Update of Rhys, at almost 4 months.

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Love the smoke! Now I'm going to have to go look up his other pictures. Is he a Scottish Fold?
 
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Thanks :) 

Yes he's a Fold, but "only" a double Fold, so not a prime example of the breed. l think he's gorgeous 
 

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I don't know a lot about folds, but I'm wondering why you think he's not the best example of the breed. The CFA breed standard doesn't say anything about the number of folds, just that the ears should be folded forward.

EARS: fold forward and downward. Small, the smaller, tightly folded
ear preferred over a loose fold and large ear. The ears should be
set in a caplike fashion to expose a rounded cranium. Ear tips to be
rounded.
 
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They're supposed to look like they're wearing skullcaps, like the triple-folds.

l know that's what the breed has "evolved" to, but l'm not a fan of the look, l prefer

the doubles and singles, looks-wise.

Someone wrote this on a post when l said l was getting a kitten, the son

of a BSH and a double-fold SF:

Personally I would avoid breeding with a double fold, the kittens wouldn't get triple fold ears and that's how they really are supposed to be (in shows at least) and I think most of the 'unfolding' folds come from a breeding with a single or double fold cat. Unfortunately we have lots of BYBs here breeding folds, and their cats & kittens often have very weird semi-straight ears.

Which is a fair statement - breeding less that optimal cats will not further the breed.

But it's too bad that the cute(r) weird semi-straights should be bred out. l think they're

just beautiful, and there are no detrimental health/hearing effects that l know of having

a lesser folded  [color= rgb(24, 24, 24)]ear.[/color]
 

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Someone wrote this on a post when l said l was getting a kitten, the son

of a BSH and a double-fold SF:

Personally I would avoid breeding with a double fold, the kittens wouldn't get triple fold ears and that's how they really are supposed to be (in shows at least) and I think most of the 'unfolding' folds come from a breeding with a single or double fold cat. Unfortunately we have lots of BYBs here breeding folds, and their cats & kittens often have very weird semi-straight ears.

Which is a fair statement - breeding less that optimal cats will not further the breed.

But it's too bad that the cute(r) weird semi-straights should be bred out. l think they're

just beautiful, and there are no detrimental health/hearing effects that l know of having

a lesser folded  [color= rgb(24, 24, 24)]ear.[/color]
I believe that was me. 

Just to make it clear: Scottish Folds do not have any hearing/ear problems more than any other cat breed, and it has nothing to do with the amount of folding on the ears. I have a double folded (pet quality) Foldie and he's never had any ear issues even if his ears don't stand up like your cat's (who seems to be a single fold, not a double fold).

In my earlier statement, the one you quoted, my opinion of not breeding with a double fold to avoid single folds also has the point that single folds can often be falsely registered as straights, and if someone is going to breed with fold x straight, they may end up accidentally using 2 folds which obviously is not good. For example your kitty looks like he could be mistaken as a straight. I see so much BY-breeding in this breed that I've become quite strict with my opinions..

But he is obviously very cute and I like the color. My foldie's mother is also a black smoke.
 
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l agree completely with your statement about singles being bred as straights. Also, l've seen Scottish straights being sold as BSH!! l'm not sure if they are registered that way (l'd love to find out - maybe it's acceptable?), but the person advertising the BSHs was also selling their folded littermates as Scottish. And she is a registered breeder, according to the website anyway.

Yeah, good point on Rhys's ears, some days they look double, some days they look single. l do tend to make noises at him so he will perk them up when l take his picture as l like the look of them up more.

This is him when they're not pricked up:

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l saw your double Foldie in the previous post, she's just gorgeous. l love the non-capped ears. lf the breed has to go with the ever-shrinking ears, they should keep the looser guys as a distinct breed, or sub-breed as they did with the traditional and the modern Siamese.
 

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l agree completely with your statement about singles being bred as straights. Also, l've seen Scottish straights being sold as BSH!! l'm not sure if they are registered that way (l'd love to find out - maybe it's acceptable?), but the person advertising the BSHs was also selling their folded littermates as Scottish. And she is a registered breeder, according to the website anyway.

l saw your double Foldie in the previous post, she's just gorgeous. l love the non-capped ears. lf the breed has to go with the ever-shrinking ears, they should keep the looser guys as a distinct breed, or sub-breed as they did with the traditional and the modern Siamese.
I've seen them sold as BSHs too, specially in France, Belgium, Germany, Switzerland and Netherlands. It's not accepted by any large cat association to register them as such, but some small mid European independent registries really do that. They also register straight haired Selkirk Rexes as BSHs (to avoid too high inbreeding in new color, my BLH Luna actually has a Rex in her pedigree, I don't like it, but thought it's a 'lesser evil' than high inbreeding or having a foldie in her lines, she's from Germany).

Also many BYBs sell straights as Brits, that way they can ask more money from the kittens that would otherwise be sold as 'non-standard pet quality' (like it matters anyway if they're not registered..though we have people here who sell them with fake papers). I actually just ran into a BYB who asks 700€ for her non-registered fold ear kittens, and people are buying! She's just invented name's that would sound like they're pedigreed, she just didn't do her homework well (all kitts are 'von something' and you can't have the 'von' thing in your cattery name here). I didn't even get that much from my purebred registered BSH kittens.

My Foldie is a 'he'.
 
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