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Cat pooping in bathtub. I can't think of anything else to do.

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I have tried putting water in the tub. Kitty poops beside the tub. Put the litter box in the tub kitty poops on the other side of the tub. Two litter boxes kitty poops between them. Vet says nothing is wrong. I tried putting it's food bowl in the tub, he still pooped in the tub.

My husband is practically foaming at the mouth and I am completely at a loss for what to do????????

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What kind of cat litter do you use? Have you ever tried Dr. Elsey's Cat Attract?

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How about a litter box with no litter in it? Seems like he doesn't like the litter when he poops....
post #4 of 26
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What kind of cat litter do you use? Have you ever tried Dr. Elsey's Cat Attract?


So far I have tried pine litter, what they were using at the shelter and scoop away also used at the shelter. I was thinking of trying a new litter but was unsure if that would bother him more. He goes in the litter box but at least once a night it is always at night and in the hall way bathroom he goes and poops in the tub.

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How about a litter box with no litter in it? Seems like he doesn't like the litter when he poops....


He uses the litter boxes with litter in them this is a once a day thing. Maybe he is marking but with poop instead of pee since he is neutered??????

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He uses the litter boxes with litter in them this is a once a day thing. Maybe he is marking but with poop instead of pee since he is neutered??????

Are you saying he poops more than once a day? Unless this is a young kitten, that is not normal. A cat should be pooping every 24-36 hours.

I suggested the litter box with no litter, since he appears to dislike pooping in litter. But if he is pooping in the litter once a day and pooping outside of the litter once a day, something is wrong with him physically.

It could be as simple as a diet change.

What are you feeding them?
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Are you saying he poops more than once a day? Unless this is a young kitten, that is not normal. A cat should be pooping every 24-36 hours.
I suggested the litter box with no litter, since he appears to dislike pooping in litter. But if he is pooping in the litter once a day and pooping outside of the litter once a day, something is wrong with him physically.
It could be as simple as a diet change.
What are you feeding them?


They get a cup each of dry food a day and they both poop more than once a day. (I'd say they both poop about 3 times a day, they are both about 6-7 months old) The vet I saw didn't seem concerned though when I said they both eat and poop all the time? I have a free bag of food from their first vet visit they are eating it is called ivet kitten formula. I tried giving them some wet food but it made their poop really soft and smelly. I though it was supposed to be kind of not hard but not come out in little piles either. They do both have ear mites but they got Advantage-multi at the vet for that.

post #8 of 26
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Oh I am trying deeper litter tonight too. They have really deep boxes and about 3 1/2 inches of litter so upped it an inch to see if that helps?

post #9 of 26

close the bathroom door? i know this sounds silly and obvious but its the only way to get mine to not poo or pee in bathtub

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close the bathroom door? i know this sounds silly and obvious but its the only way to get mine to not poo or pee in bathtub


I hate to do that though. They practically live in there. Loki loves to curl up and sleep in the sink and Smokey likes to jump up onto the bottom shelf of the medicine cabinet and just hang out. It is a conveinent place to keep there food in a drawer and their toys in another drawer. Sometimes they even leave my bed to go sleep in there early in the AM when the kids are running around getting ready for school and I am up making coffee and getting things ready for the day. :(

post #11 of 26
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I wish I could get in Smokey's head and see figure out why he does it. I hate to punish them for it by banishing them from their hangout.

post #12 of 26
Pine litter was the reason why Lucky started peeing in the living roon rug - she HATED that thing. Changed back to Dr. Elsey's and solved that issue (after a LOT of cleaning with enzyme cleaners - it takes a minute to mess up their habits, and forever to correct it rolleyes.gif)

I a agree that they are pooping too much..... Once a day should be their normal agree.gif
Mu cats poop every 2 days or so, but they eat raw, so they poop less.....
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Pine litter was the reason why Lucky started peeing in the living roon rug - she HATED that thing. Changed back to Dr. Elsey's and solved that issue (after a LOT of cleaning with enzyme cleaners - it takes a minute to mess up their habits, and forever to correct it rolleyes.gif)
I a agree that they are pooping too much..... Once a day should be their normal agree.gif
Mu cats poop every 2 days or so, but they eat raw, so they poop less.....

I wonder why my kittens poop so much? ohwell.gif The vet said it was fine and they are both healthy.  But they both poop a lot about 3 times a day. They eat ivet dry kitten formula from the vets office, it was what the vet sold, they also have some greenies chew things for dental health. They get plenty of water and I give them each 1 cup of food a day 1/2 in the AM and 1/2 in the PM. I had to separate them to eat because Loki tries to take Smokey's food  Kitty%20Food.gifKitty%20Food.gif, so I know neither kitty is getting more than the other one. I just can't bring myself to lock them out of the bathroom so I went to walmart and got some puppy pads. Maybe he will poop on those instead?  I put them in the bathtub where he seems to like to poop.

post #14 of 26
Puppy pads in the bathtub are a good idea, until you can figure out the problem. Or a litter box with no litter in it.

Have they been de-wormed? Often excessive pooping can be caused by a parasite problem.

In addition your kittens are eating a diet that is full of grains and carbohydrates and not enough moisture. They poop a lot because they aren't getting much nutrition from the food. Cats don't really digest grains, they just poop most of them back out again.

Many vets don't seem to know or understand much about nutrition and how the feline digestion works, sad to say.

I recommend you transition them to a canned diet, low in carbohydrates. I think you will be very happy with the results.

Here is a list of wet foods and their carb content:

http://catinfo.org/docs/Food%20Chart%20Public%209-22-12.pdf

The list is part of this website written and maintained by a vet who is a feline nutrition specialist. You may get some help here, too.

http://catinfo.org/
post #15 of 26
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Puppy pads in the bathtub are a good idea, until you can figure out the problem. Or a litter box with no litter in it.
Have they been de-wormed? Often excessive pooping can be caused by a parasite problem.
In addition your kittens are eating a diet that is full of grains and carbohydrates and not enough moisture. They poop a lot because they aren't getting much nutrition from the food. Cats don't really digest grains, they just poop most of them back out again.
Many vets don't seem to know or understand much about nutrition and how the feline digestion works, sad to say.
I recommend you transition them to a canned diet, low in carbohydrates. I think you will be very happy with the results.
Here is a list of wet foods and their carb content:
http://catinfo.org/docs/Food%20Chart%20Public%209-22-12.pdf
The list is part of this website written and maintained by a vet who is a feline nutrition specialist. You may get some help here, too.
http://catinfo.org/


 They have both been dewormed, Smokey had his last vax almost 2 weeks ago and they both got Advantage-Multi for earmites,fleas, and 3 kinds of worms. How many cans of food a day do they need to get? Won't the wet food make their poop runny? Loki has firmer poop but smokey makes little piles of really soft poop. I
'll go check out those links now. Thank you

post #16 of 26
Canned food does not make poop runny, in general. You have to do the transition slowly is all. Starting with just a little bit of canned each day, and increasing the amounts as you go along.

Also, always use a probiotic when changing a cat's diet.

I use a probiotic for all cats all the time, anyway. It's good for them. smile.gif

My Queen Eva had a nutrient absorption problem until I added a probiotic. She was on a high quality canned diet, but was eating enormous amounts, and never gaining any weight, just pooping it all back out again, two or three large poops a day. She had very expensive lab tests done on her poop, and all results were negative. Once I added a daily probiotic she stopped pooping so much and gained a little weight.

So I recommend a low carb canned diet (slow transition) and a probiotic for your boys. smile.gif

PS getting them on canned now will prevent several possible health issues, especially urinary tract diseases and blockages.
post #17 of 26
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Canned food does not make poop runny, in general. You have to do the transition slowly is all. Starting with just a little bit of canned each day, and increasing the amounts as you go along.
Also, always use a probiotic when changing a cat's diet.
I use a probiotic for all cats all the time, anyway. It's good for them. smile.gif
My Queen Eva had a nutrient absorption problem until I added a probiotic. She was on a high quality canned diet, but was eating enormous amounts, and never gaining any weight, just pooping it all back out again, two or three large poops a day. She had very expensive lab tests done on her poop, and all results were negative. Once I added a daily probiotic she stopped pooping so much and gained a little weight.
So I recommend a low carb canned diet (slow transition) and a probiotic for your boys. smile.gif
PS getting them on canned now will prevent several possible health issues, especially urinary tract diseases and blockages.

 Where can I get a probiotic? petsmart?    How many cans of food do they need to eat at one time? They each get one cup of dried food a day and the cans look so small. I have two cans of friskies the shelter gave me each can is only 5.5oz  one is Turkey & Giblets classic paté and the other is Liver & Chicken classic paté.

post #18 of 26
As growing kittens they may need up to 10 ounces a day (some need less than that by the time they are the age of yours, but not always).

Once they reach their adult weight, in general a cat will need about one 5.5 ounce can a day, depending on weight and activity level and brand of cat food.

Many members here recommend this probiotic:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00028P5PU/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00

I have not used it (yet), but it would be less expensive than the one I am currently using which is Proviable DC, a probiotic made specifically for animals. I've been using the ProViable DC for almost 2 years and am very happy with it, but because the above costs so much less, I have ordered it to try for my cats.

If cost is a concern, you could use it mainly for the transition (one bottle of the Natural factors would last you 3 months for 2 cats), then taper off and see how they do without it, or given only two or three times a week even.
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As growing kittens they may need up to 10 ounces a day (some need less than that by the time they are the age of yours, but not always).
Once they reach their adult weight, in general a cat will need about one 5.5 ounce can a day, depending on weight and activity level and brand of cat food.
Many members here recommend this probiotic:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00028P5PU/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
I have not used it (yet), but it would be less expensive than the one I am currently using which is Proviable DC, a probiotic made specifically for animals. I've been using the ProViable DC for almost 2 years and am very happy with it, but because the above costs so much less, I have ordered it to try for my cats.
If cost is a concern, you could use it mainly for the transition (one bottle of the Natural factors would last you 3 months for 2 cats), then taper off and see how they do without it, or given only two or three times a week even.


Thank you so much for all your help. I'll look into getting them the probiotic and and transitioning them to wet food. I have to be as budget friendly as possible but my kitties have to be as healthy as possible too.

post #20 of 26

A rule of thumb with kitties is to have 1 litter box per kitty plus 1 more. So, if you have two kitties, you should use 3 litter boxes. Have you tried adding another litter box so you have three?

 

How about a covered litter box? I'm not fond of them, but some kitties do prefer a bit more privacy. Also, the location can play a role. Are the boxes in a private area with nothing to distract or startle them? How close together are the boxes? Maybe try moving them further apart...or closer together. I have found that sometimes even changing the direction a box faces can make a difference.

 

How often do you clean the litter boxes? Kitties are very scent-oriented, so although a totally spotless litter box is pleasing to us, it can cause them to go outside the box just to add their scent so other kitties know they have been there. For example, I scoop my kids' litter boxes daily, but only completely change out litter and wash their boxes once every six months. And even then, I space out the box cleaning so that only one at a time is completely cleaned at a time. E.g. 'W' box is completely cleaned one week, 'X' box is completely cleaned the next week, 'Y' box is completely cleaned the next week, and 'Z' box is completely cleaned the next week. (I have three kitties, so four boxes.)

 

It also might be time for a fecal examination by the vet to see if all parasites/worms are gone.

 

I agree with others about a grain-free canned food (maybe even balanced raw diet if you're up for it smile.gif) and using a probiotic during the transition. On a kibble (dry) food diet, kitties can not drink enough water to make up for the low moisture content of kibble. Dogs and humans have a thirst drive/mechanism, but kitties not so much, so they won't drink enough water to stay hydrated even if you have 10 bowls of water out for them (wee bit of an exaggeration smile.gif). Therefore, they will be in a perpetual state of dehydration which can lead to health issues down the road. Kitties are obligate (true) carnivores and biologically/physiologically built to get the moisture (water) they need from the foods they eat.

 

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A rule of thumb with kitties is to have 1 litter box per kitty plus 1 more. So, if you have two kitties, you should use 3 litter boxes. Have you tried adding another litter box so you have three?

 

How about a covered litter box? I'm not fond of them, but some kitties do prefer a bit more privacy. Also, the location can play a role. Are the boxes in a private area with nothing to distract or startle them? How close together are the boxes? Maybe try moving them further apart...or closer together. I have found that sometimes even changing the direction a box faces can make a difference.

 

How often do you clean the litter boxes? Kitties are very scent-oriented, so although a totally spotless litter box is pleasing to us, it can cause them to go outside the box just to add their scent so other kitties know they have been there. For example, I scoop my kids' litter boxes daily, but only completely change out litter and wash their boxes once every six months. And even then, I space out the box cleaning so that only one at a time is completely cleaned at a time. E.g. 'W' box is completely cleaned one week, 'X' box is completely cleaned the next week, 'Y' box is completely cleaned the next week, and 'Z' box is completely cleaned the next week. (I have three kitties, so four boxes.)

 

It also might be time for a fecal examination by the vet to see if all parasites/worms are gone.

 

I agree with others about a grain-free canned food (maybe even balanced raw diet if you're up for it smile.gif) and using a probiotic during the transition. On a kibble (dry) food diet, kitties can not drink enough water to make up for the low moisture content of kibble. Dogs and humans have a thirst drive/mechanism, but kitties not so much, so they won't drink enough water to stay hydrated even if you have 10 bowls of water out for them (wee bit of an exaggeration smile.gif). Therefore, they will be in a perpetual state of dehydration which can lead to health issues down the road. Kitties are obligate (true) carnivores and biologically/physiologically built to get the moisture (water) they need from the foods they eat.

 

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A covered box in the living room, a regular one in the kitchen and now one in the bathtub along with the doggy pads in the bathtub. Their vet visit was just a week ago would the stuff work that fast? I scoop twice a day but we have only had the kittens for about a month, so I have not done a major cleaning outside a quick soap and water wash when I first got them home from the store before I filled them. They had the pine litter from the shelter but they didn't seem to like that so I got clumping litter and they stopped pooping beside the box and started going in it but Smokey persists in pooping once or twice a day in the bathtub. I have seen him use the box to pee and poop but at least once he just has to do it in the corner of the tub?

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I gave them some of the Friskies Kitty%20Food.gif mixed in with their dry food right after this post and Smokey just now pooped almost straight liquid greenbarf.gif of course he moved the pad out of the way first and then pooped in the bathtub  sigh.gif . I'll have no choice but to feed all dry if just mixing a half a can in with his dry makes him poop liquid. His poops are normally soft but still not liquid.

post #23 of 26
Oh dear, half a can is definitely too much to start with, for dry fed cats. I'm sorry I wasn't more specific. smile.gif Cats do need food changes to be done very very slowly.

A teaspoon of canned, once a day, would be where to start. Not mixed with the dry. Just give them each a teaspoon of canned by itself. A teaspoon a day for a week, and of course the probiotic mixed in. Then the next week, two teaspoons a day, say one in the morning and one at night. The next week three teaspoons. And so on. The probiotic is very important.

Food transitions are never done quickly. They take a long time, and yes, some trial and error. Remember that if friskies doesn't agree with them there are plenty of other choices. And even with friskies, one formula might not work, when another friskies formula will.

It can be done. And it is so so worth it. Many of us have done food transitions with our cats, either from dry to wet or canned to raw, or even dry to raw.

It can be done. A few months of effort now can save you hundreds in vet bills, and so much stress for your cats, in the future. Especially with male cats. Cats are so dehydrated on dry diets, their urine is so concentrated, urinary tract problems are rampant. And the male cat has very narrow urethra. The danger of blockage is very high. In another forum I post in there is a thread on Perenial Urethrostomy that is constantly being updated with new members looking for advice because their male cat has blocked and the vet is advising the PU surgery. All are or were fed dry diets. Most of them, their vets never even ask about diet, except to recommend some "prescription" diet, usually dry.

But, back on topic with the pooping out of the box, I do agree with the member who suggested that another de-worming may need to be done. Often cats blame the litter box for discomfort and so try pooping else where. Anyone, including a cat, who is pooping 3 times a day has got to be experiencing some discomfort.

But hang in there with the canned food, just start with much much less. Wait until you get some probiotic if you want, before starting again.
Edited by otto - 10/25/12 at 7:14pm
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Oh dear, half a can is definitely too much to start with, for dry fed cats. I'm sorry I wasn't more specific. smile.gif Cats do need food changes to be done very very slowly.
A teaspoon of canned, once a day, would be where to start. Not mixed with the dry. Just give them each a teaspoon of canned by itself. A teaspoon a day for a week, and of course the probiotic mixed in. Then the next week, two teaspoons a day, say one in the morning and one at night. The next week three teaspoons. And so on. The probiotic is very important.
Food transitions are never done quickly. They take a long time, and yes, some trial and error. Remember that if friskies doesn't agree with them there are plenty of other choices. And even with friskies, one formula might not work, when another friskies formula will.
It can be done. And it is so so worth it. Many of us have done food transitions with our cats, either from dry to wet or canned to raw, or even dry to raw.
It can be done. A few months of effort now can save you hundreds in vet bills, and so much stress for your cats, in the future. Especially with male cats. Cats are so dehydrated on dry diets, their urine is so concentrated, urinary tract problems are rampant. And the male cat has very narrow urethra. The danger of blockage is very high. In another forum I post in there is a thread on Perenial Urethrostomy that is constantly being updated with new members looking for advice because their male cat has blocked and the vet is advising the PU surgery. All are or were fed dry diets. Most of them, their vets never even ask about diet, except to recommend some "prescription" diet, usually dry.
But, back on topic with the pooping out of the box, I do agree with the member who suggested that another de-worming may need to be done. Often cats blame the litter box for discomfort and so try pooping else where. Anyone, including a cat, who is pooping 3 times a day has got to be experiencing some discomfort.
But hang in there with the canned food, just start with much much less. Wait until you get some probiotic if you want, before starting again.


Oh wow. Yeah I mixed a 5.5oz can with half a cup of dry.  The dewroming was only done a few weeks ago is it safe to do it again so soon? I have not seen any worms but they were shelter kitties so who knows what they might have?

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I know your problem well.  I eventually solved it (mostly) with Dr. Eisley's cat attract litter.

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Oh wow. Yeah I mixed a 5.5oz can with half a cup of dry.  The dewroming was only done a few weeks ago is it safe to do it again so soon? I have not seen any worms but they were shelter kitties so who knows what they might have?

A de-worming, if drontal is used, is usually done twice; 3 weeks apart. This is because the medication only kills adult worms. The second de-worming catches all that have matured since the first round.

If topical profender is used, another round is not necessary because Profender works for 30 days.

Because he pulled the puppy pad out of the way and used the tub again, I am still wondering if an empty box might work. He seems to want to do that extra poop on a hard cool surface.
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