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post #31 of 54
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Originally Posted by OrientalSlave View Post

Like I said, your kittens will get your trained pretty soon.  Have you come across the saying that dogs have owners and cats have slaves?  There's a lot of truth in it.  There is also the comment about 'herding cats':

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herding_cats

 

But they can be trained to a degree (not as much as you can!), and also the biting and scratching tends to die down anyway as they mature.  Mine two older ones will often come when I call them (not if they think a trip in the car is in the offing),  but they have me letting them out in the garden several times a day - the cat flap is shut at present because of the two kittens.  BTW they can't escape the garden.

 

Personally I like an easy life, and waiting hand and foot on my cats is mostly easier than trying to train the unwilling.


That's funny I've never heard that before. I do think I prefer "staff", in the quote although the former is the more accurate statement. I don't remember the last person who came in my room and woke me up early on a Sunday morning and lived to tell about it. My cat's do it without fear of reprisal smile.gif

As far as Leo scratching & biting, I figured it would get better as he got older.
My fear is: What if it doesn't, and he's clearly set in his ways by then? Saying No! and then putting him down did nothing. The hissing and growling is working nicely. He's even being nicer to Oksana. That wasn't even my intention. I'm only having to do it once or twice per day now as well. He's a much easier cat now.
post #32 of 54

Both are quite common - cats having staff, cats having slaves.  If you type 'cats have s' into Google staff comes top of the list that pops up, followed by slaves.

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Ok, I'll feed him when he asks, but I'm changing his name to "Bottomless Pit" like someone else already mentioned:)

 

We call our 5 month-old boy "the Mouth with feet and a tail".  He's had a major growth spurt and has put on 2 pounds in the past month.  He can't get enough food lately, and there have been days this past month that he's eaten three 5.5 oz cans BY HIMSELF.  Hopefully he won't be a 'teenager' much longer.

post #34 of 54
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My boy is a "3 canner himself" biggrin.gif
I keep thinking he's going to get too fat, but he's turning it all into "man cat".
post #35 of 54

I feed my kitten three times a day with wet with Bone meal and cat vitamins with taurine mixed in it.

post #36 of 54
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I feed my kitten three times a day with wet with Bone meal and cat vitamins with taurine mixed in it.
Is there any reason you add bone meal to a balanced wet food? I know that in large dogs, excess calcium can cause serious growth problems. . .maybe it's not so bad in cats, idk. I suppose a multi-vitamin and taurine won't hurt (although commercial foods already have vitamins and taurine added) but I do encourage you to look into the possible problems that an improper amount of calcium can cause. Commercial foods have all the calcium a kitten needs (even "adult" foods). I know that adding vitamins and minerals seems like a good thing but oversupplementation can be worse than undersupplementation sometimes. This might be a good thing to ask your vet about.
post #37 of 54

Bone meal actually is bad because it comes from 4-D animals. If you need to add calcium, which is only necessary if you are making the food yourself, eggshells are a safer option.

post #38 of 54

I figure the percentage of bone meal in the cats food isn't enough for a kitten.

I too have a muti vitamins with  taurine in it for the same reason. It is to make his brain grow, I tell him.

The bone meal is to make his bones grow. Hopefully he is getting enough protein for his mussels. I want a big musselily cat.

There isn't enough kitten food to help a growing cat. They do so much just over night. They have to have extra.

Don't you think?

post #39 of 54

What makes you think there isn't enough calcium in the food?  How muscular he ends up is down mostly to genetics and exercise, not diet.

post #40 of 54
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Originally Posted by MeuzettesMom View Post

I figure the percentage of bone meal in the cats food isn't enough for a kitten.

I too have a muti vitamins with  taurine in it for the same reason. It is to make his brain grow, I tell him.

The bone meal is to make his bones grow. Hopefully he is getting enough protein for his mussels. I want a big musselily cat.

There isn't enough kitten food to help a growing cat. They do so much just over night. They have to have extra.

Don't you think?

 

I VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY strongly urge you to not add supplements to a kittens diet with the guidance of a vet. You can do permanent damage to a growing kittens body with over supplementation. Giving too much calcium is just as bad as not giving enough.

 

If you are feeding a food labelled as being for kittens it has been formulated to provide the added nutrients, including calcium, needed by a growing kitten. There is no need for you to add more.

post #41 of 54
You can give him a bit of meat for extra protein smile.gif. But it's best not to mess with the calcium content; that can make a real problem for his bones/joints. I promise that commercial food has plenty of calcium, even for a growing boy biggrin.gif. A small multivitamin, while unnecessary, may not hurt but I do think you should talk to the vet about it. Commercial food has so many vitamins added that adding more can just throw the whole balance off.
post #42 of 54

The muti vitamin is Fel-O- Taurine.  The bone meal is just sprinkled too he doesn't even get a teaspoon a day. I can save the bone meal for my plants. Thanks

post #43 of 54
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The muti vitamin is Fel-O- Taurine.  The bone meal is just sprinkled too he doesn't even get a teaspoon a day. I can save the bone meal for my plants. Thanks

Please tell me you've been giving him human grade bone meal and not gardening bone meal.

post #44 of 54
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Please tell me you've been giving him human grade bone meal and not gardening bone meal.

Oh yes. I have given him human grade. I thought it was cat grade when I ordered it.

I upped the nutrition when it became apparent that cat food wasn't up to par. Especially for kittens. They grow so much.

post #45 of 54
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And exactly how did this become apparent? I'm not trying to get smart, I'm just trying to understand.
post #46 of 54
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Originally Posted by EmilyMayWilcha View Post

Actually the statement is, "Dogs have owners, cats have staff." I see it everywhere.

 

Some people say cats are not spoiled; they train us.

 

hahaha, that's funny.. and yes i would agree to that. lol

 

I think i will go broke feeding kittens haha.. but it's all worth it.

post #47 of 54
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Bone meal actually is bad because it comes from 4-D animals. If you need to add calcium, which is only necessary if you are making the food yourself, eggshells are a safer option.
Not all bone meals come from 4D animals - human grade doesn't.

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Originally Posted by MeuzettesMom View Post

The muti vitamin is Fel-O- Taurine.  The bone meal is just sprinkled too he doesn't even get a teaspoon a day. I can save the bone meal for my plants. Thanks
I wouldn't be adding any, unless you are balancing raw.
1 tsp of bone meal is a lot.... If I were you, if this was my kitten, I would stop this asap.... just my 2cents FWIW wavey.gif
post #48 of 54

We are new cat staff.  I feed our almost 6 month old 3x a day sometimes four and am wondering if I should be feeding him more.  I currently give him a 1/4 cup of kitten chow and Iams kitten mixed and about 1/3rd of a container of Meow Mix tender favorites. I pour the wet over the dry which encourages him to eat some of the dry food.   He really isn't a fan of dry food.  So his total food for the day is 3/4 dry and one container of 'wet'  It's really chunks of meat or fish w/sauce or gravy. We also feed some meat (if kitty friendly) at dinner to appease his curiosity.  Yes we are careful re onions and garlic and have actually cooked small portions w/o spices for him to be safe.  If I put more of the wet food he doesn't always finish all of it and he doesn't eat all the dry in the dish.

 

He looks big enough, definately growing.  But do I give him more food as he gets bigger?  He was about 2 lbs in June and about 5lbs in July - not sure how much he weighs now.  

post #49 of 54
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@HandsomeKitty If he likes wet food and you can afford it, most here at TCS recommend an all wet diet. Pate' style food tends to be healthier as it's devoid of wheat gluten most of the time.

A lot of cat employees here feed a raw diet of fresh ground meat, bone, and organs. Their are many threads with regard to this, but imho if you can afford it, it's the most healthy.

With regards to dry food the brands you mentioned are loaded with corn and meat byproduct meal. This is junk, and not good for your cat. Their are better dry foods that are grain free, but for the most part wet is much, much healthier.

On a side note this thread is almost 2 years old. You'll get more responses if you start a new one, or add to one that's still active.
post #50 of 54
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I forgot to mention kittens eat like crazy. It's normal as long as he's been wormed.

If eats a quality food, he will eat less as well. A fine example to consider is how junk food doesn't fill you up. You get hungry again quickly, as well.
post #51 of 54

Thanks,  I'll talk it over w/ my daughter.  The cat is hers. The meow mix tenders looks like chunks of meat so I prefer it over the smelly cannned food so I should probably offer more if I take out the dry - most of which get tossed anyway.

post #52 of 54
The most important thing with any food is to look at the ingredients. You want a named meat source as the first few ingredients (chicken, turkey, beef...) Stay away from corn, wheat, soy and glutens. If your kitty can tolerate it, I think some rice ok.

Check out Sheba. It's a lower priced food with decent ingredients. I like Nulo, Nature's Variety, Holistic Select and Natural Balance pouches.
post #53 of 54
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Check out Sheba. It's a lower priced food with decent ingredients. I like Nulo, Nature's Variety, Holistic Select and Natural Balance pouches.

If you have a Big Lots nearby, they sell Sheba 3 oz cans for .50 cents. I believe the same cans were .89 cents (possibly on sale) at the local big box pet store.

post #54 of 54

Thx.  Planning on starting the switch next week.

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