pregnant female siamese

anna27 said:

I didn't know that Tabbys could have leopard type spots on their sides and stomach? I know he isn't Pure Bengal... but he has all the typical personality traits of a Bengal... In anycase, regardless of what exact breed he is, I still love him lots! I don't know the exact line of Siamese the mother is, But, we have a friend that breeds them and she said that our Chloe looks like a seal point Siamese... but we are not positive on that...

Also, what is a mentor? I have never heard that term on here?

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Many tabbies have spotted tummies, the tabby pattern also comes in 4 patterns. Ticked, mackerel, spotted and classic/blotched
I'm not sure why you'd call him a Bengal when you know he isn't

You mentioned breeds of cats, so I assumed you are a breeder who would have a mentor and the advice of whoever sold you your cats. Now I see this thread has been mixed with another and your cats are just moggies not pedigrees.

With my girls the meowing is followed by labour within an hour. The actual birth itself takes several hours, rarely does another arrive 24 hours later. If she's pushing with no progress after an hour emergency care is needed

She should have had them by now, likely they'll all be brown tabbies with or without white unless the male carries for colourpoint or they both carry dilute.

How is it going?

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I don't know the exact line of Siamese the mother is, But, we have a friend that breeds them and she said that our Chloe looks like a seal point Siamese... but we are not positive on that...

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So really calling her a Siamese is stretching it rather...  Still hope all goes well and she is spayed as soon as your vet will do so.

How is it going??

As said, if she has a long unfruitful labor, you must contact a vet, and be prepared to rush her in.

But if she is resting comfortably, seems not stressed etc,perhaps after delivering one kitten, you must observe but can await.  they can deliver several hours apart, even days apart.

As long they feel good and are contend.

Long Unfruitful labor tiring her = vet.

Good luck!

Momma Kitty just had her first kitten! It is orange black and white! soooo cute!!! popped out, she cleaned it off and it immediately started eating lol.... She is having some difficulty delivering the afterbirth stuff, but its slowly coming out... :-) 9:35am 1-17-13 :-)

Are you sure your boy is the papa? Did she ever get outside? LOL. I'm not sure a brown tabby and a dark pointed cat can make a tortie. . .I think one of the parents needs to be red. The genetics experts will help on that, I'm sure.

How cute! Post pics when you can!

You do need to make sure she passes all the afterbirths, if one stays in it'll cause an infection. So keep an eye on that.

does anyone know how long it takes for the kittens to be able to completely latch on to momma's nipples? she's a little preoccupied at the moment... he ate for a minute but then she moved lol... now he's up against her just crying... so cute! but sad lol

As said tortie cannot be produced by a seal point and brown tabby, so he's not the father. She's been allowed outside at some point

My kittens all latch on right away, if they cry the girl should settle them

If she moved to have another one be sure to keep current kittens out the way of being squashed but near enough that they don't cry and stress her out. I use a covered hot water bottle on my lap to keep them warm and happy

UPDATE on momma kitty... she is finally done delivering at 8pm... almost 12 hours of kitten birthing! she's had a very long day... she had two this morning as you all know... then she had 3 while I was at work (roommate was home and checked on her frequently)... then not even 15 minutes after I got home from work she had two more... She is doing so well! I moved her litter box and food and water in the bedroom so that they would be close to her... She is curled up feeding the babies right now :-) NOW, my question is, do cats tend to have problems feeding a litter of 7? it seems as though they are always fighting for a nipple... is this normal? I am just concerned and want the babies to get as much to eat as possible and be healthy :-)

Poor girl sounds like she was stressed and delayed labour

7 is no issue, milk bar squabbles are normal. Weigh them everyday at the same time (as you would for any litter size), it's the easiest way to tell if there is a problem and hand feeding needed

If you don't have a set of digital scales that weigh in grams now is the time to get one.  Here in the UK they are easy to find and not expensive, especially not compared to the mountains of cat food and litter you will need over the next 13 weeks.

Even if you normally use Imperial units, grams are far easier for this as they avoid decimal points.  Most days each kitten should put on at least 10 g.

And with 7 kittens to feed, mum will eat a massive amount of food.  Let her eat as much as she wants, feed her the best quality you can.

Also contact your vet about worming mother and kittens and make sure you don't have any fleas in the house.

Agree it's best to weigh in grams, while most of the world is on the metric system anyway, it makes more sense to weigh in whole numbers rather than decimal points

10gm is minimum weight gain, you should see 15-20gm each day.
A slow day here and there is no issue, but 2 in a row is a concern

My girls eat 4-5 times per day while raising their kittens, once kittens are eating they're on the same schedule so yes, a lot of food gets consumed.

Have you figured out who the red cat is who sired the litter? If owned hopefully can be neutered or if stray tnr'd

She has not been outside since the beginning of the summer... so there is no possibility of any other cat being the father... and Jasper does have orange coloring on his stomach and inner legs... all 7 kittens are doing wonderfully! I do find it odd that they are all different colorings and patterns though... but as long as theyre healthy and growing as they should be I will not complain! what time frame is recommended as far as letting them leave to new homes? 10 or 12 weeks? I know I could ask my vet all these questions but I guess I just like you all so much! :-)... plus it is midnight, I am home with the flu, and I just thought I would ask while it was on my mind :-) thanks everyone!

The orange on his stomach and legs would just be normal brown tabby shadings, torties have colour on their face and body, along with most of them being female. Brown tabby goes from burnt orange through to black.

Perhaps you're mistaken about the kitten being a tortie, since genetics only work in certain ways. 

Kittens should be kept for 12 weeks, that allows for proper socialisation and all vet work to be done (2 x vaccination, microchip and neutering)

thanks... yeah, I know nothing about breeds... guess i'm just stupid or atleast that is how I feel... yes, they will be getting their shots and "fixed" before they are rehomed... If anyone wants to see pics, I have been trying to post them on my profile...

Just thought I would get something off of my chest... I feel as though I am being attacked for calling the mom cat a Siamese.... that is just what the vet called her... I AM NOT A BREEDER... so please stop acting like I should know all of this because I don't... I love this site, but some of you are making me feel really dumb... i'm not trying to be disrespectful... just saying how I feel... I will still call my momma cat a Siamese because that is what she looks like... also, I don't believe I ever called the kittens a tortie at all... and maybe I shouldn't have used specific coloring names... again, I am extremely inexperienced and I AM NOT A BREEDER... thanks... 

10 to 12 weeks is the average time frame.
It gives them enough time to learn how to be nice kittens and know their manners. :nod:
I believe they are also old enough to be fixed by that time (I could be wrong..) but it's always nice to have them done before they leave for new homes, so the new owners don't end up with 'oopsie' babies as well. :lol3:

anna27 said:

... also, I don't believe I ever called the kittens a tortie at all... . 

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You said the kitten was red, black and white. That's tortie 

You only get reds and torties by having a red or tortie parent. 

Has nothing to do with calling the pointed domestic a Siamese.

I'm guessing as the father doesn't appear to only be the brown tabby boy that you've got a lovely rainbow litter of reds, blacks, whites and torties?  they can also mate with more than one male so perhaps you've got some brown tabby with or without white as well. 

Kittens can be fixed from 8 weeks, so long as they weigh 2lbs/1kg. I prefer to do it at 10 weeks, inbetween the vaccination schedule of 8 & 12 weeks to spread out the stresses.

anna27 said:

Just thought I would get something off of my chest... I feel as though I am being attacked for calling the mom cat a Siamese.... that is just what the vet called her... I AM NOT A BREEDER... so please stop acting like I should know all of this because I don't... I love this site, but some of you are making me feel really dumb... i'm not trying to be disrespectful... just saying how I feel... I will still call my momma cat a Siamese because that is what she looks like... also, I don't believe I ever called the kittens a tortie at all... and maybe I shouldn't have used specific coloring names... again, I am extremely inexperienced and I AM NOT A BREEDER... thanks... 

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Yeah, this become a little awkward. Sorry!

I think part of the misunderstanding was, your first post was in the Breeder Forum, as I remember it.

Had you began directly in the pregnant forum, the shelling would be much lesser.  It would also dawn earlier your mom is a siamese-colored, not necessarily pure bred Siamese. Not to speaking about the father. 

Although we can never know. It does happens now and then even real breeders have questions in the Preg forum.

Im glad you overcome that problem, and do keep continue to be our fellow Forumite!

Good luck!

anna27 said:

Just thought I would get something off of my chest... I feel as though I am being attacked for calling the mom cat a Siamese.... that is just what the vet called her... I AM NOT A BREEDER... so please stop acting like I should know all of this because I don't... I love this site, but some of you are making me feel really dumb... i'm not trying to be disrespectful... just saying how I feel... I will still call my momma cat a Siamese because that is what she looks like... also, I don't believe I ever called the kittens a tortie at all... and maybe I shouldn't have used specific coloring names... again, I am extremely inexperienced and I AM NOT A BREEDER... thanks... 

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I'm sorry you were insulted. Sometimes we "cat fanciers" can be a bit over zealous.

If you get a second would you mind posting some pics,of the kittens? We love kittens.