Please HELP! My kitten has a strange skin problem.

How about the Royal Canin Instinctive Kitten in what looks like a pouch - is that wet or dry? http://www.futurebazaar.com/royal-canin-instinctive-kitten-102kg/pd/115928/?ref=category The picture makes it look like wet food, but the weight indication of 1.02 kg. is confusing. It would be a good choice if it's wet.The Kitten 36 is definitely dry. http://www.futurebazaar.com/royal-canin-kitten-36-2kg/pd/115927/?ref=mlt Iams, like RC, is a step above Whiskas, but wet food is definitely preferable to all dry.

The Taste of the Wild dry for all ages would be better than Whiskas, Iams or Royal Canin dry food: http://www.dogspot.in/shop/taste-wild-river-canyon-feline-cat-food-7kg/ because it's grain-free. It's a shame they only offer the fish variety and that it's so expensive; the recommended quantity to feed per meal is lower than for the other brands, though, but 7 kg. is a lot to order when you don't know whether he'll like it.

jcat said:

How about the Royal Canin Instinctive Kitten in what looks like a pouch - is that wet or dry? http://www.futurebazaar.com/royal-canin-instinctive-kitten-102kg/pd/115928/?ref=category The picture makes it look like wet food, but the weight indication of 1.02 kg. is confusing. It would be a good choice if it's wet.The Kitten 36 is definitely dry. http://www.futurebazaar.com/royal-canin-kitten-36-2kg/pd/115927/?ref=mlt Iams, like RC, is a step above Whiskas, but wet food is definitely preferable to all dry.
The Taste of the Wild dry for all ages would be better than Whiskas, Iams or Royal Canin dry food: http://www.dogspot.in/shop/taste-wild-river-canyon-feline-cat-food-7kg/ because it's grain-free. It's a shame they only offer the fish variety and that it's so expensive; the recommended quantity to feed per meal is lower than for the other brands, though, but 7 kg. is a lot to order when you don't know whether he'll like it.

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I think that it is 1.02 Kg because it will include 10 pouches wet food each of 90 grams weight.
I think that instead of buying the expensive Taste of the Wild, I can easily buy a good Wet food by IAMS or RC and supplement it with raw diet. 
Because I am really not sure of the packaged dry stuff . Its an Asian version of what you get there.
I presume that raw food might be better than dry food atleast. GOD!! confusing!! 

It is, isn't it? I'd probably also go with a decent wet food for kittens like the Royal Canin Instinctive Kitten and IAMs then, since you won't have to worry about it being balanced, and supplement it with whatever you feel comfortable with.

jcat said:

It is, isn't it? I'd probably also go with a decent wet food for kittens like the Royal Canin Instinctive Kitten and IAMs then, since you won't have to worry about it being balanced, and supplement it with whatever you feel comfortable with.

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I totally agree

Glad you got the salmon oil! Of course it is worth it! And yes.... A balanced raw diet is a wonderfu diet :bigthumb:
Feel free to ask any questions.... You can also pm me anytime, ok?

jcat said:

It is, isn't it? I'd probably also go with a decent wet food for kittens like the Royal Canin Instinctive Kitten and IAMs then, since you won't have to worry about it being balanced, and supplement it with whatever you feel comfortable with.

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jennyranson said:

I totally agree

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He has everything to balance a meal; his situation is a bit different but not THAT much. He is already feeding raw, but not balanced. Clearly, what he needs to learn is to is how balance the food. He wants to, and he asked how to balance the food. His wet food is not nearly as nutritious, and raw, can be easily balanced at home, if you get over the fear.
Raw can offer this baby great nutrition, while the canned he has in there won't get even close.
So no, there is no way for me to agree with this.

Carolina said:

He has everything to balance a meal; his situation is a bit different but not THAT much. He is already feeding raw, but not balanced. Clearly, what he needs to learn is to is how balance the food. He wants to, and he asked how to balance the food. His wet food is not nearly as nutritious, and raw, can be easily balanced at home, if you get over the fear.
Raw can offer this baby great nutrition, while the canned he has in there won't get even close.
So no, there is no way for me to agree with this.

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Just how familiar are you with the meat available in India? Are you an expert on food safety in the Punjab? How much do you know about this kitten's physical condition, e.g., whether it is immuno-compromised, has a weakened heart, or any other condition that might make raw risky? Do you expect the kitten's condition to remain stable while the member learns the ins and outs of feeding a balanced raw diet?

jcat said:

Just how familiar are you with the meat available in India? Are you an expert on food safety in the Punjab? How much do you know about this kitten's physical condition, e.g., whether it is immuno-compromised, has a weakened heart, or any other condition that might make raw risky? Do you expect the kitten's condition to remain stable while the member learns the ins and outs of feeding a balanced raw diet?

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Tricia, read my posts. These answers are in there. On the same token, do you think whiskas is the best diet for a malnourished kitten? I don't.
I don't think supplementing with a certain amount of chicken is good either. And yoghurt and milk, they don't provide enough calcium to balance that meat.
So while I have not seen the meat in person, I know what it takes to balance to make is better than whiskas, and I also know that by immersing the meat in boiling water for a a few seconds or baking in the oven for a few minutes will take care of the bacterial load. I said that, read my posts.
I agree to feed canned, the best possible, while he learns the ins and outs of raw, absolutely.... And while he gets all the ingredients AND organs together. Raw needs to be done properly or you better do it do it at all. But I really do believe he can get more nourishment from it than from than what he has there. My 2 cents.

Carolina said:

He has everything to balance a meal; his situation is a bit different but not THAT much. He is already feeding raw, but not balanced. Clearly, what he needs to learn is to is how balance the food. He wants to, and he asked how to balance the food. His wet food is not nearly as nutritious, and raw, can be easily balanced at home, if you get over the fear.
Raw can offer this baby great nutrition, while the canned he has in there won't get even close.
So no, there is no way for me to agree with this.

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Yeah . You are right. I wish we had something like Wellness or Blue Buffalo here. But everything we get here is made in China. that stuff really cant be trusted.

Carolina said:

Tricia, read my posts. These answers are in there. On the same token, do you think whiskers is the best diet for a malnourished kitten? I don't.
I don't think supplementing with a certain amount of chicken is good either. And yoghurt and milk, they don't provide enough calcium to balance that meat.
So while I have not seen the meat in person, I know what it takes to balance to make is better than whiskas, and I also know that by immersing the meat in boiling water for a a few seconds or baking in the oven for a few minutes will take care of the bacterial load. I said, read my posts.
I agree to feed canned, the best possible, while he learns the ins and outs of raw, absolutely.... And while he gets all the ingredients AND organs together. Raw needs to be done properly or you better do it do it at all. But I really di believe he can get more nourishment from it than from than what he has there. My 2 cents.

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If you had read through all the replies, you'd see that we've ascertained that a wet food that is better than Whiskas is available and recommended that he try that. This kitten is not in good shape and needs balanced food right now. This is neither the time nor the place to argue the merits of raw feeding. Deep can go through the threads in the Raw forum and ask questions there when he has the time.

What I can say is that India is still a developing country . Everything we get here is devoid of any chemicals and is more organic than the other places around the world. The meat that I bought was from the chicken the guy had shown me. The meat is fresh and still warm while we buy it.  If the parasites are residing within the chicken, then I am not sure ....

It's the parasites that are of concern. Something that a healthy adult cat can eat with no trouble at all could sicken a weakened kitten. I still think it's advisable to get the best commercial wet food you can right now to use as his main source of nourishment for the time being and worry about whether you want to feed mainly a raw, home-cooked or commercial diet later. This site has both a Nutrition forum and a Raw Feeding forum, both with lots of information, so that you can make an informed decision later.

dpkml said:

What I can say is that India is still a developing country . Everything we get here is devoid of any chemicals and is more organic than the other places around the world. The meat that I bought was from the chicken the guy had shown me. The meat is fresh and still warm while we buy it.  If the parasites are residing within the chicken, then I am not sure ....

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excellent Deep. Just so you know, the bacterial load of concern would be on the surface of the meat. By quickly boiling it, you are taking care of it, if you are afraid of it.
Parasites are found in the guts of the animal, which are removed prior to selling, so you don't really need to be concerned about that.....
If you have better canned foods, do feed him that while you learn more about raw.
We can teach you all about it in the raw forum. You will do well, I am sure.... But take your time, don't hurry into it....

Carolina said:

excellent Deep. Just so you know, the bacterial load of concern would be on the surface of the meat. By quickly boiling it, you are taking care of it, if you are afraid of it.
Parasites are found in the guts of the animal, which are removed prior to selling, so you don't really need to be concerned about that.....
If you have better canned foods, do feed him that while you learn more about raw.
We can teach you all about it in the raw forum. You will do well, I am sure.... But take your time, don't hurry into it....

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I will read and learn as much I can. Trying really hard. Besides one major concern is the language. I dont know how to tell the meat shop guy the Punjabi translation of Spleen or Pancreas. 
Can you please tell me the quantity  and frequency of giving him the  salmon oil?

jcat said:

It's the parasites that are of concern. Something that a healthy adult cat can eat with no trouble at all could sicken a weakened kitten. I still think it's advisable to get the best commercial wet food you can right now to use as his main source of nourishment for the time being and worry about whether you want to feed mainly a raw, home-cooked or commercial diet later. This site has both a Nutrition forum and a Raw Feeding forum, both with lots of information, so that you can make an informed decision later.

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I have a lot to learn .Thank you so much for guiding me. Will read both of these forums and try to gather the knowledge. Need to make Shadow healthy and happy. 

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I will read and learn as much I can. Trying really hard. Besides one major concern is the language. I dont know how to tell the meat shop guy the Punjabi translation of Spleen or Pancreas. 

Can you please tell me the quantity  and frequency of giving him the  salmon oil?

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It depends on the qty of EPA and DHA - can you post the label ingredients in here for us to see?
Does he sell kidney in there? Liver? Chicken organs? Goat organs?

Carolina said:

It depends on the qty of EPA and DHA - can you post the label ingredients in here for us to see?
Does he sell kidney in there? Liver? Chicken organs? Goat organs?

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Ingredients: 100% Salmon Oil 

Nutritional Analysis: EPA 6.31%, DHA 10.23%, N-3 26.74%, N-6 9.46%, N-9 6.23% 

I got the liver and Gizzard parts of the chicken.  Will go to a better meat shop tomorrow and find out if he has the rest of the things

dpkml said:

Ingredients: 100% Salmon Oil 



Nutritional Analysis: EPA 6.31%, DHA 10.23%, N-3 26.74%, N-6 9.46%, N-9 6.23% 



I got the liver and Gizzard parts of the chicken.  Will go to a better meat shop tomorrow and find out if he has the rest of the things

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How many mg in the Salmon oil? Ohhhhh excellent! it is pure Salmon oil!
Gizzards are considered muscle, just like the meat part of the chicken..... The liver is GREAT!! If you don't find the other organ, you are doing great with the liver already :bigthumb:

Carolina said:

How many mg in the Salmon oil? Ohhhhh excellent! it is pure Salmon oil!

Gizzards are considered muscle, just like the meat part of the chicken..... The liver is GREAT!! If you don't find the other organ, you are doing great with the liver already

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No other detail is mentioned . This is the same product 

 

Deep, I do agree with jcat that for the moment you are better giving the kitten the best wet food you can (Royal Canin) and supplementing with occasional chicken. I hope you will not be offended when I tell you I have been in India and I know the difficulties of getting parasite-free healthy meat. Your kitten is already ill - do not endanger him further by giving him possibly infected food in the chase for the ideal diet. And do not give him organs - they will almost certainly contain worms that could kill him. I know it is confusing for you that we on this site are saying different things, and you must make your own mind up, but some of us know from experience what you are going through, and what may be the best choice in a place like Texas is not the best where you are. Many many kittens have been raised successfully over the years on foods that we now regard as less than perfect, but they are better than food that may be infected with bacteria, worms or worse, and have to be supplemented carefully because they do not provide a full balanced diet. Carolina will agree that even in the West it takes time and money and a lot of education to provide a healthy cat with a fully raw diet. Right now your kitten needs safe food, and as much of it as possible. I would go with canned/pouched wet food of a brand that at least has an international company behind it. Do not risk his life for an ideal when alternatives are available.