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post #1 of 126
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If the election were held tomorrow, would you vote to re-elect President Bush?

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post #2 of 126
Nope. Can't stand him. We need someone with a higher IQ than 2.

I think he did good when September 11th happened, he handled that well. But what is with, "Lets find Osama." "Okay, we can't find him, here, lets focus on Saddam".

Don't like him, didn't vote for him in the first place, want him out of office.
post #3 of 126
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If you think he handled 9/11 well, take a look at this site....

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/true911.html
post #4 of 126
I'm an undecided.

The tough part is that he WILL be nominated by the Republican party. The Democrats, especially Howard Dean, are pretty scary to me. Voting for a third party candidate at this point in time is throwing your vote away.

So what are the choices? The known or the unknown incompetence?
post #5 of 126
There is not a single thing I like about this man. But, I am even more put off by the people in his administration - especially Ashcroft and Rumsfelt (sp?). Colin Powel is just about the only person I respect, but he is getting booted out at the end of the year.

I disagree with Bush's fiscal policies, social policies, and especially his international policies.

Oh...I said that I didn't like anything about Bush. I lied! I do like that he looks like a grown-up version of Dewey from Malcom in the Middle. Every time I see the pres I laugh because I am seeing Dewey in all of Bush's expressions! Has anyone else ever noticed how similar they look?
post #6 of 126
Heidi, you ask an important question. I have been frustrated because the media speaks only about Dean. There are so many others planning to run against Bush, but we never hear about them.

I have an interesting personal aside to share about all of this. My father has always been a die-hard conservative. However, he is so distressed by the behavior, decisions, and policies of the current administration that he joined the Democratic National Committee! My dad is now an "e-captain" of his own democratic "e-district." He gathers and sends out information about the gov't and about issues and events of concern. I think it says a heck of a lot that someone who has always been strongly against anyone in the democratic party is now activly involved in the democratic party with the sole purpose of getting Bush out of office. By the way....so far, my dad likes Kucinich best.
post #7 of 126
I absolutely can't stand him, I didn't vote for him, and

***I got so upset I couldn't even finish this post***
post #8 of 126
Thread Starter 
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Originally posted by lotsocats
But, I am even more put off by the people in his administration - especially Ashcroft and Rumsfelt (sp?).
In the 2000 Missouri senatorial election, the incumbent, Ashcroft, was defeated by a dead man. How bad do you need to be to be defeated by a dead man? I'm proud to say that I cast my vote against the man. But wait......he's so bad that Bush made him attorney general.....what's wrong with that picture?

There is a republican group that is now supporting Dean. Imagine that!
post #9 of 126
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Originally posted by lotsocats
There is not a single thing I like about this man. But, I am even more put off by the people in his administration - especially Ashcroft and Rumsfelt (sp?). Colin Powel is just about the only person I respect, but he is getting booted out at the end of the year.
I did not vote for Bush in the last election (and for good or bad, I still believe Gore won the Presidency). But I agree with lotsocats, it's the people in Bush's cabinet that I dislike and fear much more. Powell has my respect, and I'm sad to see him go because I think he has been one of the few moderating voices in Bush's cabinet. I believe that Ashcroft and Rumsfeld are working on their own very very very conservative agenda, and the public opinion be damned. I can't remember which, but one said (paraphrasing) that if you don't support Bush's request for more money to fight the war in Iraq, you are supporting and abetting the terrorists. This isn't policy, this is scare tactics. And I don't want my country to be run by fright and war mongers.
post #10 of 126
I don't like Bush, didn't vote for him last time and won't in the next election. But I think what we're saying is true; it's not so much him as those who pull his strings that we have to fear.

$87 billion for the war on Iraq, when our economy is in such a sad state? Come on!
post #11 of 126
Did not vote for him this time around - won't do it next time.
post #12 of 126
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Originally posted by Momofmany
If you think he handled 9/11 well, take a look at this site....

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/true911.html
I just watched their little presentation. I have to say, that is sensationalism and conjecture at it's finest! What, because someone asks a vague question, "Do you know what's going on in New York?" and he replies that he does, that "proves" something? Had the question been - Did you know that a plane has crashed into the WTC? - THEN I could see their point. You know, the CIA, Secret Service, etc. cannot just conjecture that it's a terrorist plot, and have the President shoot down passenger aircraft at will. It has to be verified. The first plane that hit the tower, by all accounts everyone thought it could be a horrible accident. We all hoped it was a terrible accident. There are specific procedures to be followed. And what if the first plane had been an accident, and he scrambled the aircraft and shot down 3 more planes that had nothing to do with the first crash? What kind of nightmare would that have been? Hindsight is always 20/20, but I still think that Bush handled 9/11 as well as any President could.
post #13 of 126
Voted against him in the last election, and will vote against him in the next!

I really wish that voting for a third-party candidate wasn't such a joke, because to me both of the major parties seem to be working more for their own financial interests than for the best interests of our country, our environment, and its people.

My husband is a die-hard Republican, but he is very disappointed in the way the party has been taken over by its economic interests, and the way it handles many current issues, especially the environment.

I'm disgusted by the way that party has handled its critics, branding anyone that dares to disagree with its vision or criticize its actions as "unamerican", "unpatriotic" and a "traitor". IMO, suppression of dissenting opinions is just about as "unamerican" as you can get! This is a democracy, not a dictatorship, and they seem ready & willing to forget that until election time approaches.
post #14 of 126
Then let's nominate Robin Williams - he seems to be the only one with a plan. And I quote:


"Leave it to Robin Williams to come up with the perfect plan...
What we need now is for our UN Ambassador to stand up and repeat this message.

I see a lot of people yelling for peace but I have not heard of a plan for peace. So, here's one plan:

1. The US will apologize to the world for our "interference" in their affairs, past & present. You know, Hitler, Mussolini, Tojo, Noriega, Milosevic and the rest of those 'good ole boys.' We will never "interfere" again.

2. We will withdraw our troops from all over the world, starting with Germany, South Korea and the Philippines. They don't want us there. We would station troops at our borders. No one sneaking through holes in the fence.

3. All illegal aliens have 90 days to get their affairs together and leave. We'll give them a free trip home. After 90 days the remainder will be gathered up and deported immediately, regardless of who or where they are. France would welcome them.

4. All future visitors will be thoroughly checked and limited to 90 days unless given a special permit. No one from a terrorist nation would be allowed in. If you don't like it there, change it yourself and don't hide here. Asylum would never be available to anyone. We don't need any more cab drivers or 7-11 cashiers.

5. No "students" over age 21. The older ones are the bombers. If they don't attend classes, they get a "D" and it's back home baby.

6. The US will make a strong effort to become self-sufficient energy wise. This will include developing non-polluting sources of energy but will require a temporary drilling of oil in the Alaskan wilderness. The caribou will have to cope for a while.

7. Offer Saudi Arabia and other oil producing countries $10 a barrel for their oil. If they don't like it, we go some place else. They can go somewhere else to sell their production. (About a week of the wells filling up the storage sites would be enough.)


8. If there is a famine or other natural catastrophe in the world, we will not "interfere." They can pray to Allah or whomever, for seeds, rain, cement or whatever they need. Besides most of what we give them is stolen or given to the army. The people who need it most get very little, if anything.

9. Ship the UN Headquarters to an isolated island some place. We don't need the spies and fair weather friends here. Besides, the building would make a good homeless shelter or lockup for illegal aliens.

10. All Americans must go to charm and beauty school. That way, no one can call us "Ugly Americans" any longer.

Now, ain't that a winner of a plan? "The Statue of Liberty is no longer saying 'Give me your poor, your tired, your huddled masses.' She's got a baseball bat and she's yelling, 'You want a piece of me?'"

post #15 of 126
Helen,
that's an interesting quote but it wasn't Robin Williams that said it. http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/williams.asp

www.snopes.com and http://hoaxbusters.ciac.org/
are great sites to check facts in emails you receive
post #16 of 126
OK - I stand corrected .
post #17 of 126
Quote:
Originally posted by lotsocats
There is not a single thing I like about this man. But, I am even more put off by the people in his administration - especially Ashcroft and Rumsfelt (sp?). Colin Powel is just about the only person I respect, but he is getting booted out at the end of the year.

I disagree with Bush's fiscal policies, social policies, and especially his international policies.
I couldn't have said it better.
post #18 of 126
I didnt vote for any Bushes to date, and don't plan to vote for this one. I have no problem with a strong national defense, but I'm not certain that he's made the progress he should have in that regard. We needed to finish off Al Qaeda in the form of Bin Laden and his number 2 guy before doing anything else. (For all the talk of new recruits springing up constantly, it took $$ and brains and luck along with a lack of attention on our part to do what they did here, and that combination isn't often found in disenchanted 25 year olds.)
I do wonder what would have happened over the last year were Colin Powell not in the Cabinet: I have a feeling his presence alone probably stopped even rasher actions.

What disturbs me most though is the possibility of Bush appointing Supreme Court members, since half of them are on the verge of croaking at any moment. While appointees often turn out to be more responsible & middle of the road than they behaved before being appointed, that hasn't been the case with Antonio Scalia, and Clarence Thomas, who Bush believes are the 'best' judges on the court. A court with a few more judges like them will have far more lasting effects on the US than any president would have.
post #19 of 126
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Originally posted by Lucia
What disturbs me most though is the possibility of Bush appointing Supreme Court members, since half of them are on the verge of croaking at any moment. While appointees often turn out to be more responsible & middle of the road than they behaved before being appointed, that hasn't been the case with Antonio Scalia, and Clarence Thomas, who Bush believes are the 'best' judges on the court. A court with a few more judges like them will have far more lasting effects on the US than any president would have.
That, too!
post #20 of 126
(whispering) "No" (looking over my shoulders)
post #21 of 126
It's interesting that the results of this poll so far do not correspond to the national polls published by the media. Is there a correlation between cat ownership and disapproval of Bush (but why, since he is the guardian of both dogs and cats?), or are the other polls skewed, e.g., do they perhaps ask 2000 people in Texas what they think, and ignore states with a record of voting for the Democrats?
post #22 of 126
I think that Bush is the first president we have had that is a Corporate Interest President. Selling his soul to corporate interests and I would be interested to know if any of the companies over there building Iraq are in his back pocket? I have heard some are-

Here's an interesting theory- why not let Iraq sell their oil and use that money to rebuild their country? Then we can take the 67 billion dollars, and rebuild our country. Get the homeless off the street, feed the starving children, give our over-worked teachers and day care workers raises. Build new factories to promote American made products and cut off foreign spending!
post #23 of 126
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Originally posted by jcat
It's interesting that the results of this poll so far do not correspond to the national polls published by the media. Is there a correlation between cat ownership and disapproval of Bush (but why, since he is the guardian of both dogs and cats?), or are the other polls skewed, e.g., do they perhaps ask 2000 people in Texas what they think, and ignore states with a record of voting for the Democrats?
My husband and I pondered the same question last night. His national approval rating is in the 40% range, and is much lower in TCS. Perhaps animal lovers lean towards environmentalism, which typically makes us more liberal, which would push us away from Bush? My only theory thus far. I could be way off base here.
post #24 of 126
Maybe cat people are just smarter!
post #25 of 126
give my hubby a job would be nice. I'm a texan, no news people asked my opinion I agree Hissy
post #26 of 126
Or maybe we just are just wiser because we clean cat boxes out daily! I did vote for him last time, it will not be a mistake I will repeat.
post #27 of 126
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Originally posted by Momofmany
In the 2000 Missouri senatorial election, the incumbent, Ashcroft, was defeated by a dead man. How bad do you need to be to be defeated by a dead man? I'm proud to say that I cast my vote against the man.
I grew up in a primarily Republican state (Pennsylvania), family, circle of friends, and I know I've completely alienated some members here, like Sherral, but --- I can't help it - I simply think that I have a duty, as an American citizen, aunt, (but not parent, unfortunately) and patriot, to point out that there are problems with the current administration. I personally find flag waving and Bible belting offensive, but I always had faith in my opportunity, ability, right, what have you, to do so. Under Bush, et al., I question whether I can continue to do so. Is that what the Founding Fathers intended? Under the current administration (I am purposefully using lower case letters), such behavior is apparently subversive, un-American, etc. - my answer is ; I really don't give a damn, because I question some people's (Bush`s, Cheney`s, Rice`s, Rumsfeld`'s, Ashcroft`s) moral sense, duty and sense of responsibility. Are they our elected officials? If you can answer yes, reply to this question: Have they fulfilled their duties in an honest manner?
post #28 of 126
One thing that I find very interesting is that on many other issues that we have generally been a fairly conservative board. Of course, there are the more liberally minded here as well. I don't know, perhaps it depends on who sets the initial tone of the thread.
post #29 of 126
Yes, I voted for him last time, supported his campaign financially, and would vote for him again.

George
post #30 of 126
The reason the national polls are higher in favor of him is due to the fact that they are anonomous(sp?. Just like befroe bush was elected the polls were in favor of Gore. only by a few but still in favor of him. One of the things about us republicans we don't like to openly discuss these things. Yes some of us. Like me you local staunch republican. But, the majority of the republicans sit in the back row and listen and then when it comes to the big even step up and do what they feel is right.

all in all I think Bush is one of the best presidents that the US has had in a LONG TIME! and I will vote for him again. and do it proudly! He doesn't pussy foot around issues. he dives right in. stands up for what he belives our country needs. and in my eyes he has made all the right choices. I do know that he is doing what I want done for my country. and that is all the matters.


GOD BLESS AMERICA!
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