Any ideas? Cat in pain

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I just took Curtis to the vet. So that's done!

Curtis is a young male, red tabby and white, 1 year 9 months old. Neutered at 6 months, FVCRP and rabies vaccines at that time. No vaccines since. Indoors only, eats canned Friskies and some raw, de-wormed regularly. He's been back and forth to my house---his first owner got him at 2 months, around 4-5 months he came to live with me, back to her at 8-9 months, back here 3 months ago. I don't know what his life/diet/anything was like at her house. There's the background.

So he's in pain. He started limping a couple weeks ago, it looked like his front legs but was hard to pin down the exact location of the pain. Now he's walking painfully on all legs, can't take more than a couple steps before lying down again. Basically he's walking like an elderly cat who has arthritis. Well, he CAN walk and jump, because I found him on the upstairs cat tree this morning, which means he climbed the stairs, jumped over the baby gate, and jumped onto the cat tree, but he doesn't want to, because it causes obvious pain. He's eating, drinking, using the litterbox, etc. normally. He tries to play but stops because it hurts. So he seems to feel OK except for the pain; he doesn't seem to feel sick.

The vet is stumped. He felt Curtis all over, he thinks the pain is stemming from the lumbar-sacral area or the hips. The only other weird thing he found was that his lower back leg muscles are hard and round. He says he's never seen that, but it may be from overcompensating for the pain (cat walks funny, muscle tightens up, etc.). The vet is going to call some specialists and see what they recommend. So right now I'm waiting for him to call me back.

So, any ideas I can suggest to the vet? Anyone else ever dealt with a similar situation?
 

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http://www.2ndchance.info/limping.htm

This stood out:

Diseases of pets caused by organisms that are transferred through blood-sucking parasites (usually ticks) seem to be becoming more common. The first sign of these diseases is sometimes lamenesses. That is because a number of these organisms trigger a process of joint inflammation known as polyarthritis (polyarthritis has other causes as well).

These tick and parasite-borne diseases include Lyme disease, Erlichia, Babesia, Bartonella and Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever.
My understanding is that lyme in cats is rare. But I've had it three times (or never got rid of it), and it does make joints ache severely.

Hope you and the vet are able to figure this out. :vibes: :vibes: :vibes:
 
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We don't have Lyme in this part of the state. I suppose anything is possible but all the doctors say that nobody has contracted it here. But the others may be a higher possibility. I'll run that by him, see if the tick-borne disease SNAP tests work on cats.

I read somewhere that a strain of Calicivirus can cause acute-onset arthritis. So I've been giving his large doses of Lysine just in case. It seemed to help a little at first but that may have been my imagination.
 

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Take a look at the link - there's a long list of things it could be, just not sure if anything else (other than maybe an autoimmune disorder or back issue - which theoretically would show up on x-ray) makes sense. I did find it interesting that the article mentioned that front leg pain usually results in the cat being less willing to move around then when it's the back legs.

Interesting on the Calicivirus. I'm only familiar with the "limping kitten" syndrome caused by Calici, but that doesn't seem to affect all the legs.

If it is arthritis, 500mg of krill oil may really help. It does for me (and I don't have arthritis outside of the joint pain/inflammation from Lyme - which is how I know I'm having a flare or another round) and Flowerbelle.
 

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Cat Fancy, January 2013, "Ask the Vet" has an answer to a similiar problem.
 
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Cat Fancy, January 2013, "Ask the Vet" has an answer to a similiar problem.
What did they say? I don't subscribe to Cat Fancy anymore. . .maybe the library has it, I'll have to check.

My vet basically said he has no idea and recommended taking him to the vet he consults with :/. I don't think I'll go to the vet he recommended, I'll go to my exotics vet since I already know him and I know he has a full hospital with proper diagnostic equipment. But I can't get an appointment until after Christmas. I'm leaning towards it being some kind of autoimmune thing, because he seems slightly better today, it sort of comes and goes.
 

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Question:  My 5 month old cat has paralysis in her hind legs.  She can only walk a couple of steps.  She now seems to be having trouble with her front paws..she drags herself to get around the house.  She is still eating and show no signs of being sick otherwise.  Indoor cat, no injury.

Answer:  Knuckling when she walks and dragging herself around the house certainly does sound like a neurologic disorder.  There are many potential causes including: a congenital disorder, sucha as myasthenia gravis, which would be rare; infectious disorders, such as toxoplasmosis and feline infectious peritonitis; and trauma.  You neeed to see a board-certified veterinary neurologist as soon as possible.  Your cat likely needs advanced diagnostics, such as a spinal tap, a myelogram or an MRI.  Your cat should also be tested for infectious disorders, such as FIP, feline leukemia virus, feline immunodeficienty virus and toxplasmosis.  If seeing a specialist is cost-prohibitive, your vet should consider treating with antibiotics that are known to achieve high levels in the central nervous system.  If that doesn't cause any improvement and additional tests are too costly to run, a trial course of steroid may be your only option.  They are often helpful for treating inflammatory conditions of the nervous system, but would be reluctant to use them in a cat this young (this one is 5 months old) without a diagnosis, unless there is no other choice.
 
 
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Thank you for typing all that out! :D. I don't think this is the same kind of situation . . .he's not paralyzed at all, not dragging any parts. His mobility is fine---like I said, I found him on the cat tree yesterday, and right now he's waiting for dinner on top of the kitchen counter. He just seems to have pain in all his joints. Mysterious ouchiness, poor guy.
 
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No problem, hope you can get to the root of the problem!  Merry Christmas!
 
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Update: no update. Nothing has changed; he's not better and he's not worse. The vet has determined that the lumps are swollen, painful lymph nodes. I haven't been able to get up to a different vet so my vet is trying a 10-day round of amoxicillin in case it's an infection, but no improvement so far. He does not think bloodwork would be useful, but I might insist if there's no breakthroughs soon.

The possibility of lymphoma has been discussed :(. But I don't think it is. From what I can find, cancerous lymph nodes aren't usually painful. I just felt his sister and she has the same lumps in the same places, but she's not limping. None of the other cats have those lumps, so I wonder if the 2 of them were exposed to something at their old house. Mold? Some kind of chemical? Grrr.

From what I can find online, bartonella infection can cause swollen lymph nodes and general muscle soreness. Anyone else think this sounds feasible? any other ideas? Just anything to discuss with the vet. I'll tell my vet about Callie (his sister) also having the lumps on Wednesday. If they both have it it's probably not lymphoma, I'd guess.
 

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Honestly, it can't hurt to check for Bartonella - don't know why he wouldn't do that before the round of amoxicillin, quite frankly. And if they both have swollen lymph nodes, I'm agreeing - probably not lymphoma. And you'd think he'd want bloodwork to check - I mean he can at least run a hematocrit to see if your kitty is anemic. :dk: THAT in and of itself can cause pain.

Any pink on those kitties? Gums? Paw pads? Nose? It can be tough in winter, because kitties will vasoconstrict to conserve heat (or something like that). But does the pink look whitish? Whiter than the pink on your other cats?
 
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No, his nose is pink, same as usual. It changes depending on actiivity but he doesn't seem pale at all. Her nose is black so I can't tell but her gums have good color.

Is checking for bartonella fairly common? Can't say I've heard much about it. I was just Googling around.

I like old farm vets for lots of reasons, but mystery diagnoses aren't their thing :tongue2:.
 
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