Previous owner trying to reclaim my cat??

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Long story short, my roommate gave me her cat a couple months ago. After a dispute over some bills (her dog incurred a large carpet damage bill, that I made her pay for), she is ticked off and is now trying to reclaim my cat by saying she "never gave it" to me, even though she did and the cat's been under my care and possession for months. Unfortunately this was a verbal agreement, there was no contract or payment, and I basically have no idea how to prove that she did in fact give me the cat. Attempts to try to trip her up via text message have failed, she obviously knows what she is doing and is doing it purposely to spite me.

I could easily give the cat back to her, except for the fact that it's been MY pet for half a year, and she treats it like crap. That was why I pursuaded her to give it to me in the first place. She never fed it, cleaned it's litter once in two months (!!!), never pet it/showed it affection, and there were a few other incidents that I would consider abusive. She also had a dog on the premises, and although it was only medium sized and not generally a violent breed, it was still much larger/stronger than the poor cat, and she would urge the dog to "attack" the cat then smile with glee as it attacked and poor kitty went running for her life. The cat obviously didn't understand this, didn't like it, and didn't consider it "play" (especially when the dog would have it by the neck). There were other things besides that (I don't want to write a novel), but something else that concerned me was the fact that she got rid of her last cat (when she decided she didn't want it anymore) by letting it out of her car on the side of the freeway. She literally told me that and alarm bells went off in my head. She is moving soon to a dorm (she's in college) and I know for a fact she can't keep this cat even if I did give it to her, so God only knows what she plans on doing with it. She has some mental issues aside from all of this, and has damaged her own property before for attention, so I honestly do fear that she could hurt the cat for attention, or to purposely try to nurse it back to health (long story behind this, but it is a valid concern of mine and very much justified!). The things she has done to the cat have never been directly physical to the cat, so there never 'evidence' to photograph and whatnot. More of neglect and mistreatment (yelling at it, throwing things at it etc), which obviously can't be proven... All of that stopped once she gave me the cat anyways, mostly because I kept it in my room away from her whenever she was home.

I'm moving across the country in a few days, and am unsure what to do. I literally have no proof that the cat has been mine for months, and she is unrelenting in her quest to "get it back". I am NOT leaving this animal in her care, I love this cat whole heartedly and would not surrender it to her even with a gun to my head. She is psycho and my cat deserves a full and loving life, not to be taken back out of spite and then somehow disposed of when she moves. My question is, if she calls the police or tries to bring any action against me to reclaim the cat, how do I prove she is mine?? I have a bill for vaccines from half a year ago (in my name), as well as cat food/litter/treats/grooming brushes on my grocery bills from the last couple months (I save everything). Is this sufficient to prove that I was the sole caretaker?? On the flip side, I have no idea if the cat is microchipped and whether that is in her name or not, or if she could use older vet bills (since the cat was initially hers) to prove she owned it first. Help!
 

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I would do everything in my power to keep that monster away from this cat.  NO WAY should you return it.  Is the kitty happy with you?  I don't know what the "laws" are in this case, but I'd break every one of 'em to keep the cat away from a person like that.  
 

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If you're moving across the country in a couple of days, it's very unlikely that she can take any action in such a short period of time. The police are hardly going to show up at your door and impound your cat at her say so and would most probably tell her to find a lawyer, anyway. You could get your cat checked for a microchip at the vet's (and chip her in your name if she's not already chipped; be sure to change the address details after your move).
 

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Where did she get the cat?  From a breeder, shelter, found it, given by another person?  If she doesn't have any record of acquiring the cat (adoption forms, etc) then I would imagine that she wouldn't really have a case since vet records and receipts for cat items are in your name.
 
 

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If you're moving across the country in a couple of days, it's very unlikely that she can take any action in such a short period of time. The police are hardly going to show up at your door and impound your cat at her say so and would most probably tell her to find a lawyer, anyway. You could get your cat checked for a microchip at the vet's (and chip her in your name if she's not already chipped; be sure to change the address details after your move).
   Absolutely.

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Threecatowner - Yes! Honestly I love her so much, and I believe she is VERY happy to have found a forever home with me... I treat her like a princess and don't understand how psycho- err- I mean "roommate" did not treat her like the treasure she is. She bursts into an audible purr whenever I walk into a room and sleeps on top of my feet every night.. we cuddle and she "kitty kisses" my nose.. it's kind of ridiculous haha. I think that's why roommate is so mad, because the poor cat never showed her any affection and would literally run from her to me! It's like she's trying to get back at me out of jealousy or something?

JCat - As we speak, my cat is with a friend for safe keeping... I still have belongings at the residence I shared with roommate, so I moved cat off the property (roommate doesn't know this friend exists, let alone where they live) so she couldn't just come in with her key while I was gone or something and take her! I'm not picking up cat until I leave for the airport, which I'm doing three full days before roommate thinks I'm supposed to move out. Geez, I feel like I'm stealing my own pet!! Just trying to make sure everything goes smoothly and she doesn't get "reclaimed" by police or something horrible in the mean time
 I have no idea if she has a microchip, my vet never scanned, it was just a vaccine appt... If she does, will I be able to update this information without roommate being notified of my new address?? She knows I'm moving but doesn't know it's out of state and across the country (as you can imagine, we don't talk much lol)...

DuckDodgers - She got the cat from a stranger out of a newspaper ad... They were giving their cat away and she got it for free. I have no idea what previous records she has, when she gave her to me I asked for her vet records etc and she said she'd get them but she never did. Eventually I let it go, realizing asking again would cause more drama than it was worth (or potentially cause her to change her mind about the cat entirely) so I dropped it. I know the cat was taken to the vet at least once in her name, so she does have records for that, plus friends who know the cat used to be hers (but know she gave it me)... No idea about chipping, that's why I'm so paranoid.

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The police never get involved in these things. It's a civil matter. If she wants the cat back, she'd have to take you to small claims court and prove ownership. Which I doubt she cares enough to do, and doubt she could prove anything if she did. Obviously, if she still has a key, she might steal the cat back, so it's good he's out of the house. Other than that, I'm pretty sure there's nothing to worry about. So, block her number, or at least stop answering her texts/calls.

You need a rabies certificate to take her across state lines, so if that's in your name I think you're good. Also, if you've been exclusively caring for an animal for a certain amount of time (in some states as short as 10 days, other states longer), ownership automatically defaults to you.

That said, you do want to see if she's microchipped, because if she gets lost you don't want them calling the roommate. If she's not 'chipped yet, have it done now. A lot of shelters will scan for 'chips and will inject them for less than what a vet would charge.
 
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danikak said:
If she does, will I be able to update this information without roommate being notified of my new address?? She knows I'm moving but doesn't know it's out of state and across the country (as you can imagine, we don't talk much lol)...
You probably won't be able to update the info without her permission. At least that's how it works here.
 

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If she got her from a newspaper ad then it is most likely that she does not have any sort of adoption contract/certificate.  I would also hazard to guess that she does not have a microchip, but for your piece of mind I would have your friend take her to a local vet clinic or shelter to be scanned.  Without either of those things I don't think she would have a case at all.  You say that you can't trip her up via text message now, but in the past have you ever exchanged messages containing language such as "your cat" and "my cat" with you being the owner?  I think that moving earlier than you told her is a good idea.  You'll be gone before she expects anything is going to happen.  I would also try to spend as little time in your (soon to be) former residence as you can to avoid any sort of confrontation with her.  Perhaps even move all of your stuff to your friend's house if possible.  That may seem overly paranoid, but I don't know this girl and how much of a threat she can be.  I think that if matters really came down to it you would have more of a legal case than her, but with people like this it is best to avoid conflict altogether.  Once you're gone she will probably lose interest in the debate quickly. 
 
 

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Take her with you, just disappear with her.  You are over thinking this - the police across the country are not going to pursue an alleged cat- napping.  No real dollar value in the cat, right?  Cops have much better things to do.  Relax and try to forget about this nightmare of a roommate.

Enjoy your new life in a new place!
 
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Thanks so much for all the replies! It's nice to feel supported, this is turning into so much more of a hassle than it ever needed to be! Do I need the microchip updated (if she has one) to take her out of state? I'm thinking no, cause I don't think airport people care that much... but what about when I go to register her at a new vet in my new state? I can't update it there?? I'm afraid to get her checked for one now in case they call her to update the info, and she says no or makes out I've stolen her or something
 Honestly, I'm praying she doesn't have one and that once I leave exroommate just drops it and carries on with her miserable life.
 

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I highly doubt this person really wants this cat back or really cares for the cat. Sounds like she is just trying to cause you trouble and stress and succeeding. I also doubt, since she got the cat free from the newspaper, that she had a microchip implanted, etc. I would have your vet check - they can do that for free - and then have a chip implanted in the cat under your name along with a rabies vaccine in your name. Good luck with your move and in your new home with your dear kitty. :vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes:
 
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If the OP has the cat scanned and there is a chip in the ex-roomate's name, will she be able to change it to her name? Without them contacting the ex-roomate first?
 

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Thanks so much for all the replies! It's nice to feel supported, this is turning into so much more of a hassle than it ever needed to be! Do I need the microchip updated (if she has one) to take her out of state? I'm thinking no, cause I don't think airport people care that much... but what about when I go to register her at a new vet in my new state? I can't update it there?? I'm afraid to get her checked for one now in case they call her to update the info, and she says no or makes out I've stolen her or something :confused:  Honestly, I'm praying she doesn't have one and that once I leave exroommate just drops it and carries on with her miserable life.

If the OP has the cat scanned and there is a chip in the ex-roomate's name, will she be able to change it to her name? Without them contacting the ex-roomate first?
When I was taking care of my niece's cat I had him microchipped and the vet registered the chip under my name. My sister (niece's mom) took the cat back home with her, to a different state. When she tried to change the name and address on the chip, the company (Home Again) called me to make sure it was a legitimate change.

You should have kitty scanned for a microchip, just for your own peace of mind, but I would wait until you get to your new home. Explain to the new vet how you got the cat. Most vets will be more concerned with the health and safety of an animal and not try to return it to an abusive owner. In any case, I think you're in a strong position with the receipts from vet care and cat supplies.

Good luck in your new home with your kitty.
 

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If the cat is already microchipped and you don't try to change the info there shouldn't be any problem. Just tell the new vet that the cat changed homes through a newspaper ad and you never asked whether she was already chipped, so you'd like to have her scanned for one.
 
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Another option is to go ahead and microchip the cat - regardless of whether there is another microchip in there are not - that way your claim is strengthened even more.   Also there are multiple makers of microchips - HomeAgain is the biggest but there are others.  Yes take the cat and RUN!
 
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I don't think she wants the cat either, I think she doing it out of spite and probably gets a kick out of traumatising you. Take the cat to a shelter and say you got the cat through an ad page as the owner was moving/couldn't look after her, but you would like to get the cat chipped but want to see if it is already, and then explain if so you can contact the previous owner so they can change the details...if it has one then call the old vets and ( I cannot believe I am encouraging this ) pretend to be her and change the details and say you are giving it to a friend (ie: your name), if not then just get her done in your name. Sorry, I am an honest person really!! but from what you have told me this woman can not have this cat back!! She is lucky to have you x
 

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I don't think she wants the cat either, I think she doing it out of spite and probably gets a kick out of traumatising you. Take the cat to a shelter and say you got the cat through an ad page as the owner was moving/couldn't look after her, but you would like to get the cat chipped but want to see if it is already, and then explain if so you can contact the previous owner so they can change the details...if it has one then call the old vets and ( I cannot believe I am encouraging this ) pretend to be her and change the details and say you are giving it to a friend (ie: your name), if not then just get her done in your name. Sorry, I am an honest person really!! but from what you have told me this woman can not have this cat back!! She is lucky to have you x
The problem with that is they would call the numbers (old roommate's) listed when the cat was registered to confirm the change.  I would not be opposed to taking such action given the circumstances, but she probably wouldn't be able to get a hold of old roommate's phone.  After all, they are legitimately trying to keep someone from stealing another person's pet.  If one of my cats got lost and someone wanted to keep it I would appreciate the company calling my numbers before changing the info over to someone else's name.  That said, I highly doubt that this kitty was microchipped!

I do think that people are right in saying that she is only interested in causing trouble, not in reclaiming "her" cat.  The problem is the more you interact with her, the more likely it is that she'll cause a mess of trouble!
 
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I highly doubt this person really wants this cat back or really cares for the cat. Sounds like she is just trying to cause you trouble and stress and succeeding. I also doubt, since she got the cat free from the newspaper, that she had a microchip implanted, etc. I would have your vet check - they can do that for free - and then have a chip implanted in the cat under your name along with a rabies vaccine in your name. Good luck with your move and in your new home with your dear kitty. :vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes:
^^ this. The room mate probably never even heard of microchipping. If she had, I doubt she would have it done since she is in the habit of dumping cats, and could be arrested for it if a dumped cat came back to her via chip.

You've hidden kitty, and are moving before she will be aware of it. Once you and kitty are gone, she'll forget about you, and the cat and find someone else to harass. All the luck in the world to you and your beloved precious little girl. Keep us posted on how the moving goes.
 
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Well, I guess things are working out after all!! The more I think about it, the more I don't think she's chipped, because she had an id tag on her collar and I vaguelyyy remember asking if she was chipped when she first moved the cat in. I don't remember her answer, which is why I've been so paranoid, but I just realized she changed her number a while ago so it likely wouldn't have been updated anyways! She changed it while the cat was mine, and I don't think she would've updated it since the cat was no longer hers at the time, and she didn't really update her number anywhere other than texting the new one to her friends. So I think even if she is chipped, my roommate would be unreachable since her number (and soon address) will have totally changed. AND: Today I found out (from lurking facebook) that she's going on vacation with her friend, before I even leave! Which (since I gave her a fake move out date just in case she trails me to the airport or something), means she's actually leaving BEFORE I am! (she just doesn't know it) So I think with her trip, she's focused on that and won't even remember she's supposed to be wrecking my life. Like let's face it, she never cared about this poor kitty and since she's at another safe location anyways, roommate's gonna leave for her trip, and I'm gonna move off into the sunset with MY cat and all will be well
 
 
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