paying him as much attention as normal over the last few months because I was worrying about and caring for Caspurr and Rolly, but my boyfriend did remark that he felt lighter. At the very least, he seems to be holding steady at his current weight rather than continuing to lose, which is good. I don't know, maybe he eats when I'm asleep now. I'll get him to the vet as soon as I can...yeesh, the vets are probably putting down payments on boats with how much I've given them in the last few months.

I should also mention that I'm not sure of Kip's age. I've had him for about 8 years, but he was an adult when I found him. I'm going to estimate he's anywhere from 10 to 13 years old.

ETA: His breath seems a little rank too, so maybe it is a dental issue. Hopefully the vet will have less trouble seeing his teeth because when I looked in his mouth, he started gagging and dry heaving. I didn't put anything in his mouth...just the act of holding it open made him freak out. He didn't make any noise, so I don't know if he's in any pain in his mouth or not.
 
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I would check the mouth and I would also ask for a complete test - including thyroid, urinalysis, and a full CBC.
:yeah: Definitely, have it all done. And I wouldn't put it off. Weight loss can be very harmful in cats. The liver could fail.

It's awful you have to cope with this right now. Life never quits sometimes. :hugs:
 

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Part of me wonders if he's just holding out for something better. Just about every time I go in the kitchen, he'll meow at me. If I open the refrigerator, he's in there looking around. I also wondered about a possible dental issue, and maybe that he was getting frustrated with trying to eat and just gave up entirely. Sometimes when he plays, he'll sit there with his mouth open and this lets me get a better look at his teeth. From what I can see, he's got all his back teeth, but is missing all but one front tooth and none of them are black or icky looking, no red or bleeding gums. Maybe he's lost his sense of smell and can't tell what's food and what isn't anymore? I don't think the weight loss is a symptom happening on its own, though - I think it's just that he hasn't been eating as well. I admit I wasn't paying him as much attention as normal over the last few months because I was worrying about and caring for Caspurr and Rolly, but my boyfriend did remark that he felt lighter. At the very least, he seems to be holding steady at his current weight rather than continuing to lose, which is good. I don't know, maybe he eats when I'm asleep now. I'll get him to the vet as soon as I can...yeesh, the vets are probably putting down payments on boats with how much I've given them in the last few months.
I should also mention that I'm not sure of Kip's age. I've had him for about 8 years, but he was an adult when I found him. I'm going to estimate he's anywhere from 10 to 13 years old.
ETA: His breath seems a little rank too, so maybe it is a dental issue. Hopefully the vet will have less trouble seeing his teeth because when I looked in his mouth, he started gagging and dry heaving. I didn't put anything in his mouth...just the act of holding it open made him freak out. He didn't make any noise, so I don't know if he's in any pain in his mouth or not.
I agree with Otto. He may have an abcess or something else you can't see. I would definitely get him to the vet as soon as possible. His not eating is not a good thing and I can tell you are getting frustrated. Have the teeth checked and may have some blood tests done. Hope this gets resolved real soon. Keep us updated if you can.
 
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The thing I don't get is this: Why is he eating kibbles, but turning away from wet food? That's so bizarre to me because you'd think wet food would be easier to eat. And I watched him eat earlier - he seems to swallow the kibbles because I don't hear any crunching going on. For reasons I have yet to understand, he won't eat food out of his dish. However, if I set some kibbles in front of him a little at a time when he's lying down, he may eat. Also, if I sprinkle a few kibbles on the places he likes to sleep, I often find later he's eaten them (maybe because he doesn't want to lay on the food, but wants to lay in that spot). It's the strangest thing.
 

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That's so bizarre to me because you'd think wet food would be easier to eat.
Well, we have a cat with a painful mouth condition who only gets wet food (ground raw...but I've watched her eat canned too) and I've been surprised to observe that there is actually a good bit of work that goes into licking up wet food.  She is much slower at eating it than the other cats.  With dental problems sometimes their tongue and connective tissues in the mouth can be inflamed and painful.  So the work of lapping up food could be difficult.  And like you noticed they often don't chew kibble.  And since it is easy to pick up into the mouth it could actually be less painful to pick up  swallow the kibble whole than lapping up wet food.   Our cat with the painful mouth does get some dry bits of freeze dried food and she is much more efficient at eating those. 

I think a thorough check of the mouth by a vet would be a good thing (along with a good general check up, of course.)
 
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Unless the vet has some special technique I don't know about, I wouldn't be surprised if my kitty had to be sedated just for a mouth exam. I know Kip's eating something because every day when I clean out the litter box, I find some stools. I don't remember if I cleaned the litter boxes yesterday (I admit to slacking due to the loss of Rolly and litter boxes not being a top priority for a day or so), but today I did and there were several little presents left for me indicating my kitty is eating solid food. So at least I know he's getting some calories in his belly. I also notice his one remaining canine tooth looks a little tartar-y and almost like the gum has receded and the root is starting to show. I don't know if that tooth is causing an issue because I've touched it before and he didn't throw a fit (and it isn't loose). I know the local clinic does X-rays (which I know are often used in diagnosing dental problems), but I don't know if they do tooth extractions if that's what Kip might need done. I don't understand this kitty - tonight, he ate peppercorn-ranch chips, turkey, milk, licked a few drops of wine off the floor that someone spilled...but he won't eat cat food. If I didn't love him so much, I'd boot him right in the patoot.
 
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The thing I don't get is this: Why is he eating kibbles, but turning away from wet food? That's so bizarre to me because you'd think wet food would be easier to eat. And I watched him eat earlier - he seems to swallow the kibbles because I don't hear any crunching going on. For reasons I have yet to understand, he won't eat food out of his dish. However, if I set some kibbles in front of him a little at a time when he's lying down, he may eat. Also, if I sprinkle a few kibbles on the places he likes to sleep, I often find later he's eaten them (maybe because he doesn't want to lay on the food, but wants to lay in that spot). It's the strangest thing.
I don't feed kibble but when Tolly :angel: would be developing another resorptive lesion he would go off his wet food and I would have to give him kibble until I could get him to the vet. My guess is that the wet food would get into the tiny holes in his tooth landing on the exposed nerves. Kibble he ate whole so there were no crumbs or pieces to cause pain.

If Kip needs to be sedated a quick whiff of sevoflurane gas should be all that is needed. It's fast acting and will put him out long enough for the vet to have a good look in his mouth.
 
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Holy crap, Kip was meowing for food for the first time in days today! He didn't eat a whole can, but I was glad to see he still has something resembling an appetite. Also, I think maybe he has a preference for the shredded fish Fancy Feast because he's been turning up his nose at all the other flavors. Not saying I won't have his mouth looked at, but I'm just glad he was actually hungry enough to beg (note, he has access to kibbles all the time if he wants to graze). Is it okay that he's swallowing kibbles whole, though? He's not vomiting or anything, but just wondering if that's okay? Should I try breaking the kibbles up into smaller pieces? Blah, I wish I had more of that A/D sensitive stomach dry food - he seemed to like that (vet gave me that for Caspurr back when the vet suspected digestive issues were causing her vomiting), but since he doesn't have a stomach issue, I don't know if the vet would prescribe any. Or maybe they will since they seem to like trying to sell me stuff - just about every visit for Caspurr ended with me taking home a bottle/bag of something that wasn't medication.
 

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When are you taking him to the vet? I wouldn't wait much longer..... In all honesty, I wouldn't be waiting any longer.... I would probably be starting assist feeding at this point - spoon feeding.... syringe.... something. But he's got to eat more.
Hope he goes in very soon :vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes:
 

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4lbs?? Yea, I really would not put off going to the vet any longer, that's more than a quarter of his weight!
 

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When Lazlo started becoming "picky," it turned out he had a massive mass in his stomach. He had large cell lymphoma, and the problem was that he was nauseous. He would act hungry, but nothing smelled appealing. We opted for chemo, and on January 30th, we celebrated one year of being in remission. He still has issues with nausea at times though, and I can tell he's not feeling well when he isn't eating right.

I'd go to the vet. I seriously doubt he's just become "picky." I suspect he's picky because there's a medical problem. :vibes: :vibes: :vibes:
 
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You are seriously risking fatty liver disease and I would not wait even one more day to get him to the vet! 
 

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:vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes: Kip :heart3: You've been through so much lately, gosh I am praying he is okay.
 
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