Feeding dried liver in place of fresh

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I was with another breeder this morning picking up our meat orders, both our cats readily eat chicken and beef liver but we know another breeder who's cats won't eat liver at all and reject any meat with liver in no matter how small an amount (she feeds meat chunks a few times a week rather than a whole raw diet at the moment)

Can dried liver treats -which are just liver, dried, sold usually for dogs be used in place of fresh liver? And if so what's the feeding ratio?

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I was with another breeder this morning picking up our meat orders, both our cats readily eat chicken and beef liver but we know another breeder who's cats won't eat liver at all and reject any meat with liver in no matter how small an amount (she feeds meat chunks a few times a week rather than a whole raw diet at the moment)


Can dried liver treats -which are just liver, dried, sold usually for dogs be used in place of fresh liver? And if so what's the feeding ratio?

Thanks
That's what I do, actually..... for different reasons:
The only one who liked, was Bugsy.
Hope :barf:, Lucky HATED it :dash:

So I gave up, really :hide:
Hope eats her food balanced with Call of the Wild (which, by the way, contains freeze dried liver....... and that's how it allows it to balance muscle meat to 100% complete and balanced ;) )
Bugsy and Lucky just get one little treat of liver a day - I use Etta Says - they love it, and it has been working very well for us :bigthumb:
 
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We don't have call of the wild over here and cannot import it. Also don't have that brand of liver treats. The dog treats, which the only ingredient is liver, are dried strips broken into random pieces of various sizes so it would really need to be weighed if using I suppose. 
 
 

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We don't have call of the wild over here and cannot import it. Also don't have that brand of liver treats. The dog treats, which the only ingredient is liver, are dried strips broken into random pieces of various sizes so it would really need to be weighed if using I suppose. 

 
That's even better, I think... here is why:
You can re-hydrate those, and weight the pieces after hydrating them. Get an average piece in size, so you know how much approximately that will mean if it was regular, fresh liver.

Then just feed the equivalent - 5% of the diet :nod:
It might be just a 1/3 piece a day.... Don't go by dry weight though, of course, as the percentage considers the moisture on the muscle meat.
That is impossible to do with Etta Says and WL Liver Treats, as they are not dried strips - while they are 100% liver and nothing else, they are little shapped squares of it. So I just feed one small treat a day
- they are cat and dog treats.
Mine don't like the training liver treats (like you are describing there), but if they do, I see no reason not to feed.....
 
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Thanks will pass that info on
 

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If you want to know how much of a freeze dried product equals a given amount of the wet product you can use this:

(wet solids % / freeze dried solids %)  * wet amount = freeze dried amount

So, if we have a freeze dried liver product that is 5% moisture and we want to know how much that that product would be the equivalent to 1 lb of  non-dried liver that has a moisture content of 75%:

(25% / 95% )  * 16 oz = 4.2 oz

So 4,2 oz of the freeze dried chicken liver equals 16 oz of non-dried liver.

You can find the moisture content of various raw foods in the USDA online database:

http://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/list
 
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