Please help... I don't know what's going on with Rudy :(

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I'm sorry if this post seems to be all over the place. I'm really upset right now and I'm typing whatever comes to my head.

A year ago, my mom had a pretty major surgery. The night before the surgery, our 12 year old cat Abby went paralyzed in her back legs. She wouldn't move at all and my mom took her to the vet where they found a tumor on her spine and had to put her down. Ever since then, her other cat Rudy hasn't been the same. Rudy is 11 now, and has always been a big healthy guy (he was a 15 pound Maine Coon mix). He always hated Abby and they never got along, but after she died he started getting sick. He's down to 9.5 pounds and is extremely skinny for his size now. He used to be a total pig, to the point where my mom had to hide food from him just so Abby could get enough to eat, but now he refuses to eat. He was put on anxiety medicine, but it didn't do much so just recently he was put on an antihistamine. He's had allergy problems his whole life (chin acne, scratching, etc), but the scratching got much worse in the past year to the point where he makes his ears bleed.

My mom is having surgery again tomorrow, this time on her hip. It's another major one and she'll be out of work for at least 2 months and on crutches for 4-6 months. She went into the bathroom tonight and found Rudy sitting on the bath mat with his feet tucked under his body. She called him name but he refused to get up, and then she realized his back legs were paralyzed (this is the SAME thing that happened to Abby the night they put her down). They took him to the emergency vet and the woman found nothing wrong with him. He eventually started walking again in the office and he went home. Right now he's sitting under the kitchen table and he's acting really agitated - growling and huffing at my mom. 

Do you think Rudy's feeding off of my mom's stress about the surgery? Or is there something that the vet missed? Could he have an unknown tumor like Abby had? Maybe it's vertigo? My mom mentioned he stopped playing with his da bird toy and won't look up. The vet tested him for neurological problems and he didn't have any. She said he appeared completely healthy, and he's been to the vet 4 times in the past few months and had plenty of testing done.

I live 2.5 hours away and I'm freaking out right now. Rudy is MY cat. I got him for Christmas when I was 11 and he's my baby. He stayed with my parents when I moved to college. My mind is racing right now. I wasn't there when Abby was put down, and now I'm terrified I won't get to say goodbye to Rudy either.

Also another weird thing, the second my mom noticed something was wrong with Rudy, the picture of Abby on the countertop next to him jumped and fell to the ground even though nothing had touched it. My mom swears Abby is haunting the place.
 

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I have no doubt that dogs and cats can sense stress and other emotions that we emit. Have you seen Rudy or is the information you are getting from your Mom? Either way, the loss of 5 lbs is a concern and can be due to any number of causes. The growling can be a symptom that he just does not feel good. Did the Vet run any blood work? Is there a way you can take Rudy back while your mom is recuperating? 
 
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He's gotten a ton of blood work done in the past few months and they have found nothing out of the ordinary. The vet was thinking it may be a thyroid problem, but that checked out as well. I visit my parents once a month or so, and each time I see Rudy, he looks sicker. I am going to visit this weekend so I'll be able to see if there are any more changes. A couple months ago, my parents went out of town for a week and I watched Rudy at my apartment. The change was really stressful on him and I don't think we could put him through that again. Rudy loves my mom, too, so I don't think she would want him gone. He's become extremely high maintenance with his medicine and weird eating habits, and I'm in my last semester of college and have so much to do right now so I couldn't take him anyway. My dad will be taking care of him, which won't be much different because he already helps take care of him anyways.
 

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Did the thyroid tests include free T4 or was just total T4 done?  My vets told me that the 'normal' range for total T4 goes down as the cat gets older, so you can end up with a cat like mine was - losing weight, high end of 'normal' for total T4, but clearly hyperthyroid when the free T4 was tested.
 

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If he is loosing weight and his thyroid is fine, look into the pancreas.

My cat, Arthur, is a HT kitty.  He also has pancreatic insufficiency.  The nutrients from his food are going right through him and not being absorbed by his body.  Hence, the wt. loss.  I sprinkle Viocase powder on his food.  It pre digests his food as his pancreas does not. 

That is just a thought to ask your vet about.
 
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Thanks for the replies. I'm not sure exactly what tests have been done, but I'll ask my mom when she's feeling better. I'm not sure if they have looked at the pancreas, but I know that he doesn't have diabetes. Part of the reason why he is losing weight is because he isn't eating as much, but even then, I don't think that's enough to make him lose 5 pounds. He still eats wet food twice a day (not as much as he used to, he probably finishes half a can a day) but he hardly touches his dry food anymore. I was thinking it may be a problem with his teeth but the vet said they were fine.
 

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Check the gall bladdar numbers also.  Arthur is right now having those probs.  He isn't eating and has dropped wt.  Depending on what his tests come back as, we will start him on meds for that....sigh.  They take more meds than my 90 year old grandmother did!

Good luck.
 

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Thanks for the replies. I'm not sure exactly what tests have been done, but I'll ask my mom when she's feeling better.
Not sure on the timeline for your mom feeling better, but if there is something wrong, a few days can be life or death for a cat.  That is IF something is wrong.

9.5 lbs does seem pretty light for a male maine coon.

It sounds like the vet has checked all the major things, hopefully, some of the other things suggested can be checked.  Just in case.
 
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He's been sick for about a year now and the vet has checked him many times. She recommended just to keep an eye out on him and keep giving him antihistamines. If anything does come up, my dad will take him to the vet. I will also be visiting this weekend to check up on him.
 
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He didn't move all night. My mom held him throughout the night and my dad brought him into the emergency vet right after my mom's surgery this morning. He was there for house. They gave him potassium, took xrays, gave him steroids, fluids, pain medicine, and some high calorie liquid. She took a video and sent it to a few vets and they don't have a clue either. He is back home and resting. He's walking a little bit. My dad will be taking him back to the vet tomorrow morning. The vets have no idea and I'm so upset right now.
 

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First of all, I am so sorry about Rudy.  I know it's awful for you not being able to be there to help him.  It sounds like your mom is doing everything she can for him. 

I had a cat that had kidney failure and he had some of those symptoms.  Growling, sitting in that "sick cat" position, he wouldn't even let me pick him up, and he wouldn't walk.  I don't know it if was from pain or what. 

It seems a big mystery with Rudy.  I hope he's not still mourning the loss of his friend.  Cats are really so sensitive aren't they?  That's one reason why we love them so much.

I really don't have much to add because it's a mystery to me too.  I just pray that Rudy gets better and things straighten out for him.  I pray for your Mom too......things are really difficult for all of you right now.  Life can be so hard.

(I lost my Mom about a month ago and then it seems like all my cats started getting sick.  Different things for each cat.....not one thing being passed around.  I've spent a fortune.  Then I took in a little stray kitty to foster......he got sick too.)

Bless you and Rudy.......Beth
 

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He didn't move all night. My mom held him throughout the night and my dad brought him into the emergency vet right after my mom's surgery this morning. He was there for house. They gave him potassium, took xrays, gave him steroids, fluids, pain medicine, and some high calorie liquid. She took a video and sent it to a few vets and they don't have a clue either. He is back home and resting. He's walking a little bit. My dad will be taking him back to the vet tomorrow morning. The vets have no idea and I'm so upset right now.
That's so frustrating that they can't figure out what's going on. I agree with farleyv. Either a sonogram, or an ultrasound. (same thing????)  I'm surprised they didn't do one of them, sense they haven't been able to figure it out. It would give more in-site.

I will pray that whatever it is, will be reveled, so he can be treated specifically. Continued vibes as well!!
 

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First of all, I'm so sorry - and so sorry about the timing. :hugs: And :vibes: :vibes: :vibes: for your mom!!!!!!!!!! :heart2:

Most internal problems - gall bladder, pancreas, liver, kidneys, thyroid - would turn up on a blood test. Let's assume that the detailed blood work has already been done, but you'll have to confirm that.

I hate to say it - but the next most likely option - and one that doesn't usually turn up in blood work - is cancer. :( Do you know if the tumor in your Abby was malignant? What imaging has been done? Given the dramatic weight loss - has anyone suggested ultrasounds or endoscopy? Because it seems to me these are the logical next steps - looking for stuff that can't be seen in blood work.

OR... if the decision would be that if it is cancer, palliative care would be provided, then rather than spend the money on diagnostics (which can be expensive!!), treat the symptoms: steroids are usually used, an anti-nausea medication (and that meatloaf, not moving is a big sign of nausea, IMO) can really help, and has no one suggested an appetite stimulant through all of this? No assist feeding recommended? Would he fight a syringe? When we got to that point with Lazlo, he actually LIKED being syringe fed. He was hungry, but nauseous. The pred helped him feel better, the cerenia used off-label (1/4 tablet per day - Laz weighed 9 pounds at the time) helped control the nausea (as did one 10mg pepcid a/c each night) - and an appetite stimulant (we used mirtazipine) made him want to eat a little food about every 30 minutes. It took a couple of months, but at 9 pounds he was skin and bones, and despite the chemotherapy, these supporting meds just helped him feel better and better, and he went back up to 13 pounds (a good weight for him).

So whatever's going on... I'd be looking to at least treat his symptoms at this point! :hugs: :rub: :vibes: :vibes: :vibes:
 
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Thanks so much everyone. My dad is at the vet with him again right now. He was drugged up last night on steroids, pain medication, and some other stuff. He slept under the covers with my mom all night but he peed himself and my dad had to change the sheets. 
 I will ask my mom about some of the tests you all mentioned later today when she wakes up. We just switched veterinarians, from a place down the street to a feline specialist. She has very good reviews and seems genuinely concerned about Rudy. We are hoping the new vet will be able to find out what is wrong, because the old vet wasn't very helpful. 
 

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Thanks so much everyone. My dad is at the vet with him again right now. He was drugged up last night on steroids, pain medication, and some other stuff. He slept under the covers with my mom all night but he peed himself and my dad had to change the sheets. 
 I will ask my mom about some of the tests you all mentioned later today when she wakes up. We just switched veterinarians, from a place down the street to a feline specialist. She has very good reviews and seems genuinely concerned about Rudy. We are hoping the new vet will be able to find out what is wrong, because the old vet wasn't very helpful. 
That's great news about a new vet. I think what Laurie is saying is true too. I think the new vet will be able to find what is going on.
 

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:hugs: :hugs: I'm so glad your dad found a new vet that sounds wonderful! While figuring out what needs to be done, I would ask her ASAP about supporting care.... and I would seriously consider assist-feeding him at a minimum. :heart2:
 
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They evaluated him at the vet all day today. He didn't move, didn't use the bathroom, and was in a lot of pain. They had to put him down. I can't even think right now. They think it was meningitis.
 
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